Hi: This is it. No more coming. You now know as much as I do. EDWARD OWEN FAMILY 1792 , Aug. 19. Edward,S/O Robert Owen and Mary Holland Owen baptized in Llan Rhos. (Ed I) PR entry. 1813. April 30. Edward OWEN married Mary WILLIAMS , both o.t.p., in Llandrillo yn Rhos by banns withh consent of parents. Witnesses: Thomas Jones, John Hughes. Children of Edward (Ed 1) and Mary Owen: 1814 William - Jan. 16 (see separate section below ) (Wm 1) Troed y Bwlch,Llanrhos. 1816 John - March 3, Troed y Bwlch, Llanrhos - no information. 1818 Robert - May 17 , bapt. Pant-y-Ffynnon. Edward shown as Labourer - no information on Robert; 1821 Mary - July 1, parish of Llangwstenin - no information. 1826 Thomas - December 11 - Morfa, Llangwstenin - no information 1829 Mary Anna Nov. 29, (see below for future), Morfa, Llangwystennin . 1835 Jane (see below) (No record has been found of Jane’s baptism . (Possibly in chapel?) 1841 Census Nant-y-Gamar Edward Owen, Head ,45 (Ed 1) Mary Owen, 45 Mariana Owen, 11 (m. Joseph Hughes, builder - see below) Jane Owen, 6 (m. Elias Hughes and continued to live at Nant y Gamar Farm - see below) (Jane 1) Edward’s daughter Jane married Elias Hughes about 1855 but they did not take over the tenancy till after the death of Edward Owen. Elias Hughes was from Llangwstenin and was an agricultural worker/farmer. Jane died shortly after 1871 and Elias remarried Martha who was from the Bettws-y-Coed area. 1851 census: Nant y Gamar Farm Edward Owen, H, 56,Ag. Lab., Llandudno (Ed 1) Mary Owen, 60, Llandudno Jane Owen, Dtr. 13, Dressmaker, Llandudno (Jane 1) 1855 Mary Owen died at Nant-y-Gamar on April 3 of Dropsy. Age 63, wife of Edward Owen, AgLab. Present at death: Ellin Hobson, Nant y Gamar. Have cert. 1860 Maria Anna Owen, 29, d/o Edward Owen, gardener, m. Joseph HUGHES, 38, builder s/o Joseph Hughes, Builder by license in the Parish Church of Llandudno on April 17, 1860. Her address was GloddaethTerrace, his was Church Walks. Witnesses: Richard Jones, Anne Roberts. I have marriage certificate. She signs as Maria Anna Owen and is d/o Edward Owen, Gardener. 1861 census: Joseph Hughes, 38, stonemason, Ocean View 09, CAE 32 Mariana Hughes, 30, Ocean View 09, CAE55 ( d/o Edward (Ed 1) and Mary Owen) Anne Jones, 28, Servant,U,LIV/LAN 1861 census: Nant y Gamar Farm (Mary Williams Owen has died and dtr. Jane has married Elias Hughes.) Edward Owen, H, 66, Wid., Ag.Lab, Llandudno (Ed 1) Elias Hughes, S/law, 27, Ag.Lab, Llangwstenin Jane Hughes, Dtr, 26 , Llandudno (Jane 1) Mary Hughes, Granddaughter, 5, Llandudno Hugh Hughes, Grandson, 1, Llandudno Rebecca Williams, Servant, 16, Gen. Servant, Llandudno 1871 census: Nant y Gamar Farm Elias Hughes, labourer, 38, Llangwstenin Jane Hughes, 36, Llandudno (Jane 1) Mary Hughes, 15 “ Mary Hughes married John Edwards in 1880 at age 23. Children of Mary and John Edwards 1885 Helena Alice Helena married Harold Banks in Liverpool in 1911 and shortly emigrated to Melbourne, Australia Helena had a son who married and they had a son, John Banks, who now lives in Australia (Victoria) 1890 Albert John. Albert John is said to have died in the First World War Mary Hughes Edwards d.Dec. 30, 1891, age 36 Hugh Hughes, 11 “ Margaret Hughes, 9 1881 census: Nant y Gamar Farm (Jane Owen Hughes has died and Elias has remarried Martha) Elias Hughes, 47,farmer, Llangwstenin, d. 1915, Feb.11, 80 - Dean of Bethania Chapel Martha Hughes, 40,Penmachno, d. June 18, 1905 age 66 Hugh Hughes, 21, Gen.. Servant,Llandudno William Hughes, 6 Llandudno - moved to Castell y Gwyfryn Robert Hughes, 5 “ = died May 11, 1930, age 54 Owen Hughes, son, 3 “, died Feb. 11, 1955 age 77 (grandson is Ken Kyffin, Harrow) Elizabeth Hughes, dtr. 2, Llandudno Ellen Hughes, dtr. 1, Llandudno John Jones, Servant,, 29, Indoor serv. Abergerle BORN AFTER CENSUS: Annie, b. 1886, m. William Howard Thomas, d. 1970, 84 John , killed in 1914-18 war, age 26 1881, February 5. Mariana Owen Hughes (dtr. of Ed 1) died at the age of 51 and was buried in the churchyard of Capel Einion chapel, Glanwydden, Llangystennin, plot A 033. 1881: 1 East Parade Villa, Llandudno Jos. HUGHES, W, 58 M Llandudno, Head, Builder Contractor Farmer of 17 Acres Joseph B. Hughes, U, 19, Llandudno, Son, Joiner Mary Anne Hughes, U, 17, F, Llandudno, Dtr. House Keeper Edward R. Hughes, 15 M. Llandudno, Son, Painter John Hughes, 13, M, Llandudno, Son, Office Boy (Mess.) Samuel Gladstone Hughes, 12, Llandudno, Son, Scholar W. Alfred Hughes, 8, Llandudno, Son, Scholar 1904, Feb. 9, Joseph Hughes died at the age of 82 and was buried with his wife, Mariana at Capel Einion.. 1905, February 14, Mary Anne Hughes, dtr. of Mariana and Joseph Hughes, died at age 41 and was buried with her parents in Lot A033 at Capel Einion. WILLIAM OWEN - son of Edward and Mary (Williams) Owen (Wm. 1) 1839, November 2. William Owen, s/o Edward Owen of Nant y Gamar and Margaret Owen, d/o Edward Owen m. in the parish church of Landrilllo yn Rhos. Both were hired servants: He, Bwlch, Eglwys Rhos, She, Dinerth Isaf, Llandrillo parish.. Witnesses: John Owen and Sarah Davies. Both fathers were labourers. Have cert. (Margaret Owen was baptised August 28, 1814, d/o Edward and Margaret Owen of Fford. Parish of Llandrillo yn Rhos. Edward is a Labourer.) PR entry 1841 census Cae Ddiol , Eglwys Rhos William Owen, 25 (Wm. 1) Margaret, Edward, son, 1 (Ed 2) b. 22 April, 1840 1851 census shows: Pen-yr-Allt (or Nant y Gamar 3) William Owen ,39, Ag.Lab, CAE55 Margaret Owen, Wife , 34, DEN25 (Llandrillo yn Rhos) - d. Jan 24, 1867, age 61 Edward Owen, son, 10, CAE55 (Ed 2) Jane Owen, dtr.,8, CAE32 b. 1842-43 (Jane 2) (m. David Evans, below) Mary Owen, mother, Widow (Mary Owen d, 1855 at age 63). 1861 census shows: Pen yr Allt (Nant y Gamar 5) William Owen, 47, Ag.Lab, Llangwstenin (Wm 1) Margaret Owen,46, Llandrillo Edward Owen,21 Ag.Lab, Eglwysrhos(Ed 2) 1863, Sept. 2. Edward Owen (Ed 2), 23, Plasterer, Nant y Gamar, s/o William Owen, Labourer, m. Margaret Hughes, 21, domestic servant, Pen Mynydd, Llandudno, d/o John Hughes, Engineer, at Carmel Chapel, Conway, according to the rites and ceremonies of the Independents. Witnesses: Richard Roberts and Jane Thomas.. Had 