Mark, thank you sooooooo very much. It really fills the gap now. You are very kind to help me. Diolch Eleri ----- Original Message ----- From: <wls-caernarfonshire-request@rootsweb.com> To: <wls-caernarfonshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 6:01 AM Subject: WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 13 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Griffith's Crossing. (Keith Morris) > 2. Re: WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 11 (Mark Parry-Jones) > 3. Re: Griffith's Crossing. (Martin Briscoe) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:36:03 +0100 > From: "Keith Morris" <keith@morris5199.fsnet.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [CAE] Griffith's Crossing. > To: <wls-caernarfonshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002a01c6f3c6$98173610$6183293e@baby> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > The lady in question was 55 year old Catherine Evans, who was buried on > the > 27th. of May 1859, and who lived at Bangor Street Court. The note reads > "Killed at Griffith's Crossing in consequence of the Train having gone > over > her." > > Regards, > > Keith. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Megan Roberts" <welshladymegan@yahoo.co.uk> > To: <wls-caernarfonshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 5:55 PM > Subject: Re: [CAE] Griffith's Crossing. > > >> Slightly off subject, but ... Some years ago I was looking through the >> Llanbeblig Parish records when I saw a burial for a woman killed by a >> train at Griffith's Crossing, just about the time the line opened. The >> vicar had written in the margin a note to the effect that this was >> because >> she did not know what a railway was! >> >> Regards >> Megan > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:19:04 +0100 > From: "Mark Parry-Jones" <markparryjones@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [CAE] WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 11 > To: <wls-caernarfonshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BAY107-DAV24DE4457B0ECAA3A207BB0CF0C0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi again Eleri > > I'm pretty confidant that these are you peeps. > Different wife though which suggests that Gaynor was his second. You could > check the marriage certificate to see if he was a widower. Few more > sprogs > there for you too. If you notice Morris is mussing from the 81 but come > back > on the 91. Also if I recall Robert was a Sawyer on a couple of them and > morfa was mentioned again. > > UK Census Collection > 1871 Wales Census > Caernarvonshire > Llanbeblig > > District 7 > Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5720; Folio: 47; Page: 5; GSU roll: > 875590. > > Name: Robert Thomas > Age: 36 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 > Relation: Head > Spouse's name: Winefred > Gender: Male > Where born: Llanllyfni, Caernarvonshire, Wales > Civil Parish: Llanbeblig > County/Island: Caernarvonshire > Country: Wales > > Name: Winefred Thomas > Age: 36 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 > Relation: Wife > Spouse's name: Robert > Gender: Female > Where born: Llanllyfni, Caernarvonshire, Wales > Civil Parish: Llanbeblig > County/Island: Caernarvonshire > Country: Wales > > Evan Thomas 8 > Jane Ellin Thomas 11 months > Morris Thomas 6 > Richard Thomas 10 > Robert Thomas 15 > > Regards > > Mark > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eleri Rowlands" <eleri.rowlands@ntlworld.com> > To: <wls-caernarfonshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:17 PM > Subject: Re: [CAE] WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 11 > > >> Thank you so much both for helping me. I did have them on the 1881 but >> the >> 1871 and 1891 had eluded me. Anyone have the 1871? I'm being greedy now >> !!! >> Thank you again >> Eleri >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <wls-caernarfonshire-request@rootsweb.com> >> To: <wls-caernarfonshire@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:01 AM >> Subject: WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 11 >> >> >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. 1891 census (Eleri Rowlands) >>> 2. Re: 1891 census (Mark Parry-Jones) >>> 3. Re: 1891 census (Mark Parry-Jones) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:59:45 +0100 >>> From: "Eleri Rowlands" <eleri.rowlands@ntlworld.com> >>> Subject: [CAE] 1891 census >>> To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: <000e01c6f2c6$0e1bb0e0$57c20e52@gwyn4a706be217> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> Please can anyone help me find ROBERT THOMAS and his wife GAYNOR on the >>> 1891 census. >>> >>> I have the family on the 1901 census in Abergwyngregin. But Robert had >>> died by then. >>> The family lived for years in Glanmorfa, Llanbeblig, under Pont Seiont, >>> Caernarfon. So I'm not sure where they lived in 1891 nor whether Robert >>> was alive. It may be easier to find Gaynor who was born in Llanbeblig. >>> She >>> could have the children, Catherine A, Richard, Thomas H, John and Gaynor >>> with her. >>> Thanks >>> Eleri >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:01:07 +0100 >>> From: "Mark Parry-Jones" <markparryjones@hotmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [CAE] 1891 census >>> To: <wls-caernarfonshire@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: <BAY107-DAV57D495304F8E4DFB21A98CF0F0@phx.gbl> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> Do you have them is the 1881 Census? >>> >>> Found these in the 1881 >>> >>> Name: Gaynor Thomas >>> Age: 46 >>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 >>> Relation: Wife >>> Spouse's name: Robert >>> Gender: Female >>> Where born: Llanbeblig, Caernarvonshire, Wales >>> Civil Parish: Llanbeblig County/Island: Caernarvonshire Country: Wales >>> Street address: Glan Morfa >>> Condition as to marriage: Married >>> >>> Name: Robert Thomas Age: 46 >>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 >>> Relation: Head >>> Spouse's name: Gaynor >>> Gender: Male >>> Where born: Llangybi, Caernarvonshire, Wales >>> Civil Parish: Llanbeblig County/Island: Caernarvonshire Country: Wales >>> Street address: Glan Morfa >>> Condition as to marriage: Married >>> >>> Household Members: >>> >>> Catherine A Thomas 5 >>> Evan Thomas 18 >>> Griffith Thomas 7 >>> John Thomas 9 >>> Richard Thomas 20 >>> Thomas H Thomas 1 >>> >>> but could only find an Gaynor Thomas 'Inmate' in 1891 :( >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Eleri Rowlands" <eleri.rowlands@ntlworld.com> >>> To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:59 PM >>> Subject: [CAE] 1891 census >>> >>> >>>> Please can anyone help me find ROBERT THOMAS and his wife GAYNOR on the >>>> 1891 census. >>>> >>>> I have the family on the 1901 census in Abergwyngregin. But Robert had >>>> died by then. >>>> The family lived for years in Glanmorfa, Llanbeblig, under Pont Seiont, >>>> Caernarfon. So I'm not sure where they lived in 1891 nor whether Robert >>>> was alive. It may be easier to find Gaynor who was born in Llanbeblig. >>>> She >>>> could have the children, Catherine A, Richard, Thomas H, John and >>>> Gaynor >>>> with her. >>>> Thanks >>>> Eleri >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:37:19 +0100 >>> From: "Mark Parry-Jones" <markparryjones@hotmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [CAE] 1891 census >>> To: <wls-caernarfonshire@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: <BAY107-DAV24E02FBE681A1E63385C9DCF0F0@phx.gbl> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> Eleri, >>> >>> Success, still in Aber, it was the spouse name of Gregor that got me ha >>> ha. >>> >>> Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4667; Folio 119; Page 5; GSU roll: >>> 6099777. >>> UK Census Collection >1891 Wales Census > Caernarvonshire > Aber > >>> District >>> 16 >>> >>> Name: Robert Thomas >>> Age: 50 >>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 >>> Relation: Head >>> Spouse's name: Gregor >>> Gender: Male >>> Where born: Llanllyfni, Caernarvonshire, Wales >>> Civil Parish: Aber >>> Ecclesiastical parish: Aber >>> Town: Aber >>> County/Island: Caernarvonshire >>> Country: Wales >>> >>> Name: Gregor Thomas >>> Age: 56 >>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 >>> Relation: Wife >>> Spouse's name: Robert >>> Gender: Female >>> Where born: Llanllyfni, >>> Caernarvonshire, Wales >>> >>> Other household members >>> >>> Catherine Ann Thomas 15 >>> Gregor Thomas 56 >>> Griffith Thomas 17 >>> John Thomas 19 >>> Morris Thomas 26 >>> Richard Thomas 30 >>> Robert Thomas 50 >>> Thomas H