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    1. [WLS-CGN] land in Cilcennin?
    2. Anna Brown
    3. Can anyone suggest where/how I could locate this land and its owners - described in vague terms in this excerpt from the transcribed will of Jenkin DAVIES(aka DAVIS or DAVID); he died in Lancaster County Pennsylvania in 1747: Item I give and bequeath unto my well beloved wife Mary DAVIES a certain messuage or tenement of land, which I have held and possessed in my native land in the Parish of Kilkomin {Cilcennin?) in the County of Curdigun {?Cardigan?} South Wales, and also two acres of land lying in Lansanford in Morva [Esob] in the said County to have and to hold unto her during her natural life and after her death to decend to my son Evan to be held by him during his natural life, and after his death to decend to my son Zacheus to {be} held by him during his natural life, and after the death of my son Zacheus the said land to decend to my grandson David a child of my son Evan to be held by him and his heirs forever, but if the said David dies without issue the said land to decend to my grandson Isaac the eldest son of my son Evan to be held by him and his heirs forever, and if both my grandchildren David and Isaac aforesaid both die without issue, my will is that twenty pounds current money of this province be paid to each of the above daughters of my son Evan out of the rents of the said lands within ten years after the death of my said grandchildren David and Isaac aforesaid by the then possessor of the said land. also my will is that after the death of the said David and Isaac without issue the said land to decend to the eldest male issue of my son John to be held by him and his heirs forever. but in case my son dies having no sons, the said land shall decend to my grandson Jenkin a child of my son Zacheus to be held by him and his heirs forever,. but if the said Jenkin dies leaving no issue the said land to decend to my grandson Thomas another child of my son Zacheus to be held by him and his heirs forever willing that the said land be not sold forever out of my blood, I do by this my last will and testament Anna

    01/05/2004 01:20:45
    1. Re: [WLS-CGN] land in Cilcennin?
    2. John Ball
    3. Anna Brown <elijahf1@earthlink.net> wrote: Can anyone suggest where/how I could locate this land and its owners - described in vague terms in this excerpt from the transcribed will of Jenkin DAVIES(aka DAVIS or DAVID); he died in Lancaster County Pennsylvania in 1747.... (see extracts below) ==================== Dear Anna, I've extracted the specific references from the will, below: 1. "Parish of Kilkomin in the County of Curdigun South Wales" I agree with you that the most likely interpretation is Cilcennin, Cardigan(shire). According to Tallis's Topographical Dictionary, the area of Cilcennin parish was 3405 acres (circa 1850). 2. "Lansanford in Morva [Esob] in the said County" This is probably a reference to Morfa in the parish of Llansanffraid. There are farms called Morfa Mawr and Morfa Uchaf located about 1 mile south of the village of Llansanffraid. The approximate grid reference is 250400,265800 Go to the Old Maps website at http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ On the opening page select the "Co-ordinates" option in the search facility (near top left of the page). In the search field enter the co-ordinates 250400,265800 (without any spaces) and click the Search button. When the small map appears, click on the "Enlarged view" button below the map. A highly detailed large map of the area will open in a new window, centred roughly between Morfa Uchaf and Morfa Mawr farms. You can save the enlarged view map to your hard disc by clicking on the map with your right mouse button and selecting the "Save Picture As..." option in the menu which appears. Morfa Mawr was described as a 450-acre farm in the 1881 census record, and is identified by name on the modern 1:50,000-scale Ordnance Survey Landranger map (sheet 135). Morfa Mawr *and* Morfa Uchaf are shown on the modern 1:25,000-scale Ordnance Survey Explorer map (sheet 198). The 1881 census has seven entries for Morfa Uchaf, two of which are described as uninhabited and the others occupied by farm labourers and their families. The southern border of Llansanffraid parish is less than 2 miles north of the northern border of Cilcennin parish. They are separated from each other by the parish of Llanbadarn Trefeglwys. Kind regards, John ---------------------------- John Ball, Ystalyfera, South Wales, UK E-mail: wfha@clara.co.uk Homepage: http://home.clara.net/wfha/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.557 / Virus Database: 349 - Release Date: 30/12/2003

    01/06/2004 01:26:09
    1. Re: [WLS-CGN] land in Cilcennin?
    2. Gareth
    3. Hi Anna There are several references to places called Morva within Genuki, some in CGN. Go to any Genuki page, click on Contents (top of page) and use the Genuki Search engine. No hits for Lansanford or Esob. In fact I wonder if Lansanford is actually Llansanffraid ? Only two parishes away from Cilcennin. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CGN/Llansanffraid/ If this doesn't help and no one else onlist comes up with any inspiration I suggest you run this passed Ceredigion Archives, they are very helpful. Contact address on my Help Page, link below, then under Archives Gareth List administrator for DYFED, CGN & PEM Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anna Brown" <elijahf1@earthlink.net> To: <WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:20 AM Subject: [WLS-CGN] land in Cilcennin? > Can anyone suggest where/how I could locate this land and its owners - > described in vague terms in this excerpt from the transcribed will of > Jenkin DAVIES(aka DAVIS or DAVID); he died in Lancaster County Pennsylvania > in 1747: > > Item I give and bequeath unto my well beloved wife Mary DAVIES a certain > messuage or tenement of land, which I have held and possessed in my native > land in the Parish of Kilkomin {Cilcennin?) in the County of Curdigun > {?Cardigan?} South Wales, and also two acres of land lying in Lansanford in > Morva [Esob] in the said County to have and to hold unto her during her > natural life and after her death to decend to my son Evan to be held by him > during his natural life, and after his death to decend to my son Zacheus to > {be} held by him during his natural life, and after the death of my son > Zacheus the said land to decend to my grandson David a child of my son Evan > to be held by him and his heirs forever, but if the said David dies without > issue the said land to decend to my grandson Isaac the eldest son of my son > Evan to be held by him and his heirs forever, and if both my grandchildren > David and Isaac aforesaid both die without issue, my will is that twenty > pounds current money of this province be paid to each of the above > daughters of my son Evan out of the rents of the said lands within ten > years after the death of my said grandchildren David and Isaac aforesaid by > the then possessor of the said land. also my will is that after the death > of the said David and Isaac without issue the said land to decend to the > eldest male issue of my son John to be held by him and his heirs forever. > but in case my son dies having no sons, the said land shall decend to my > grandson Jenkin a child of my son Zacheus to be held by him and his heirs > forever,. but if the said Jenkin dies leaving no issue the said land to > decend to my grandson Thomas another child of my son Zacheus to be held by > him and his heirs forever willing that the said land be not sold forever > out of my blood, I do by this my last will and testament > > > Anna > > > > > ==== WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE Mailing List ==== > National Library of Wales > http://www.llgc.org.uk/ > >

    01/06/2004 04:51:48