12 children 1863, 5 December. Ed 2 and Margaret had son, Owen, who died 13 April, 1905 in Chicago. \ 1865. Ed 2 and Margaret had son, William, who died age 4 in 1869. Between 1861 and 1871 William and Margaret’s dtr. Jane Owen (Jane 2) married David Evans. Second cottage built at Pen yr Allt for them.. 1871 census shows: Pen yr Allt William Owens, 57, Labourer, Llanrhos Margaret Owens, 56, Llandrillo 1871 census shows a second cottage at Pen yr Allt occupied by : David Evans, 33, Stonemason , Llangernyw Jane Evans, 28, Llandudno (Jane Owen, Wm. & Margaret’s dtr., Jane 2) Hugh Thomas Evans, 6,Llandudno, Margaret E. Evans, 3, “ William O. Evans, 1, “ Edward Evans, 10 mos. “ 1871 census also shows: Nant y Gamar Cottage EDWARD OWENS, H. 30 PLASTERER, LLANDUDNO (SON OF WILLIAM, BRO. OF JANE EVANS,GRANDSON OF EDWARD 1 (ED 2) Margaret Owens, 29, Llandudno Owen Owens, son, 7 (see below) Edward Owens, son, 3 “ (Ed 3) b. 27 Dec. 1867, died at sea San Francisco Bay, 25 May,1901 William Owens, son, 1 “ b. 16 Sept. 1865, drowned in garden water tank, 22 June, 1869, age 3 (Wm 2) Edward Owens, Cousin, 24, M, Hse/Carpenter, Liverpool (now who’s this one?) 1876 - January 24, Margaret Owen, w/o William Owen died at age 61 of valvular disease of the heart, many years. Apoplexy - 4 days. certified by James Nicol. M.D.. Edward Owens, son, present at the death. Nant y Gamar, Llandudno] 1877 - December 13, William Owen, Wid. 63, of Pen rallt, Nant y Gamar, m. Bridget Carriey, 35, domestic servant, Parade Hotel, Church Walks, Llandudno, d/o Bryan Carriey, farmer at the Tabernacle Chapel, Conway. Present: Joseph Hughes, Sarah Anne Reeves. Have cert. 1881 census: William Owen, 67, car prop., Llandudno Bridget Owen, 37, Dublin 1881 census: Pen yr Allt David Evans, 44, Stonemason,Llandudno Jane Evans, 39, Llandudno (JANE 2) Huw Thomas Evans,16, Mason “ Margaret E. Evans, 14 William Owen Evans, 12 EdwardEvans, 11 Mary Jane Evans, 7 (m. Owen Evans) Suzannah Evans, 2 Sarah Anne Evans, 3 months . The Evans Family continued to live at Pen yr Allt. Tenancy passed to Owen Evans who married Mary Jane Evans, dtr. of David and Jane Owen Evans. 1881 census: Nant y Gamar Cottage Edward Owens, H, 40, Plasterer, Llandudno (ED 2) SON OF WM., GRANDSON OF EDWARD & MARY Margaret Owens, 39, Llandudno Owen Owens, 18 Labourer, (m.Dorothy Davies Dec. 24, 1884. They lived at 1 Craig-y-Don Cottages and had 3 children: Margaret, 17th Oct. 1886 (m.. Fred Bunby, Manchester. Aug. 1912) Children of Margaret and Frederick Bunby Robert Dorothy ) Frederick ) Mona (m. John Francis Hawes, had children: Brenda and Alan & a granddaughter, Karen, who lives in Australia ) Mabel (m. James McAinsh, 2 dtrs. Barbara and had daughter, Lynda, who m.. Christopher Couch) Gladys Edward, b . 