In a message dated 14/03/2006 08:14:58 GMT Standard Time, joscyn@hotmail.com writes: Dear list, I seem to remember there being a URL to which we can point new members regarding patronymics and the old list debate about "Welsh naming patterns" about which we seem to have decided that patterns can't be relied upon but do exist. Could someone point the new members to any site with more information? Ian London SW9 Hi, I have found a few interesting sites on this subject by going to Google (UK area) and entering:- Welsh Patronymics. Judith