In a message dated 09/03/2006 22:00:40 GMT Standard Time, mpalik@aol.com writes: Bryncroes Hello The family are in Bryncroes in 1871. Robert gives his place of birth as Llaniestyn. They are at the same abode in 1861 with the eldest child given as Catherine. I can send you the images off list if you haven't got them Regards Maggi (Blythin)