Thanks Julie, nice to have an LDS expert on hand :-) Never knowingly having been within 100 mls of an LDS centre I tend to overlook the LDS's BTs filming, especially when the online IGI has already been inspected. Perhaps the real mistake is to think they are one and the same. Gareth List administrator for DYFED, CGN & PEM Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Preston" <juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net> To: <WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [WLS-CGN] Interest: ISAAC/JONES/EVANS Elsie, Gareth is correct, although you needn't hire a researcher to look through the original parish registers as the LDS have microfilmed the Bishop's Transcripts for the parish of Llanwenog, Cardiganshire, and you can order the microfilm from the nearest LDS Family History Center. I'm certain there's one in your area. It sounds as though you've only checked the IGI, thus far, in addition to the census returns which clearly indicate he was born in Llanwenog. From Thomas' 2nd marriage to Mary Watkins, you now have the very excellent 'clue' as his father's name was listed as Isaac EVANS, clearly showing the use of patronymics in this family. When viewing the Bishop's Transcripts, look for any/all baptisms to a father named Isaac EVANS, but also look for all children baptised to anyone with the forename Isaac, as the surname may not have been 'fixed'. Hopefully, you will begin to develop a family group and perhaps at least one child's baptism entry might indicate the dwelling (cottage/farm) name, which will be an added identifier for the family. The earlier marriage in Swansea will only show witnesses -- these are, very often, one relative (relationship not stated) and the other person was usually a parish clerk. One doesn't send to the GRO for a marriage "certificate" for pre-1837 marriages. You will find this marriage entry on the microfilm of the BT's for St. Mary's, Swansea, also available from the LDS. Regards, Julie Preston juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elsie Isaac" <elisaac@msn.com> To: <WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [WLS-CGN] Interest: ISAAC/JONES/EVANS > Happy New Year Gareth and List! > > Thank you Gareth for your response and encouragement in sorting out this > messy Isaac/Evans family. > I believe I will send to the GRO for the St. Mary's marriage record for > Thomas ISAAC and Ann JONES. This may give me some more clues as the record > states there were witnesses and personal information. > > Does anyone have any suggestions for a reliable researcher I can go through > to look at the records of Llanwenog Parish? If so, please contact me off > list. I would greatly appreciate it. > > Elsie L Isaac > Bethlehem, PA USA > > Proud to be working on the FreeCen Project!!!! > Let's get the UK Census online to view for Free! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Working moms: Find helpful tips here on managing kids, home, work - and > yourself. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/workingmom.armx > > > ==== WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Ceredigion Archives > email archives@ceredigion.gov.uk > ==== WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE Mailing List ==== Ceredigion Archives email archives@ceredigion.gov.uk