Joyce, Further to my previous reply, I decided to take a look for any RUSSELL's living in Cardiganshire in the 1881 Census Index. There were only 3 people with that surname, all living in Aberystwyth. I strongly suspect your "Abavardi" is, indeed, Aberystwyth. Perhaps these entries might give you some clues, even though Catherine and, presumably, her parents, had emigrated before 1881. You could search for Catherine's birth certificate in the GRO Indexes for the 4 quarters of 1852 or, alternatively, write to the Supt. Registrar's Office, Aberystwyth (see details/address on GENUKI pages under Civil Registration) and you won't need the GRO index number, in that case. Dwelling: Terrace Road Census Place: Aberystwith, Cardigan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342310 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5445 Folio 25 Page 46 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Thomas WHITE M 37 M Aberystwyth, Cardigan, Wales Rel: Head Occ: Lapidary & Jeweller Employing 2 Men Eliza WHITE M 34 F Hakin Milford, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Wife Thomas Henry WHITE U 14 M Hakin Milford, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Scholar William Robert WHITE U 9 M Aberystwyth, Cardigan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Isabel Elizabeth WHITE U 8 F Aberystwyth, Cardigan, Wales Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Mary Jane Rowlands WHITE U 6 F Aberystwyth, Cardigan, Wales Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Alexander John Russell WHITE U 3 M Aberystwyth, Cardigan, Wales Rel: Son Henry WHITE U 50 M Aberystwyth, Cardigan, Wales Rel: Brother Jane RUSSELL U 40 F Hakin Milford, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Sister In Law Mary DAVIES U 20 F Tenby, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Serv Occ: General Servant Domestic Dwelling: Market Street Talbot Hotel Census Place: Aberystwith, Cardigan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342310 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5445 Folio 68 Page 31 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John Richard JONES M 49 M Llanfihangel, Cardigan, Wales Rel: Head Occ: Hotel Keeper Mary JONES M 60 F Llanllwchaiarn, Montgomery, Wales Rel: Wife Sarah STEPHENS U 29 F Berriew, Montgomery, Wales Rel: Niece Maggie JONES U 28 F Newtown, Montgomery, Wales Rel: Serv Occ: Barmaid (Inn Serv) Mary THOMAS U 48 F Carno, Montgomery, Wales Rel: Serv Occ: General Servant Elizabeth DAVIES U 36 F Llanbadarnfawr, Cardigan, Wales Rel: Serv Occ: General Servant Jane LLOYD U 26 F Llansantffread, Cardigan, Wales Rel: Serv Occ: General Servant Lizzie JONES U 22 F Aberystwith, Cardigan, Wales Rel: Serv Occ: General Servant Lizzie MASON U 21 F Aberystwith, Cardigan, Wales Rel: Serv Occ: General Servant Robert HAGGER M 53 M Chisthull, Essex, England Rel: Visitor Occ: Farmer Thomas MORRIS M 45 M Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Visitor Occ: Farmer Joseph HADDON U 30 M Clipston, Northampton, England Rel: Visitor Occ: Grazier Edward RUSSELL M 36 M Clipston, Northampton, England Rel: Visitor Occ: Grazier John MILLER M 51 M Wolverhampton Rel: Visitor Dwelling: Queens Road Census Place: Aberystwith, Cardigan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342310 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5445 Folio 38 Page 72 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Alfred G. HARLOW M 38 M London, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: Master Mariner Elizabeth HARLOW M 36 F Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Rel: Wife Alfred J. HARLOW 10 M Milford, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Son Alexander J. HARLOW 9 M Aberystwyth, Cardigan, Wales Rel: Son Thomas H. HARLOW 7 M Aberystwyth, Cardigan, Wales Rel: Son Ada J. HARLOW 4 F Aberystwyth, Cardigan, Wales Rel: Daur Lilian HARLOW 3 F Aberystwyth, Cardigan, Wales Rel: Daur Greta L. RUSSELL 13 F Dock, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Niece Ethel HARLOW 1 F Aberystwyth, Cardigan, Wales Rel: Daur Mary Ann JENKINS 24 F Cwmystwyth, Cardigan, Wales Rel: Serv Occ: General Servant Domestic Regards, Julie Preston [email protected]

Joyce, There is no parish of "Abarvardi" in Cardiganshire (or anywhere in Wales). Perhaps a clarification of the source(s) you're referencing and the entire text in context might help to figure out the correct parish. Regards, Julie Preston [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gareth" <W/[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 7:09 AM Subject: [WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE] Fw: russell family > From: "Joyce Arden" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 12:40 AM > Subject: russell family > > > > Searching for details of Catherine Russell,born c 1852 ,Abavardi, > > Cardiganshire > > Sailed to New Zealand, May/June 1869from Gravesend. > > Any help much appreciated. > > Joyce Arden. > > > > > > > >

Jerry, Unfortunately, there's no published index to births for that time. If you suspect he was born in the parish of Llandysul (there's also a Llandysul/Llandyssil in Montgomeryshire, by the way), it would appear you'll have trouble locating a baptism in either the original parish register (baptisms begin 1798 -- earlier registers apparently lost) or in the Bishop's Transcripts (filmed by the LDS/Mormons). Perhaps wills (St. David's Diocese), Land Tax Assessments (ca. 1798), etc., might be avenues you could try. Regards, Julie Preston [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald E. Thomas" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 4:01 PM Subject: [WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE] DAVID THOMAS > Could you look up to see if a David Thomas was born in 1761 in Llandyssil Parish, Cardiganshire or if he was not born in that parish, if he was born in Cardiganshire. > > I am interested in his parents names and also a brother (unnamed) born to his parents. > > Thank you for any help. > > Jerry Thomas > >

Has anyone came across a Joseph Strange in their research? Can anyone tell me if the name BOWDEN is a valid Welsh surname? Joseph Bowden was born in Wales and settled in Minersville PA. I wonder if there was a slight change in his surname when he imigrated. I know of Bowen and Bowdren but can't find anything on Bowden.

Could you look up to see if a David Thomas was born in 1761 in Llandyssil Parish, Cardiganshire or if he was not born in that parish, if he was born in Cardiganshire. I am interested in his parents names and also a brother (unnamed) born to his parents. Thank you for any help. Jerry Thomas

From: "Joyce Arden" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 12:40 AM Subject: russell family > Searching for details of Catherine Russell,born c 1852 ,Abavardi, > Cardiganshire > Sailed to New Zealand, May/June 1869from Gravesend. > Any help much appreciated. > Joyce Arden. > > >

Hi Listers Would SKS who has access to the 1871 Census please ascertain for me if the following members of my family were residing at Talybont, Cardiganshire- Richard Pugh born c1841 Cardiganshire Mary Pugh (nee Jones) born c1846 Talybont David Pugh born c 18 born 1868 Talybont John Thomas Pugh born 18th Dec 1869 Talybont According to J T Pugh's birth certificate Richard was a Lead Miner. I would also appreciate receiving all the details about the family that the Census contains With warmest regards Roy Pugh Cadoxton-Juxta-Neath ALSO RESEARCHING Roberts - Aberystwyth/Denbigh Pugh - Newtown Middleton - Llanfair Caereinion/Welshpool/Oswestry

> Hi All > Just to let you know that the School Photographs Website is finally up and > running and can be found at > www.schoolphotos.f2s.com > > Please be patient with it. It is still very early days and there will no > doubt be many alterations over the coming months. Though I have tried to > compress the photographs as much as possible without losing their quality, > some pages are still very slow to load. There are still many, many areas > without any photographs at the moment but this will change as time goes on > and now the ground work is done I can concentrate on the actual content. I > will be working on Look Ups and Requests page tonight and I also have about > another 60 photographs to enter, but please keep your contributions coming > in. > I hope you enjoy what I have put together and I would appreciate any > comments or suggestions regarding the site and of course any photographs or > information on schools that any of you may still have and could share with > others. > Many thanks to everyone who has contributed photographs and information so > far. > Best wishes > Kim > www.schoolphotos.f2s.com > > >

Hi Everyone, I am new to this list and have a question for you all. Was the beach at Aberystwyth called Beach Southern in the mid 1920's? I have a photo of my grandparents on "Beach Southern" and am trying to find where it is? I also have postcards of Aberystwyth dated 1946 showing the beach and promenade which prompts me to ask this question. Hoping to hear from you. Judy in Mooroopna, Australia.

I'm looking for someone about whom a contact on the Dyfed list has told me. He has undertaken research into the FELIX name in 18th and 19th century Cardiganshire, perhaps the area of Lledrod/ Llanilar/Llanddewi Brefi. Some of the family emigrated to Waukesha County, Wisconsin, in the 18th century. Many thanks. Laura Davies [email protected] _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Forwarded at Kim's request. Replies direct to her please, not the list as she isn't subbed, presumably Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Bewick" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 8:44 PM Subject: School photos website > Sorry to bother you, but would you mind posting the following mail to your > list. As you can see I am constructing a site devoted to school photographs > and obviously the more people that here about it the better. > Many Thanks > Kim Bewick > [email protected] > > > Hi everyone > I have noticed over the last few weeks on several lists I belong to, people > requesting photographs of schools which have a connection with their family > history. As a result I am now putting together a website to include as many > photographs as possible from throughout the UK for people to use with > their histories If anyone has photographs that they would like to share I > would be delighted to include them. Also if you have any information > relating to the school I would be grateful if that could be sent as well as > we all know how useful background details are. Please contact me at > [email protected] > Many thanks > Best Wishes > Kim > >

