OK, OK, two very nice letters from you and Julie. Yes, I DID complain once before--I think only the once. Can I be the only one who finds this irritating and time-consuming? Do people get ONLY the email from your site? Then a number of separate letters would be fun. I get, after pruning back, 4 such sites, some with 26 entries. Let's just say 10 for average, though. So 40 pieces of mail, plus the 20 or so per day from friends, etc., if I switch to the L rather than D mode. And, I think you said, your server makes deleting the letter to which you are replying difficult...Julie seems to say that in her reply. That isn't that hard for me, so it's difficult for me to understand the problem. On other sites, people seem to respond by saying "Dear Chauncy, about the census problem...", and go on from there. Long signature lines, after many spaces, followed by self-advertising (not the unavoidable Juno-type stuff) also contributes to the length for D subscribers. PLEASE know I recognize what real jewels you and Julie are with your selfless devotion to the site and to Welsh research in general. Thanks very much for the speedy and thoughtful answers in the midst of busy lives! Lyn

Hi Listers, I don't very often post messages on this list (I prefer to make my contributions elsewhere) but on this occasion I feel compelled to add my two pennyworth. I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiments expressed in Lyn's final paragraph (Lyn at [email protected] ) ------------------ PLEASE know I recognize what real jewels you and Julie are with your selfless devotion to the site and to Welsh research in general. Thanks very much for the speedy and thoughtful answers in the midst of busy lives! ------------------ I thinks it's rather churlish of anyone to complain because Julie Preston and Gareth Hicks include unedited original messages at the bottom of their responses. As these old messages are at the bottom, there is no need for us to scroll through them. We can simply read Julie's and Gareth's contributions and then either ignore or scan quickly through what follows according to our personal preferences. Because of time constraints, these two busy people have to make a choice: EITHER they provide listers with six or more well-considered helpful responses per day, and include possibly lengthy original text at the bottom; OR they provide only two or three helpful responses, but spend time tidying up the addenda at the bottom of their messages. (.... or even worse, they cease contributing to this list and concentrate on the several others to which they are subscribed). I know which choice I would want them to make... and it would NOT be numbers two or three! :o) I think we should all consider ourselves extremely fortunate that we have people such as Julie and Gareth who are willing to spend so much of their time helping us make progress with our family history research. It must be rather soul-destroying for them to feel their efforts are not properly appreciated. Best wishes, John ---------------------------------- John Ball, South Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] Welsh Family History Archive: http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE] Answers OK, OK, two very nice letters from you and Julie. Yes, I DID complain once before--I think only the once. Can I be the only one who finds this irritating and time-consuming? Do people get ONLY the email from your site? Then a number of separate letters would be fun. I get, after pruning back, 4 such sites, some with 26 entries. Let's just say 10 for average, though. So 40 pieces of mail, plus the 20 or so per day from friends, etc., if I switch to the L rather than D mode. And, I think you said, your server makes deleting the letter to which you are replying difficult...Julie seems to say that in her reply. That isn't that hard for me, so it's difficult for me to understand the problem. On other sites, people seem to respond by saying "Dear Chauncy, about the census problem...", and go on from there. Long signature lines, after many spaces, followed by self-advertising (not the unavoidable Juno-type stuff) also contributes to the length for D subscribers. PLEASE know I recognize what real jewels you and Julie are with your selfless devotion to the site and to Welsh research in general. Thanks very much for the speedy and thoughtful answers in the midst of busy lives! Lyn --- This message is certified virus-free by AVG Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 07/03/2001

As a last word on this I think I'd better say thet Lyn's real enough problem with long message tails is probably one that most of us don't quite understand. I believe this is because Lyn is with Aol who do everything their own way [ as I remember from my own Aol days anyway] and the digest is presented as one long message ,with divisions but requiring one to scroll through each one "in its entirety" just to reach the next one. Not like with Outlook Express which presents each message as a separate clickable item from a menu. So, yes, we might all try just a bit harder to trim the surplus baggage from replies, without removing what is necessary for the response to make sense of course. I'm glad we've sorted that one out ! Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE] Answers

Gareth and Lyn, I may be all wet on this, but can't anyone use the Outlook Express software package for email, no matter what isp you use? Julie Preston [email protected] Gareth wrote: > I believe this is because Lyn is with Aol who do everything their own way > [ as I remember from my own Aol days anyway] and the digest is presented as > one long message ,with divisions but requiring one to scroll through each > one "in its entirety" just to reach the next one. > Not like with Outlook Express which presents each message as a separate > clickable item from a menu.