It has been nearly two years since we last had a “list census”. In a list census ALL members of the list send a message to the list telling us: 1) Who you are and where you live (in general terms – Tony in London, England; rather than Mr A. W. Blair, 10 Downing Street, London SW1 1OA – for safety sake!) 2) What you already know about your Gwynedd family in as much detail as possible – if you have many family branches in the area please feel free to send more than one reply to this request. Put some “meat” on your details. “I’m looking for Jones in Caernarfon” won’t help other list members connect with your family but full details of which John Jones, born where, when, appeared in the census in which family etc – may help make a brake-through. 3) What you would most like to find out next about this family / these families. 4)1 Please send to the list address [email protected] and not me personally! 4. Adapt the subject line a from "List census" to, say "William Jones of Ty Mawr Llanbethma" Looking forward to a FULL, 196 member, response, Regards Alwyn List Administrator --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 06/08/2004

In response to Alwyn's request ... 1. Sam Thomas, THOMAS list Administrator at ROOTWEB, Atlanta, Georgia, USA 2. Principally, my interests are in the THOMAS family of Caernarfon, Wales before 1656 and the THOMAS family of Merioneth, Wales before 1683. These two families connected in the Maryland, Virginia and again in South Carolina colonies. Below is the research conducted thus far. The Vicar of Conway Parish, at the time of DORITHEE, DAIUDUS & HUGH THOMAS’ christening, was William Evans, 1607 to 1642. The Vicar was "presented by probably the Bishop of Bangor (?), under authority of Institutions at Bangor, Diocesan Registry, and tombstone in chancel, M.S. of institution very faded and illegible, following the Reformation." This Vicar succeeded John Brickdale, who died in 1607, following the 1597-1607 plague that nearly depopulated Conway. 8 December 1587 Baptized: “Thomas David fil davidi tayler./” (page 49) 9 December 1611 Baptized: “Dorithee Thomas filia Thomas David, Corvicer, 9 decem./” (page 95) 14 April 1614 Baptized: “Daiudus ap Thomas filius Thomas David Corvicer decimo quarto die Aprilis./” (page 98) 10 December 1615 Baptized: “Hugh Daiuds filius Thomas Daiud Corvicer undecimo die decembris./ 1615” (page 100) 22 October 1644: Thomas david 22° 8tlris sepult (page 137) NOTE: Would have been 56 years old or older. Reference: “The First Volume of the Parish Registers of Conway in the Rural Deanery of Arllechwedd, Diocese of Bangor, Caernarvonshire 1541-1793,” Rodney K. P. Neep, 2002 Archive CD Books. Subsequent extensive research failed to yield a marriage, child christening or burial record for either HUGH or DAIUIDUS ap THOMAS. However, a ship passenger list at Barbados depicts two (2) entries for a DAVIES THOMAS in 1635. Then, in 1656, both appear in the Charles Count Court Records in the Virginia colony to secure land for the person responsible for their transport to the colony. From this point forward, both are well documented in acquisition of land grants on the Northern Neck of the Virginia colony and in Charles County of the Maryland colony. The International Genealogy Index proved highly useful in locating all possible variants of names for DAVID and HUGH. The use of a “V” in lieu of the Welsh “U” probably results from recording by Latin or Italian-trained clerics and scribes. Another JOHN, HUGH & CADWALADER THOMAS line of Bala, Merioneth migrated to the Pennsylvania colony in 1683 with William Penn. This Welsh Quaker line accounts for many of the THOMASes in southeastern, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, northern Maryland and the 96th District of colonial South Carolina. Now some 300 plus years later, these THOMASes scattered from the original colonists to the every point on the compass, both inside and outside of the Americas. Other interests, would be: 1. what was the name of their mother, which is not listed on the record; 2. what the occupation of Corvicer is. The father, DAVIDI , is depicted as a "tayler". Both sons are listed as a Corvicer. From reference, it appear this might be a clothing or hat maker; 3. where did they live in the Conway parish; 4. who DORITHEE verch DAVIDI TAYLER married; and 5. what relation, if any, exists between the MERIONETH and CAERNAFON lines of the THOMAS families. Sam Thomas THOMAS list Administrator at ROOTWEB Atlanta, Georgia, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alwyn ap Huw" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 10:12 PM Subject: [CAE] List Census > It has been nearly two years since we last had a “list census”. > > In a list census ALL members of the list send a message to the list telling > us: > 1) Who you are and where you live (in general terms – Tony in London, > England; rather than Mr A. W. Blair, 10 Downing Street, London SW1 1OA – for > safety sake!) > 2) What you already know about your Gwynedd family in as much detail as > possible – if you have many family branches in the area please feel free to > send more than one reply to this request. Put some “meat” on your details. > “I’m looking for Jones in Caernarfon” won’t help other list members connect > with your family but full details of which John Jones, born where, when, > appeared in the census in which family etc – may help make a brake-through. > > 3) What you would most like to find out next about this family / these > families. > > 4)1 Please send to the list address > > [email protected] > > and not me personally! > > 4. Adapt the subject line a from "List census" to, say "William Jones of Ty > Mawr Llanbethma" > > Looking forward to a FULL, 196 member, response, > > Regards > > Alwyn > List Administrator > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 06/08/2004 > > > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon > This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and English are welcome > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >