Pat: from my copy of "Some Old Characters of Penmachno" - Pages 96-97 Ellis Williams "On our visit to the old locality in 1903, Ellis Williams was yet a pillar in the big pew, though his hearing had been completely impaired for years; but for a long time now, he has been confined from his work, and his presence in the church below was missed. He was the last of the old leaders, but his sun also set close to last Christmas (1914) aged in years, to live in the dawn's clear luster of the spiritual world. As long as my days shall last upon the earth, shall I remember his earnest prayers, and his precious admonitions. He was the mightiest I ever heard in prayer. When he lost two of his children after they had grown up, grief nearly brought him down, and with his heart in two he began to pay in his tears, taking that verse for a prayer subject: "There is, therefore, now, no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus" and he muttered, "Though the children's health hath given way - no condemnation! and though having lost them - no condemnation!" That evening was one ever to be remembered, the stoniest heart melted, everybody shedding copious tears, while the old saints were praising, shouting, "Glory to God! The condemnation hath been removed!" At other times, he would portray "the difficulty that the shepherd experienced in his effort to lead that stubborn sheep into the fold; and the last thing the shepherd would do would be to lay hold of her lamb, and carry it in his arms into the fold. As soon as she caught sight of her lamb in the shepherd's arms in the fold, nothing could prevent her from entering." Then he added: "The Good Shepherd has taken some of my lambs in His arms into the heavenly fold, and neither fire nor water can stop me from going there after them." There was another Ellis Williams chronicled in this book, at length, but he died in 1895. If you need another name looked for, just let me know. Holly