Hi I have felt for a long time now that much confusion can be caused to non Welsh speaking listers regarding the difference between the two counties Caernarfon in North Wales and Caerfyrddin in South Wales, which must be about 150 miles apart. In view of this it is advisable for them to be informed of the difference in both languages: SIR GAERNARFON (current spelling) SIR GARNARVON ( spelling prior to 1917 and SIR GAERNARVON from 1917 to the last change in the 1970's. In English they would be CAERNARFONSHIRE (current spelling) CARNARVONSHIRE up to 1917 and CAERNARVONSHIRE from 1917 - 1970's. (Only one consonant change on each occasion, but I don't mean the mutation change at the beginning of the name of the County. SIR being a feminine noun need a soft mutation following it, in this case the C becomes a G) On the other hand there has been no change in the spellings of CARMARTHENSHIRE (English) and SIR GAERFYRDDIN (Welsh), the only change being the mutation change aforementioned. Hope this will clarify the position once and for all. Maggie Blythin is perfectly correct in saying tthat NEWCASTLE EMLYN (English) or CASTELL NEWYDD EMLYN (Welsh) is in SIR GAERFYRDDIN (CARMARTHEN) not in SIR GAERNARFON.(CAERNARFONSHIRE) Regards, T. Meirion Hughes. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [CAE] Newcastle E > Hello > It'll probably be Newcastle Emlyn, but it's in Carmarthenshire > Regards > Maggi Blythin > The Family Business > Reasonable and efficient research in North Wales. > Visit www.thefamily-business.co.uk for details > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon > This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and English are welcome > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >