Perhaps I should also have mentioned Owen Robert ROWLANDS/ROBERTS' parents and brothers in case he was still living with them at Pant y Buarth in 1861. They were father: Robert ROWLANDS (52) slate quarryman (b Llanddeiniolen)* mother: Catherine (44) (b Llanrug/Llanddeiniolen) (nee JONES) bro: William ROWLANDS (23) (b Llanddeiniolen) (quarryman)** bro: Rowland EVANS (18) (b Llanddeiniolen) (joiner) *I believe that Robert ROWLANDS (52) died between 1862 and 1871 as his wife Catherine appears in the 1871 Bangor census with the surname of WILLIAMS, so I am assuming that she remarried during that period - but whom did she marry? Another little puzzzle for me! **William ROWLANDS was still living in Pant y Buarth as a slate quarryman in 1901(aged 63) with his family (Ellen, poss 2nd wife, 54) and son Henry (27, quarryman). Lizzie Brisbane, Australia FHS: Mont #965, Gwynedd #2991 outgoing mail scanned by PC-cillin 2004