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    1. [CAE] Welsh Cultural History
    2. peter lister
    3. Hello, We have used this site a few times and really enjoy finding out more each time. As ever, it could be that you all know it but if not here is a link: "Welcome to Gathering the Jewels. Here you will find over 20,000 images of objects, books, letters, aerial photographs and other items from museums, libraries and record offices in Wales." http://www.gtj.org.uk/en/index

    03/08/2006 12:52:59
    1. Thomas Hughes, Gatehouse Llanllechid
    2. Dear Listers Seeking information on Thomas Hughes b 1859, Miller, of Gatehouse, Llanllechid parish as recorded in census information up to and including 1901. Any information or possible sources of info for the C20th would be greatly appreciated. Married to Jane of Llangristiolus and children were Thomas, Robert, William, Owen and Richard. Many thanks Jude

    03/08/2006 10:42:54
    1. [CAE] The Welsh in London
    2. peter lister
    3. Dear All, We have only just found this interesting book - it could be that you know it! But if not here are the details, All the best, Peter Title The Welsh in London 1500-2000 ISBN 0708316972 Category HIS:GB Editor/Related Name Jones, Emrys, 1920- Physical Description 273p., ill., 24 cm Format: Paperback Subject London - history Subject Welsh Summary note This text examines how the Welsh became absorbed into London's population yet retained aspects of Welsh culture from language to Eisteddfod, through societies. It begins with the earliest contacts with the Welsh in Tudor London.

    03/07/2006 11:00:02
    1. Re: ATB: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages--Lloyd
    2. Hi Gwen, You probably have these as well. They come under burials at Dolwyddelan. Catherine, daughter of Ellis Morgan of Pentre, Baker and Ellin his wife was buried 25th day of January 1748. Margaret Ellis Morgan of Pentre was buried January 22 1777. Rowland Morgan of Rhiwgoch, pauper was buried 6th of March 1793. Dolwyddelan in those days was split into two small hamlets, one named Pentre Bont (The village of the bridge), and the other named Pentre Felin (The village of the Mill). This would make a lot of sense, being that Ellis Morgan was classed as a baker. There is a house in that area even now called Pen y Cafnau, which when translated means head of the launders. These launders were the means of getting the water to the waterwheel, to power the mill. Happy hunting Bill Jones

    03/06/2006 09:52:29
    1. Re: ATB: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages--Lloyd
    2. Gwen Cunningham
    3. on 3/6/06 4:35 AM, WTJ831509@aol.com at WTJ831509@aol.com wrote: Bill,Thanks for sending me the entries. I do have the children of Ellis Morgan and his wife Ellin but I missed the entry for Pierce Morgan. I wonder if Pierce and Ellis are related, perhaps brothers. Thanks again for your time and interest, I'll check Pierce out. Gwen > Hi Gwen > > These may be of interest to you. I have left out what is not clear. > > Margaret, daughter of Ellis Morgan and ----- his wife was Christened on the > 6 day of April 1738. > > ......n, daughter of Ellis Morgan and Ellin his wife was Christened the -- > ----- 1741. > > Morgan, son of Pierce Morgan and Jane Ferch Robert? was christened the 27th > day of March, 1740. > > Catherine, daughter of Ellis Morgan and Ellin his wife was Christened the 22 > day of August 1749. > > Happy hunting > > Bill Jones > > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon > This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and English > are welcome > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

    03/06/2006 01:31:52
    1. Re: ATB: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages--Lloyd
    2. Hi Gwen These may be of interest to you. I have left out what is not clear. Margaret, daughter of Ellis Morgan and ----- his wife was Christened on the 6 day of April 1738. ......n, daughter of Ellis Morgan and Ellin his wife was Christened the -- ----- 1741. Morgan, son of Pierce Morgan and Jane Ferch Robert? was christened the 27th day of March, 1740. Catherine, daughter of Ellis Morgan and Ellin his wife was Christened the 22 day of August 1749. Happy hunting Bill Jones