Thomas 12 >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mark Parry-Jones" <markparryjones@hotmail.com> >>> To: <wls-caernarfonshire@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:01 PM >>> Subject: Re: [CAE] 1891 census >>> >>> >>>> Do you have them is the 1881 Census? >>>> >>>> Found these in the 1881 >>>> >>>> Name: Gaynor Thomas >>>> Age: 46 >>>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 >>>> Relation: Wife >>>> Spouse's name: Robert >>>> Gender: Female >>>> Where born: Llanbeblig, Caernarvonshire, Wales >>>> Civil Parish: Llanbeblig County/Island: Caernarvonshire Country: Wales >>>> Street address: Glan Morfa >>>> Condition as to marriage: Married >>>> >>>> Name: Robert Thomas Age: 46 >>>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 >>>> Relation: Head >>>> Spouse's name: Gaynor >>>> Gender: Male >>>> Where born: Llangybi, Caernarvonshire, Wales >>>> Civil Parish: Llanbeblig County/Island: Caernarvonshire Country: Wales >>>> Street address: Glan Morfa >>>> Condition as to marriage: Married >>>> >>>> Household Members: >>>> >>>> Catherine A Thomas 5 >>>> Evan Thomas 18 >>>> Griffith Thomas 7 >>>> John Thomas 9 >>>> Richard Thomas 20 >>>> Thomas H Thomas 1 >>>> >>>> but could only find an Gaynor Thomas 'Inmate' in 1891 :( >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Eleri Rowlands" <eleri.rowlands@ntlworld.com> >>>> To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:59 PM >>>> Subject: [CAE] 1891 census >>>> >>>> >>>>> Please can anyone help me find ROBERT THOMAS and his wife GAYNOR on >>>>> the >>>>> 1891 census. >>>>> >>>>> I have the family on the 1901 census in Abergwyngregin. But Robert had >>>>> died by then. >>>>> The family lived for years in Glanmorfa, Llanbeblig, under Pont >>>>> Seiont, >>>>> Caernarfon. So I'm not sure where they lived in 1891 nor whether >>>>> Robert >>>>> was alive. It may be easier to find Gaynor who was born in Llanbeblig. >>>>> She >>>>> could have the children, Catherine A, Richard, Thomas H, John and >>>>> Gaynor >>>>> with her. >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Eleri >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> To contact the WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE list administrator, send an email to >>> WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. >>> >>> To post a message to the WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE mailing list, send an email >>> to WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE@rootsweb.com. >>> >>> __________________________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >>> body >>> of the >>> email with no additional text. >>> >>> >>> End of WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 11 >>> ************************************************** >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:17:25 +0100 > From: "Martin Briscoe" <mbriscoe@zetnet.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [CAE] Griffith's Crossing. > To: "'Meirion Hughes'" <twmei@cofis.f9.co.uk>, > <wls-caernarfonshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000f01c6f3bb$98435020$647ba8c0@JMBG20> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Thanks, good to see that someone getting one up on the railways! > > > Martin Briscoe > Fort William > M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wls-caernarfonshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:wls-caernarfonshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Meirion > Hughes > Sent: 19 October 2006 14:24 > To: wls-caernarfonshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CAE] Griffith's Crossing. > > Hi Martin, > > The information you have been given by others is correct as you have now > gathered, but.you will no doubt be wondering how the crossing became to be > so named. > > When the railway line was extended from Bangor to Caernarfon (Caernarfon > Station opened in 1852), the company had to purchase land from a man > called > Griffiths and he sold it to the company on condition that when he used the > railway that there would be a Halt where the crossing used to be, and this > for his personal use. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE mailing list, send an email > to WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 13 > **************************************************