2 Sept. 1888 (Ed 4) m. Elizabeth Jones, and had: Robert Stephen (m. Ivy Knibbs, had dtr. Doreen) Gordon (m. Phyllis May Edmunds and had: Norman Edward (m. Pamela Buckland, 2 sons: Roland Huw Edward and Tudor Matthew Rees) Vivienne Owen (m. Philip Vivian Carter 3 children: Alison, Judith, Jonathan) Edward (4) Killed in France in 1915 Stephen, b. 26 Dec. 1889 (possibly adopted) Edward Owens, 13 (Ed 3) William Owens, 11, b. 27 Dec. 1869. His mother was pregnant with him when his brother drowned. (Wm 2) Hu (gh) Owens, 9, b. 25 Dec. 1871, d. 4 April, 1892 age 20/21 Margaret Owens, 7 , b. 23 Nov. 1873, d. 19 May 1927, age 53 (m. T. H. Roberts, had son Thomas Charles, b. 1898-99) Jane Owens, 6 b. 25 Oct. 1875, d. 14 Mar.. 1962, age 86 (M. Hugh Hughes) (Jane 3) Mary Ellen Owens, 3 b. 3 Nov. 1877, d. 6 April 1901 age 23 Thomas, son, 1 b. 16 Oct. 1879 BORN AFTER CENSUS: Sarah Ann, around 1882 1883, 26 March Cordelia, who died July 18, 1893 age 10 from eating poisonous berries. 1886-1887, Marie 1891 census: Fern Cottage, Craig-y-Don William Owen, Head, 76, carriage proprietor, Llandudno Curry (sp?), Wife, 45 Ireland, Dublin Edward A. Hughes, Lodger, H., 25, House Painter, Llandudno Clara Hughes, Wife, 27, Llandudno Joseph Hughes, son, 6, Llandudno Clara A. Hughes, dtr, 4, Llandudno Clara (could be wrong), dtr., 5, Llandudno 1891 census: Nant-y-Gamar Edward Owen (Ed 2), Head, 50, Plasterer Margaret Owens, Wife, 47 Owen Owen, son25, Plasterer Hugh Owens, son, , age unreadable Thomas Owens, son, 10 Mary Ellen , dtr. 14 Sarah Ann, dtr. , 8 (death reg. found at age 9) Marie Owen, dtr. 4 (Jane and Cordelia gone) 1896 January 8. William Owen,78 (he lied he was 84), cab driver, Woodland House, Victoria Street, Llandudno, m. Ellen Williams, 52, widow, of Deganway, Llanrhos, d/o Thomas Thomas, dec., farmer and inn Keeper at the Register Office, Deganway. Witnesses: GW Post, T. Williams. (could be J. W. Post.) Have cert. 1901 census: Nant y Gamar Edward Owen, Head, 60, Plasterer Margaret Owens, 59, Wife Jane Owen, 25, dtr. Thomas Owen, son, 21 1901 census - William does not appear, but he should. He was living at 6 Council Street at the time of his death in 1902. 1902, Dec. 25 William Owen (Wm 1) died at age 88 of heart disease at 6 Council Street, Eglwys Rhos, a lodging house. Buried in Llanrhos cemetary according to MI, which gives death at age 78. His son, Edward (Ed 2) is said to be the informant. He is described as a cab driver and his residence is Nant y Gamar. Have cert. 1904 Margaret Owen died Feb. 9, age 63 (wife of Ed 2) 1910 Mary Jane Evans died, buried in Llanrhos 1913 Oct. 15. Edward Owen died (Ed 2) age 73 at Nant y Gamar cottage, Llandudno, of pulmonary congestion, senility and heart failure. Certified by T. V. Lockhart. Present at death, Hugh Hughes, son-in-law. Edward described as master plasterer. Have cert . Ed 2’s and Margaret’s daughter, Jane, continued living at the Cottage after her marriage to Hugh Hughes from Anglesey. .Hugh and Jane Owens Hughes had 3 daughters: Dorothy Hughes (m. John Roberts from Llandudno, who was employed by the District Council and had a dtr. named Cynthia. Margaret Hughes (m. Joseph Hobson of Bryn Goleu and moved there with her sister Mary Alice) Mary Alice Hughes There was a son, Edward Hughes, who died in 1917 AT AGE 7 1953 Hugh Hughes died, buried in Llanrhos 1962 Jane Hughes died, buried in Llanrhos Dottie Lutz, Philadelphia, USA