Hello Searching for information on the following people. Evan Evans & Esther Jones Married on 12 Feb 1810 in parish church in Llanwenog. Evan Evans parents were: John Evans: Died 27 Nov 1829 Esther Evans: Died 21 Apr 1851 His parents were buried at parish church in LLanwenog. Also the name Maes-y-rhydiau bychain, which I think is the name of the home? of John and Esther Evans. The above information comes from a family book,that I am trying to verify and add to. Some of the dates and places in it have been way off. Thank you cd [email protected]

Thank you Steve for the translation. I'm looking into the dictionary. Calista in very snowy Missouri

Hi Calista, Beili, often seen alone as a place name, means: yard or enclosure (often formed by a wall or hedge, as in castle). Ffoes or Ffôs means: ditch or trench, usually man made. For obvious reasons the two, very often go together. I hope this helps. And yes, get yourself a copy of 'Y Geiriadur Mawr' Gomer Press. ISBN No. 0-7154-0543-8 Hwyl (you can look that up in your new Geiriadur!) Steve.

Could someone please tell me the meaning of this place name? Would a Welsh-English dictionary help me in the future? I'm assuming this is a small place in the area of Llangoedmor, although so far I've not found it on the map sites. Appreciate all the help I've had. We've sent for the parish records from LHS, so we'll see what else turns up. Calista

Hi Richard Don't forget to ask Ceredigion Archives in Aberystwyth, they are very helpful and knowledgable, email address under Archives on my Help Page. Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Parry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 9:23 PM Subject: [WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE] Village of Llanilar, Cardiganshire > > Dear Fellow Listers > > Can anyone help me with information regarding the village of Llanilar in > Cardiganshire. I am looking for the names of the shopkeepers in the village, > possibly grocers, bakers or post office, in the name of Parry between the > 1880 - 1920 timeframe. I am specifically looking for a Margaret or Mary > Parry. > > If anyone has access to such lists of this area, I would appreciate if the > could look for the Parry name on my behalf. > > Thanks in advance > Richard Parry > [email protected] > >

Hi Julie I may be wrong and it's a while ago now since I used it but as i recall it, no, you can't use OE to collect your emails with AOL. They use their own systems for everything. Can anyone else confirm this ? Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Preston" <[email protected]> To: "Gareth" <W/[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE] Re: Digest problems > Gareth and Lyn, > > I may be all wet on this, but can't anyone use the Outlook Express software > package for email, no matter what isp you use? > > Julie Preston > [email protected] > > Gareth wrote: > > > I believe this is because Lyn is with Aol who do everything their own way > > [ as I remember from my own Aol days anyway] and the digest is presented > as > > one long message ,with divisions but requiring one to scroll through each > > one "in its entirety" just to reach the next one. > > Not like with Outlook Express which presents each message as a separate > > clickable item from a menu. > > > >

Dear Fellow Listers Can anyone help me with information regarding the village of Llanilar in Cardiganshire. I am looking for the names of the shopkeepers in the village, possibly grocers, bakers or post office, in the name of Parry between the 1880 - 1920 timeframe. I am specifically looking for a Margaret or Mary Parry. If anyone has access to such lists of this area, I would appreciate if the could look for the Parry name on my behalf. Thanks in advance Richard Parry [email protected]

As a last word on this I think I'd better say thet Lyn's real enough problem with long message tails is probably one that most of us don't quite understand. I believe this is because Lyn is with Aol who do everything their own way [ as I remember from my own Aol days anyway] and the digest is presented as one long message ,with divisions but requiring one to scroll through each one "in its entirety" just to reach the next one. Not like with Outlook Express which presents each message as a separate clickable item from a menu. So, yes, we might all try just a bit harder to trim the surplus baggage from replies, without removing what is necessary for the response to make sense of course. I'm glad we've sorted that one out ! Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE] Answers

Adrianne, Welcome to the list. Suggest you also subscribe to the longer-established Dyfed list as many subscribers there have overlapping interests in the counties of Cardiganshire, Carmarthenshire and Pembrokeshire. A good place to begin would be to check out the links provided to you in the "Welcome" message you received from the listowner, Gareth Hicks, when you subscribed to this list. If you thoroughly explore the links from those pages, you'll get a good idea of the many resources available. For anyone researching in Wales, the one book I consider to be a "must have" is "Welsh Family History, A Guide to Research", ed. by John & Sheila Rowlands, 2nd edition1998, pub. by the Federation of Family History Societies Publications Ltd. and the authors, ISBN 1 86006 065 X. You can now purchase this book in the U.S. from Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD -- website www.genealogybookshop.com You said your Griffith JOHN "lived in the area" but no specifics. Do you have any references to a house name, village or parish in Cardiganshire? What source material do you have referring to Cardiganshire as his origin? Best regards, Julie Preston [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "AKH" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 12:34 PM Subject: [WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE] new to the list ..... a few questions... > I'm brand new to researching this area. I am researching Griffith John who lived in the area and went to America in 1715. > > Are there good web sites to help you learn how to research in Wales? > > Thanks, > > Adrianne > Atlanta, Georgia > US > >

Gareth and Lyn, I may be all wet on this, but can't anyone use the Outlook Express software package for email, no matter what isp you use? Julie Preston [email protected] Gareth wrote: > I believe this is because Lyn is with Aol who do everything their own way > [ as I remember from my own Aol days anyway] and the digest is presented as > one long message ,with divisions but requiring one to scroll through each > one "in its entirety" just to reach the next one. > Not like with Outlook Express which presents each message as a separate > clickable item from a menu.

I'm brand new to researching this area. I am researching Griffith John who lived in the area and went to America in 1715. Are there good web sites to help you learn how to research in Wales? Thanks, Adrianne Atlanta, Georgia US

Hear, Hear!

Seeking information on descendents of John Lewis (son of Thomas Lewis and Mary Jones) and Elinor (Ellen) Jones (daughter of David Jones and Margaret Evans). Lewis family has lived at Minffordd, Nantarthur, Tanyfford and Ochor-y-ffordd in Llanfihangel-y-Creuddyn Uchaf. The Jones family has lived at Old Abbey, Blaengorphen and New Mill in Caron-uwch-Clawdd (Strata Florida). We lost contact with family member Margaret Williams, "Harbor View" North 29 South Road, Aberystwyth in the early 1950's. Would like to resume contact with family. Cousin of mine will be in Aberystwyth area May 21, 22 & 23. If any of you have information please email me. Bev Brimble-Turner [email protected]

Hi Listers, I don't very often post messages on this list (I prefer to make my contributions elsewhere) but on this occasion I feel compelled to add my two pennyworth. I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiments expressed in Lyn's final paragraph (Lyn at [email protected] ) ------------------ PLEASE know I recognize what real jewels you and Julie are with your selfless devotion to the site and to Welsh research in general. Thanks very much for the speedy and thoughtful answers in the midst of busy lives! ------------------ I thinks it's rather churlish of anyone to complain because Julie Preston and Gareth Hicks include unedited original messages at the bottom of their responses. As these old messages are at the bottom, there is no need for us to scroll through them. We can simply read Julie's and Gareth's contributions and then either ignore or scan quickly through what follows according to our personal preferences. Because of time constraints, these two busy people have to make a choice: EITHER they provide listers with six or more well-considered helpful responses per day, and include possibly lengthy original text at the bottom; OR they provide only two or three helpful responses, but spend time tidying up the addenda at the bottom of their messages. (.... or even worse, they cease contributing to this list and concentrate on the several others to which they are subscribed). I know which choice I would want them to make... and it would NOT be numbers two or three! :o) I think we should all consider ourselves extremely fortunate that we have people such as Julie and Gareth who are willing to spend so much of their time helping us make progress with our family history research. It must be rather soul-destroying for them to feel their efforts are not properly appreciated. Best wishes, John ---------------------------------- John Ball, South Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] Welsh Family History Archive: http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE] Answers OK, OK, two very nice letters from you and Julie. Yes, I DID complain once before--I think only the once. Can I be the only one who finds this irritating and time-consuming? Do people get ONLY the email from your site? Then a number of separate letters would be fun. I get, after pruning back, 4 such sites, some with 26 entries. Let's just say 10 for average, though. So 40 pieces of mail, plus the 20 or so per day from friends, etc., if I switch to the L rather than D mode. And, I think you said, your server makes deleting the letter to which you are replying difficult...Julie seems to say that in her reply. That isn't that hard for me, so it's difficult for me to understand the problem. On other sites, people seem to respond by saying "Dear Chauncy, about the census problem...", and go on from there. Long signature lines, after many spaces, followed by self-advertising (not the unavoidable Juno-type stuff) also contributes to the length for D subscribers. PLEASE know I recognize what real jewels you and Julie are with your selfless devotion to the site and to Welsh research in general. Thanks very much for the speedy and thoughtful answers in the midst of busy lives! Lyn --- This message is certified virus-free by AVG Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 07/03/2001

Why, what was she on about?? ;-) Only joking!! Regards, Steve.

A cry from the heart on behalf of all Digest listers ! I seem to recall you [or someone with a similar email address] telling me off on the Dyflist once or twice over the months, and I'm sure i laid the ultimate responsibility for my future good behaviour firmly at your feet by suggesting you might need to give me regular clips around the ears as a reminder. I will do my best, but....... Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 5:05 AM Subject: [WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE] Answers > I agree your ideas about answering to the list are admirable, but WHY must > you copy the entire letter instead of writing a 1 sentence summary and then > answering? It takes up soooo much space unnecessarily, especially when some > of the letters already are trailing clouds of letters themselves. No list > could have better help than Gareth and Julie, but you are two of the > culprits. Not all of us can add 30-40 letters to our mailing lists daily by > using the L option from our Rootsweb sources. PLEASE reconsider your habit. > Thanks! > >

OK, OK, two very nice letters from you and Julie. Yes, I DID complain once before--I think only the once. Can I be the only one who finds this irritating and time-consuming? Do people get ONLY the email from your site? Then a number of separate letters would be fun. I get, after pruning back, 4 such sites, some with 26 entries. Let's just say 10 for average, though. So 40 pieces of mail, plus the 20 or so per day from friends, etc., if I switch to the L rather than D mode. And, I think you said, your server makes deleting the letter to which you are replying difficult...Julie seems to say that in her reply. That isn't that hard for me, so it's difficult for me to understand the problem. On other sites, people seem to respond by saying "Dear Chauncy, about the census problem...", and go on from there. Long signature lines, after many spaces, followed by self-advertising (not the unavoidable Juno-type stuff) also contributes to the length for D subscribers. PLEASE know I recognize what real jewels you and Julie are with your selfless devotion to the site and to Welsh research in general. Thanks very much for the speedy and thoughtful answers in the midst of busy lives! Lyn

Lyn, Guilty as charged. It appears this must be a pet peeve of yours. I confess that after attempting to formulate cohesive, informative replies to perhaps a dozen people per day (on and off this list plus Dyfed, Powys and Montgomeryshire lists), some involving as much as 30 mins. to an hour of my time in order to provide that person with valuable information, there are times when I neglect to scroll down and delete the previous thread. In fact, I make it a particular *point* to include the message to which I am replying as the point of reference. If, after donating my time and efforts to help others, I neglect to "summarize" the previous message as you suggest, I sincerely hope I may be forgiven this transgression, now and in the future. I have, however, trimmed off your message and not included it in this reply. Regards, Julie Preston [email protected]

I agree your ideas about answering to the list are admirable, but WHY must you copy the entire letter instead of writing a 1 sentence summary and then answering? It takes up soooo much space unnecessarily, especially when some of the letters already are trailing clouds of letters themselves. No list could have better help than Gareth and Julie, but you are two of the culprits. Not all of us can add 30-40 letters to our mailing lists daily by using the L option from our Rootsweb sources. PLEASE reconsider your habit. Thanks!

Hi Gareth, Yes, I am one of those but I will try and remember in future. After 35 years here we are moving to St Albans next week so will be unsubed for a while. Any messages re RICHARDS & DUGGAN to me by e-mai please. John Richards. (London UK) Searching RICHARDS, WIFFEN, DAY (London & Middx.) WIFFEN & NORRIS (Stock, Essex) RICHARDS & DUGGAN (Pembs) DFHS 2715 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gareth" <W/[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 2:58 PM Subject: [WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE] Off list responses > The practice of sending list queries to the sender *only* is one that occurs > on all lists that I am on, including those covering Dyfed. > For the sake of saying so, if we do this then several things may happen; > > <other listers are deprived of the opportunity to read/digest it, and ask > supplementaries perhaps, so a thread doesn't develop. > > <if a response off list is incomplete or even incorrect then someone gets > mislead. We are all capable of gettting it wrong on occasion, I personally > take comfort that someone will pick up on any of my blunders ! > > <the list appears to be unresponsive, and suffers for it when new listers > leave having got the wrong impression of how helpful a list really is. Or > are inhibited from asking at all if other people apparently don't get a > reply. > > I could go on and on but I think the point is made :-) > > Gareth > List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. > Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html > Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.228 / Virus Database: 109 - Release Date: 17/01/01