Dear Barbara, Did you know that there is a Welsh society in Sydney? I lived in Sydney for a few years in the late seventies to 1980. Some of the people who were in the Welsh church had come out with schemes from the quarries. Tom Roberts, who was 80 then had come out in the 1920s and worked in tin mines out there. He had a stone house on the North shore and I had a pork chop with mashed potatoes and bread and butter there for tea! I know there are some people there who are familiar with this area. The society has a web page. Best wishes, Wendy -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Williams [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 10 September 2004 09:52 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CAE] Re: debate on strikes at Penrhyn and other quarries Hi Wendy Well I have to admit I am finding the whole Bethesda/Llandegai/Llanechid (sp?) a little confusing here. I know this is due to the parishes and boundaries of the times but still.........can anybody point me in the right direction of where I can buy a map or find some indication of how I can pinpoint places? Mostly my previous research has been in Liverpool and Cheshire. Liverpool being of course a large city with specific streets, roads, boundaries. Cheshire has been a little more difficult but I think I have the hang of it.........but the Bethesda/Llandegai/Llanechid is a little more puzzling. I hear what you are saying about the factories and such like in Lancashire, but find it strange that no women were employed in the quarries. I have read many books on the social conditions of the "good old days" and find women and children being employed in various factories, mills - even coal mines and yet there appear to be no women employed in the slate quarries. I wonder why that was? Regards Barbara > Dear Barbara, I think Cilgeraint is a street, Llandegai is a pretty, > small village. Women usually worked in service, there wasn't a lot of > opportunities for women in an otherwise rural area..not like > Lancashire with > the mills. I think it's held the women's movement back in Wales. I've > got a > couple of books about the slate quarry's. I think you could get them > on inter library loan. All the best from the outskirts of Caernarfon, > Wendy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barbara Williams [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 09 September 2004 20:28 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CAE] Re: debate on strikes at Penrhyn and other quarries > > > > When you hear the lives they lived, how hard they work, and what > > they received in return, it makes you angry. My grandfather and > > several uncles, started working at Penrhyn Quarry as 8 year olds. > > They pulled the carts that took the slate up to the rail cars. The > > rail line is still in Llandegai. > > Hi Arlene, Wendy and all, > > This whole thread has been SO interesting. It kind of adds a bit of > "meat to the bones." Every one of my ancestors from the Llandegai > area has so far > been a slate quarryman and I have learnt so much just recently. My g.g. > grandfather was a Slate Waggon (sic) Driver in 1864, do you know what > this kind of job would have entailed? Well obviously driving a Slate > Wagon (!!), > but how was it powered etc? Was it just some kind of cart or more > like a rail train? > > On the birth certificate of his son, they are shown as living at Cilgeraint > Incline, Llandegai, is this a "village" or just the name of a street? > > Arlene, I have been on eBay and looked for the book you recommend, but > it doesn't seem to be available in Australia, I will have to do a > wider search, > can you tell us a little about it? Is it just concerned with the > Great Strike or does it give an overall picture of life for these men? > Which has > just made me think of something else..............were girls ever > employed in the quarry as I see you mention 8 year old boys working > there and I know > that both boys and girls were employed in say the cotton mills and factories > back in the "good old days." > > Thanks and Regards > Barbara > > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== Gwynedd Family History > Society www.gwynedd.fsbusiness.co.uk/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > http://www.archiveshub.ac.uk/inst/uwbangor.shtml > Bangor University Archives > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== Gwynedd Family History Society www.gwynedd.fsbusiness.co.uk/ ============================== You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/