Hi The book about the quarrymen looks v. interesting. My G-G Grandfather, William JONES and his son, William LLOYD JONES both worked in the Cilgwyn Quarry, Llanberis. William LLOYD JONES was killed in an accident there in 1906 so would be interested to find out more. On the same theme. I know that William LLOYD JONES was born in Llanberis in about 1870 and on his wedding certificate (in 1898) he gives the address Water Street, Llanberis he died at 2 Water Street. I have searched the 1871 and 1891 census (on Ancestor) without success. His wife Laura Ellen JONES was born in Upper Llandwrog. I cannot find her in 1891 though on marriage she is living at Tanyfron, Upper Llandwrog.(though I did find a Griffiths family). Searching for a William JONES is of course a tough one so any suggestions gratefully received - I suspect that the son added the LLOYD to distinguish and it became the family surname down to my mother. Thanks Vicki

Hi Vicki Do you know the surname of your William Lloyd JONES' mother? My ancestor was John Ellson POVALL.....his father was John POVALL and his mother Anne ELLSON. Her surname was passed down as a middle name until my grandfather Thomas Ellson POVALL, nobody ever knew where his middle name came from, and although my grandfather had 3 sons he stopped the use of Ellson as a middle name. Just a thought.............. Regards Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vicki" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 8:44 AM Subject: [CAE] Lost in Llanberis > Hi > The book about the quarrymen > looks v. interesting. My G-G > Grandfather, William JONES and > his son, William LLOYD JONES > both worked in the Cilgwyn > Quarry, Llanberis. William > LLOYD JONES was killed in an > accident there in 1906 so > would be interested to find > out more. > On the same theme. I know that > William LLOYD JONES was born > in Llanberis in about 1870 and > on his wedding certificate (in > 1898) he gives the address > Water Street, Llanberis he > died at 2 Water Street. I have > searched the 1871 and 1891 > census (on Ancestor) without > success. His wife Laura Ellen > JONES was born in Upper > Llandwrog. I cannot find her > in 1891 though on marriage she > is living at Tanyfron, Upper > Llandwrog.(though I did find a > Griffiths family). > Searching for a William JONES > is of course a tough one so > any suggestions gratefully > received - I suspect that the > son added the LLOYD to > distinguish and it became the > family surname down to my > mother. > Thanks > Vicki > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon > This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and English are welcome > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hi Vicki The occupants of 2 Water St Llanberis in 1871 census were - Hugh Williams, Head, M, a31 quarryman. Elizabeth Williams, Wife, M, a29 (can't make out) Joan Williams, Son, a3 (definitely Joan & son!) In the 1891 census - John Evans, Head, M, 47 blacksmith Margared Evans, wife, M, Thomas J Evans, son, S,15 (Stoker?) locomotive Alice Evans, daug, a10, scholar Ellen M Griffith, visitor, S, a25 However not to disappoint you! I found living at 14 Water Street, Llanberis the following- William P Jones, Head, M, a48, quarryman, born Llanystumdwy, Caerns Mary Anne Jones, Wife, M, a43, born Llangynog, Montgomeryshire William Lloyd Jones, son, a22, quarryman slate, born Penybont Fawr, Montgomeryshire Richard Henry Jones, son, a20, tailor, born Ffestiniog, Merionethshire Catherine Anne Jones, daug, a11, scholar, born Llanberis Robert Richard Jones, son, a8, scholar, born Llanberis Arthur Grant Jones, son, a5, scholar, born Llanberis John Hugh Jones, son, a4, born Llanberis Adeline (??)ry Jones, daug, a11 months, born Llanberis It looks as though you couldn't find them in the 1871 census in Llanberis because they were in Ffestiniog! Judging by the location that the children were born in - the family were in Penybont Fawr (about 36 miles to the south east of Llanberis and 13 miles to the west of Oswestry). Penybont is only two miles from the birth place of Mary Ann Jones - William Lloyd Jones' mother. There were slate quarries in Llangynog - is that what took William Lloyd Jones father there from Llanystumdwy? The family appear to have arrived in Llanberis by 1880. Hope this helps! Ian Jolly North Wales - researching anyone with connections to Ynys Enlli/Bardsey Island. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vicki" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 11:44 PM Subject: [CAE] Lost in Llanberis > Hi > The book about the quarrymen > looks v. interesting. My G-G > Grandfather, William JONES and > his son, William LLOYD JONES > both worked in the Cilgwyn > Quarry, Llanberis. William > LLOYD JONES was killed in an > accident there in 1906 so > would be interested to find > out more. > On the same theme. I know that > William LLOYD JONES was born > in Llanberis in about 1870 and > on his wedding certificate (in > 1898) he gives the address > Water Street, Llanberis he > died at 2 Water Street. I have > searched the 1871 and 1891 > census (on Ancestor) without > success. His wife Laura Ellen > JONES was born in Upper > Llandwrog. I cannot find her > in 1891 though on marriage she > is living at Tanyfron, Upper > Llandwrog.(though I did find a > Griffiths family). > Searching for a William JONES > is of course a tough one so > any suggestions gratefully > received - I suspect that the > son added the LLOYD to > distinguish and it became the > family surname down to my > mother. > Thanks > Vicki > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon > This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and > English are welcome > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >