Hi: I mentioned previously that the BT's of Wales were in the PRO in London. That, I know, is incorrect. Thery are in the NLW. For some stupid reason I got it mixed up with the censuses which are indeed in the PRO. And the Nonconformist records wouldn't be anywhere near the Church of England records. As for the Mormons not being able to film the PR's of Wales - they were in the NLW (years ago) filming those records, when they were told to stop. They were not allowed to continue because of their religion. They have tried for years to film those records and have always been turned down for the same reason. Fortunately, for researchers, some family history societies are extracting the PR's and are selling them to researchers, family history centers and libraries. As for Blaenpennal nonconformists - I have many nonconformist families - Baptism, Unitarians, Calvinist Methodists, Wesleyan Methodist, Independents. When I do research in any part of Wales (prior to 1 July 1837), I would first look at the Church of England BT or PR for baptisms, marriages and burials. If I couldn't find any trace of the family, I would start looking for nonconformist records. When you do that, be sure you check every chapel within the area, even some that may be more than 10 miles from where your family lived and even in a different county. (That came home to me when I discovered that one of my families who lived in Cellan Parish, CGN was attending services at Ffaldybrenin in Llanycrwys Parish, CMN. He later moved to Capel Mair in Llanfair Clydogau and family was also at Ebenezer in Llangybi. But the entire family was buried at the Llanfair Clydogau Parish Churchyard, almost all of them Independents.) After 1 July 1837, I still look at the BT or PR for baptisms and burials. You really need all the help you can get. Also, it is not uncommon for several sons in a family to be ministers and certainly not uncommon to have a Church of England Minister and a nonconformist minister in the same family, often brothers. It has happen to my family so many times, that I am no longer shook up by it, wondering how it could happen. Remember, if you find an young man in the family, say age 22 or 23 and he is a scholar, he's probably studying to be a minister or he is one. Annie