Has anyone got any information linking Sir Davey Gam to the Gambolds of Pembroke? Also we have got as far back with our family tree to 1638 with the marriage of William Gambold to Maria ?? William Gambold was born in Cilgerran circa 1615 & buried 19th July 1670 in Cardigan. Are there any relatives with any information for us? Thank you Janet & David Whiteley, Bridgend

Hello, I'll be unsubscribed until Nov. 15th in case anyone's trying to reach me. Regards, Julie Preston [email protected]

Hi Everyone, Dyfed and Cardiganshire Listers may be interested to know I've just uploaded a new "Images of Wales" feature onto my website, depicting "Dolcoed", a 300-year-old former woollen mill at Bontnewydd in the parish of Blaenpennal near Tregaron, Cardiganshire. Select "Images of Wales" from the "Short Cuts" link at the top of my WFHA homepage at the URL below. Enjoy!! :o) Best wishes, John ---------------------------------- John Ball, South Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] John's Welsh Family History Archive: http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm --- This message is certified virus-free by AVG Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.193 / Virus Database: 93 - Release Date: 19/09/00

John, In response to your question, I'm also posting this to all of the mailing lists I'm subscribed to as there are probably many new subscribers who aren't aware of this: For anyone researching in Wales, the one book I consider to be a "must have" is "Welsh Family History, A Guide to Research", ed. by John & Sheila Rowlands, 2nd edition1998, pub. by the Federation of Family History Societies Publications Ltd. and the authors, ISBN 1 86006 065 X. This edition (and other genealogical research books/guides) can now be purchased online from the Society of Genealogists, London -- website: http://www.sog.org.uk/acatalog/welcome.html --- under British Research/Wales/Genealogical Guides from the online catalog page. For those of us who live outside the UK, this online purchasing method is extremely convenient! *PLEASE*, *PLEASE*, purchase (and read!) this book, as it will answer many of the basic questions posed to the lists (and directly to lookup exchange volunteers) by new researchers who are unfamiliar with the types of records available. It also addresses those records that go beyond the obvious parish registers, Bishops' Transcripts, and Census Returns, and which are often overlooked by many researchers. In addition, purchasing Ordnance Survey maps of the areas you're researching is also essential, and will clear up many frustrations encountered due to your unfamiliarity with the locale. Julie Preston [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "john richards" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 4:37 PM Subject: Welsh Family History > Hello Julie, > > Sounds interesting, do you by any chance have the ISBN number and /or > author. > > John Richards. (London UK) > Searching > RICHARDS, WIFFEN, DAY (London & Middx.) > WIFFEN & NORRIS (Stock, Essex) > RICHARDS & DUGGAN (Pembs) DFHS 2715 > DAY, SAUNDERS, (North Surrey)

For Julie from Richard who isn't subbed on this address Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "cq2" <[email protected]> To: "CARDIGAN" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 9:44 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re - non-communication > Hope you resolve your problems Julie. > I am still awaiting Certs!hope I've sent to correct Reg.office! > :-)) > All the best Richard > >

Julie - I've tried to email you off list as requested, but it keeps being returned to me with the message "you are not allowed to send mail" to your email address. Don't know if the problem is your end or my end. Any suggestions? Julie Seddon [email protected]

Our local Antiques and Book Shop has a family bible with the following Richard Harry THOMAS born Cardigan 1882 Ester KENDALL born Merthyr married on 25.06.1912 in Merthyr There are other entries of children, if anybody has a connection to this family and would like more information let me know (soon) before the book is sold! Regards Angela Cooke in the town of Buckingham,England -- Gin -- Gin

Just to add to Julie's very full advice that the Ceredigion Archives contact details etc are on the Archives section of my Help Page. Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Preston" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 1:36 AM Subject: Re: [WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE] help please

Hi Julie Every researcher in Wales should make at least one visit in their life time to the NLW, if only to know what they are missing ! Check out the NLW's entry on the Archives section of my Help Page, has directions on finding your way round the place. Can't help with accommodation but I'm sure you will be able to deal with the odd riotous, or even rioting, student :-) Oh, perhaps the Cambrian News site will have some accommodation links; http://www.aberystwyth-today.co.uk/index2.cfm Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Seddon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 9:53 PM Subject: [WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE] help please > Hi everyone, > I'm re-posting my family interest: MORRIS family who lived in Portland Lane/Road Aberystwyth from 1860s onwards but also need your help. > > I'm planning a trip to Aberystwyth to visit my ggg-grandfather's grave at Llanbadarn Fawr parish church. I've spoke to the Ceredigon Archive Office but would value your opinion on whether a visit to the National Library of Wales would be useful - I can only do so much in a few days! If the NLW is worth visiting, do I need a reader's ticket or do I have to book an appointment with anyone? If so, who should I contact? > Also, can anyone suggest a hotel/area that would be convenient for the archive office and Llanbadarn Fawr - I don't want to end up in the red light district or among riotous students! > Grateful for any help or suggestions, > > Julie > >