Hi, I am afraid that I cannot answer your query re Band Train, unless of course, it was the name of the Captain's ship. However, you are mistaken about TREFDRAETH being in Caernarfonshire, North Wales. Were you to put the name into a search engine, (GOOGLE) you would find that it is in North Pembrokeshire, South Wales, and the English name for the place is NEWPORT. Now North Pembroke is next to Carmarthenshire and there could be a clue here. Maybe a County Boundary change has occurred at some time. Not unheard of in Wales. T Meirion Hughes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracey" <traceyjones@unwired.com.au> To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 2:27 AM Subject: [CAE] Captain of Train Band > Hi, I also have a relative who was a tide waiter and thanks to recent > postings I now know what a tide waiter is which prompts me to ask ,what is > meant by Captain of Band Train which is listed as occupation of the father > of my tidewaiter both are named David Owen and are from > TrefeilirTrefdraeth > Caernarvonshire Wales. Prehaps someone could suggest where it would be > possible to look up these different occupations, > > Regards Tracey in Australia > > , > > _____ > > > > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Gwefan Cymdeithas Hanes Teuluoedd Gwynedd > Gwynedd Family History Society's Website > http://www.gwyneddfhs.org/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

( for some mysterious reason my first posting of this went direct to Mr Hughes only) Hello Tracey Whilst I do not dispute Mr Hughes' assertion that there is a Trefdraeth in Pembs etc I must point out that there is a parish of that name on Anglesey and the name Trefeilir appears there or thereabouts if you google Trefdraeth +Trefeilir or just Trefdraeth +Anglesey.Note the name Llangwyvan in the Genuki desc of the parish ( this name was bandied about at the begining of the thread I think) Insofar as Train Band is concerned I believe it to be an old military term ( militia etc) and a Google of "train band"+captain bears this out- some results that may be worthy of looking up to find out what it means etc. Hywyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meirion Hughes" <twmei@cofis.f9.co.uk> To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [CAE] Captain of Train Band > Hi, > > I am afraid that I cannot answer your query re Band Train, unless of > course, it was the name of the Captain's ship. However, you are mistaken > about TREFDRAETH being in Caernarfonshire, North Wales. Were you to put > the name into a search engine, (GOOGLE) you would find that it is in North > Pembrokeshire, South Wales, and the English name for the place is NEWPORT. > Now North Pembroke is next to Carmarthenshire and there could be a clue > here. Maybe a County Boundary change has occurred at some time. Not > unheard of in Wales. > > T Meirion Hughes > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tracey" <traceyjones@unwired.com.au> > To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 2:27 AM > Subject: [CAE] Captain of Train Band > > >> Hi, I also have a relative who was a tide waiter and thanks to recent >> postings I now know what a tide waiter is which prompts me to ask ,what >> is >> meant by Captain of Band Train which is listed as occupation of the >> father >> of my tidewaiter both are named David Owen and are from >> TrefeilirTrefdraeth >> Caernarvonshire Wales. Prehaps someone could suggest where it would be >> possible to look up these different occupations, >> >> Regards Tracey in Australia >> >> , >> >> _____ >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Gwefan Cymdeithas Hanes Teuluoedd Gwynedd >> Gwynedd Family History Society's Website >> http://www.gwyneddfhs.org/ >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Rhagorol - online Gwynedd Archive > http://www.gwynedd.gov.uk/adrannau/addysg/archifau/Rhagorol/cgi-bin/browse_archive.pl > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/361 - Release Date: 11/06/2006 > >

I think my good friend T. Meirion Hughes is forgetting the parish of Trefdraeth in Anglesey! The parish borders on Llangwyfan parish on the coast, as was mentioned in an earlier query. Incidentally, my great-aunt was a housemaid at Trefeilir, Trefdraeth. Regards, David Price, Bangor. (Cofion cynnes, Meirion) -----Original Message----- From: Meirion Hughes [mailto:twmei@cofis.f9.co.uk] Sent: 13 June 2006 09:13 To: WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAE] Captain of Train Band Hi, I am afraid that I cannot answer your query re Band Train, unless of course, it was the name of the Captain's ship. However, you are mistaken about TREFDRAETH being in Caernarfonshire, North Wales. Were you to put the name into a search engine, (GOOGLE) you would find that it is in North Pembrokeshire, South Wales, and the English name for the place is NEWPORT. Now North Pembroke is next to Carmarthenshire and there could be a clue here. Maybe a County Boundary change has occurred at some time. Not unheard of in Wales. T Meirion Hughes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracey" <traceyjones@unwired.com.au> To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 2:27 AM Subject: [CAE] Captain of Train Band > Hi, I also have a relative who was a tide waiter and thanks to recent > postings I now know what a tide waiter is which prompts me to ask ,what is > meant by Captain of Band Train which is listed as occupation of the father > of my tidewaiter both are named David Owen and are from > TrefeilirTrefdraeth > Caernarvonshire Wales. Prehaps someone could suggest where it would be > possible to look up these different occupations, > > Regards Tracey in Australia > > , > > _____ > > > > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Gwefan Cymdeithas Hanes Teuluoedd Gwynedd > Gwynedd Family History Society's Website > http://www.gwyneddfhs.org/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > ______________________________