In a message dated 11/14/03 9:44:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Re the name of Vaughan - this is a very famous family in Wales. I don't know where TUCLUYDD is at this moment nor even if I have any material on it, but I can tell you that this family lived in Cardiganshire. I have heard of Greengrove and of Highmead. I know who Herbert Evans was, etc. I have some wills of Highmead. Write to me off line and I'll see what I can find. Annie > Joe Carter" <joecarter666@hotmail.com> > To: WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > > > My Gt G.Father was Frederick Vaughan, born 10/1/1839 supposedly at > ..TUCLUYDD, Wales, County not Known? > His father was Henry Frederick Vaughan 3rd son of John Vaughan of Greengrove > (and Jane Evans of Highmead)who took the additional name of Lloyd to inherit > the Brynog (more correctly "Breinog" Estate;) in Aeron Valley near Trefilan > his mother was Mary Anne(maybe Marianne) Caroline Catherine > Griffies-Williams, dau of Sir George Griffies-Williams and & Anne Margaretta Evans (Dau of > Herbert Evans of Highmead) so his parents were 1st Cousins(just by the way) > I found the Marriage record on the IGI of the LGS Church, I found a > baptismal record of his elder brother at the same church a year later ( St Peter & > St Paul at Marlborough, Wilts) > I found 2 younger brothers on IGI baptised at Wiston, Pembrokeshire in 1840's > What I don't know and need help :------ > 1. I cant find Tucluydd ??? but if the name was passed down by word of > mouth here in Australia would > Tyrllwyd in the Llangoedmor Parish sound like Tucluydd if pronounced in a > Welsh accent to an ear used to the Australian flat accent?? > Because in the list of Sheriffs of Cardiganshire posted by Gareth Hicks on > 25/5/2003 shows a John Vaughan Lloyd of Tyllwyd in 1821 > Now my John Vaughan Lloyd was married in 1788 but Burkes Landed Gentry does > not show him as a Sheriff whereas his grandson Herbert is the Sheriff in 1862 > and his father Edward Vaughan as Sheriff in 1775 , as per Gareth's list: > Of course if you haven't guessed already this is the family and descendants > of Dorothy Vaughan (nee Hill) Viscountess Lisburne in the 1700's > STILL I cant find my G.Grandfather's birth place. > And although it seems fairly certain this is his family I have no concrete > connection , even though Herbert Millingchamp Vaughan (The South Wales > Squires etc) visited Aus and my Grandparents in 1912/3 but thats all! > SO any of Dorothy's descendants in Wales and I know there are some would > love to hear from you. > We have quite a large extended family in Aussie as Frederick Vaughan > emigrated in about 1861 -2 he was first married in South Australia in 1864. > My other interest is Glynne of Glyn Teyweryn, Montgomery so I have yet to > post my interest there. > Any Takers??? > Wales played 2 magnificent games of Rugby against NZ and Eng. and were a > trifle unlucky against Eng. > Regards > Joe Carter > Blaxland NSW OZ > > ______________________________ > > X-Message: #2 >