Hi William Lloyd Jones mother was ? Griffiths who was born in Clynnog fawr,Llanberis (hence the strange statement in my original email). His father William JONES was b. 1840 in Pen-y-bont Montgomeryshire. Interesting to hear that you had similar experience in your family my G-father was always familiarly known as Thomas Lloyd the family having taken on the LLOYD JONES. I am still hunting for Water Street in Llanberis in any census so if anyone does know pl do let me know. Thanks Vicki Hi Vicki Do you know the surname of your William Lloyd JONES' mother?