I think Alwyns suggestion is a good idea. What did surprise me was how few people actually do subscribe to the list. Anyway here goes with my Caernarfonshire lot. I’m posting Anglesey separately and then both together on Gwynedd, so if you read the same info 3 times – sorry, but I wasn’t respon-sible for organising the counties – blame Edward I. My name is Dewi and I live not far from the Black Forest in Germany. I’m originally from near Llandudno though. My CAE interests are focussed on Llanllyfni, with the name of WILLIAMS of all things. I have given the names of the farms. Some of them are not entirely correct, but I’ve not got round to pursuing those lines as yet. William Williams, (1759 – 1834), Tal Eithin Uchaf married Margaret (Morsley?) Roberts (1756-1832) They had 5 Children: 1. Robert Williams 1781-1828, Tal Eithin, married Ellen Jones (1785 – 1847) 2. Griffith Williams (1786 – 1827) married Ann Roberts 3. Hugh Williams 1790-1800 4. Owen Williams 1794 – ?, married Jane Hughes 5. Anna Williams 1796 - ?, married William Jones Robert and Elens children: 1.1. Ellis (1813-1892), Tal Eithin, married E. Williams (1831-?) – 7 children 1.2. John Robert Williams (1810-1870) emigrated to USA 1845, married Mary R. Williams, 6 children 1.3. Marjorie 1812-1812; 1.4. Ellen 1813 - ?; 1.5. Ellis 1817-?; 1.6. Marjorie 1820-?; 1.7. Evan (1821-?); 1.8. Jane 1824-? Ellis and E. Williams (Elizabeth)s children : 1.1.1 Richard (1850-1922), Dolau, Llangernyw, married Grace, 7 children 1.1.2 Ellen, 1853 Ty Gwyn Uchaf ----- Esyllt / Phyllis (assumed children) 1.1.3 Robert, 1859, Dol Ifan 1.1.4 Margaret, 1862, Tal Diwot ------John Gwilym (not sure if husband or child, assume child) 1.1.5 Griffith 1867, Rhosgoch 1.1.6 Elis 1869, Cesarea, later Nel y Fron 1.1.7 Laura, 1875-1953 Tal Eithin, married Robert (surname ?) of Hafod Wen, 5 children Richard moved to Dolau Farm in Llangernyw, Denbs. (my gggrandfather) Children of Laura and Robert: Nel, Elizabeth, Gwilym, Robert, Ellis Richard (1.1.1) son then moved back into CAE to farm Pyllau on the Great Orme, Llandudno. Dewi _______________________________________________________ WEB.DE Video-Mail - Sagen Sie mehr mit bewegten Bildern Informationen unter: http://freemail.web.de/?mc=021199