    03/05/2006 09:35:37
    1. ATB: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages--Lloyd
    2. Alwyn ap Huw
    3. The BT's for Trawsfynydd 1727 are not very clear. The liittle I can make out of the entry for Ellis Morgan & Ellin's marriage says: ...is Morgan De Llandekwyn & Elina Williams Do Trawsfynydd ... matrimonia (bannis prius Editis) Conjuncti f.... 26 Die Deceembris. The original parish registers are in Dolgellau Archive office, these may be clearer and may contain more information than the BTs. All the best Alwyn -----Neges Wreiddiol-----/-----Original Message----- Oddi wrth/From: Gwen Cunningham [mailto:gwenny@snet.net] Anfonwyd/Sent: 05 March 2006 14:18 At/To: WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Pwnc/Subject: Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages--Lloyd on 3/5/06 3:53 AM, WTJ831509@aol.com at WTJ831509@aol.com wrote: Hi Bill, This is Gwen in Connecticut. I am researching the line of Ellis Morgan who was married in 1727 and started having children in 1728. His first child William Ellis was baptised in 1728. William was married in 1753 to Jane verch Richard. They had a daughter Margaret in 1769 and she married Owen Evans of Tynddol, Festiniog. Through the Dafydd Hayes marriage index I got a reference for the marriage of Ellis Morgan and his wife Ellin in the Parish of Trawsfynydd. So, I am eagerly awaiting the microfilm of the BTs of that parish to have a look! Do you know if there are monumental inscriptions available for Dolwyddelan? Thanks, Gwen -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 03/03/2006

    03/05/2006 04:49:07
    1. Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages--Lloyd
    2. Gwen, You are good! That's for this and for Sara's name. I really hope you make good headway with your search for all the good you are doing for others. As we are both on this side of the pond, I guess we both have to rely on the goodness of others. I'm in Pennsylvania & see you are from Connecticut. Thanks Jane Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gwen Cunningham" <gwenny@snet.net> To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages--Lloyd > on 3/5/06 6:28 PM, jeozsisme@peoplepc.com at jeozsisme@peoplepc.com wrote: > Jane Ellen, > > More food for thought from Dolwyddelan BTs: > > Owen Lloyd & Marg't Hughes both of the parish of Dolwyddelan were married > May 31st 1790. > > Ellis Lloyd & Mary Richard both of this parish by licence June 11, 1791. > > Ellis Roberts singleman & Elinor Lloyd spinster both of this parish were > married by Banns May 23rd 1796 > > Griffith Roberts singleman & Elisabeth Lloyd spinster both of this parish > were married by License Feb'ry 24, 1796. >> Hi Bill, >> Just a question, please. >> Did the daughter baptised 1 September 1771 have a name listed or just >> daughter? >> Thanks >> Jane Ellen >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gwen Cunningham" <gwenny@snet.net> >> To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:17 AM >> Subject: Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages--Lloyd >> >> >>> on 3/5/06 3:53 AM, WTJ831509@aol.com at WTJ831509@aol.com wrote: >>> Hi Bill, This is Gwen in Connecticut. I am researching the line of Ellis >>> Morgan who was married in 1727 and started having children in 1728. His >>> first child William Ellis was baptised in 1728. William was married in >>> 1753 >>> to Jane verch Richard. They had a daughter Margaret in 1769 and she >>> married >>> Owen Evans of Tynddol, Festiniog. >>> Through the Dafydd Hayes marriage index I got a reference for the >>> marriage >>> of Ellis Morgan and his wife Ellin in the Parish of Trawsfynydd. So, I >>> am >>> eagerly awaiting the microfilm of the BTs of that parish to have a look! >>> Do >>> you know if there are monumental inscriptions available for Dolwyddelan? >>> Thanks, >>> Gwen >>>> Hi Jane Ellen >>>> I can confirm what Gwen said in her e-mail to you about the marriage >>>> of >>>> Richard Lloyd and Jane Owen. And may be able to add >>>> ....... daughter of Richard Lloyd of Bryn Mwllach, Lab; by Jane his >>>> wife >>>> was >>>> baptised 1st day of September 1771. >>>> Richard son of Richard Lloyd of Bryn Mwllach, Mason, by Jane his wife >>>> was >>>> baptised 13th of December 1775. >>>> Robert son of Richard Lloyd of Gelli, yeom; by Jane his wife was >>>> baptised >>>> the 12th of February 1781. >>>> Did Gwen have any family in Dolwyddelan? >>>> Happy hunting >>>> Bill Jones >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>> Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon >>>> This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and >>>> English >>>> are welcome >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>>> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>>> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >>>> >>> >>> >>> ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru The National Library of Wales. Aberystwyth. >>> www.llgc.org.uk/ >>> holi@llgc.org.uk >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >> >> >> ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru The National Library of Wales. Aberystwyth. >> www.llgc.org.uk/ >> holi@llgc.org.uk >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru The National Library of Wales. Aberystwyth. > www.llgc.org.uk/ > holi@llgc.org.uk > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

    03/05/2006 02:22:58
    1. Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages--Lloyd
    2. Gwen Cunningham
    3. on 3/5/06 6:28 PM, jeozsisme@peoplepc.com at jeozsisme@peoplepc.com wrote: Jane Ellen, More food for thought from Dolwyddelan BTs: Owen Lloyd & Marg't Hughes both of the parish of Dolwyddelan were married May 31st 1790. Ellis Lloyd & Mary Richard both of this parish by licence June 11, 1791. Ellis Roberts singleman & Elinor Lloyd spinster both of this parish were married by Banns May 23rd 1796 Griffith Roberts singleman & Elisabeth Lloyd spinster both of this parish were married by License Feb'ry 24, 1796. > Hi Bill, > Just a question, please. > Did the daughter baptised 1 September 1771 have a name listed or just > daughter? > Thanks > Jane Ellen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gwen Cunningham" <gwenny@snet.net> > To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:17 AM > Subject: Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages--Lloyd > > >> on 3/5/06 3:53 AM, WTJ831509@aol.com at WTJ831509@aol.com wrote: >> Hi Bill, This is Gwen in Connecticut. I am researching the line of Ellis >> Morgan who was married in 1727 and started having children in 1728. His >> first child William Ellis was baptised in 1728. William was married in >> 1753 >> to Jane verch Richard. They had a daughter Margaret in 1769 and she >> married >> Owen Evans of Tynddol, Festiniog. >> Through the Dafydd Hayes marriage index I got a reference for the marriage >> of Ellis Morgan and his wife Ellin in the Parish of Trawsfynydd. So, I am >> eagerly awaiting the microfilm of the BTs of that parish to have a look! >> Do >> you know if there are monumental inscriptions available for Dolwyddelan? >> Thanks, >> Gwen >>> Hi Jane Ellen >>> I can confirm what Gwen said in her e-mail to you about the marriage of >>> Richard Lloyd and Jane Owen. And may be able to add >>> ....... daughter of Richard Lloyd of Bryn Mwllach, Lab; by Jane his wife >>> was >>> baptised 1st day of September 1771. >>> Richard son of Richard Lloyd of Bryn Mwllach, Mason, by Jane his wife >>> was >>> baptised 13th of December 1775. >>> Robert son of Richard Lloyd of Gelli, yeom; by Jane his wife was >>> baptised >>> the 12th of February 1781. >>> Did Gwen have any family in Dolwyddelan? >>> Happy hunting >>> Bill Jones >>> >>> >>> ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon >>> This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and >>> English >>> are welcome >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >>> >> >> >> ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru The National Library of Wales. Aberystwyth. >> www.llgc.org.uk/ >> holi@llgc.org.uk >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru The National Library of Wales. Aberystwyth. > www.llgc.org.uk/ > holi@llgc.org.uk > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

    03/05/2006 01:09:42
    1. Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages--Lloyd
    2. Gwen Cunningham
    3. on 3/5/06 6:28 PM, jeozsisme@peoplepc.com at jeozsisme@peoplepc.com wrote: Jane Ellen, Her name appears to me to be Sara, but it is difficult to see. Gwen > Hi Bill, > Just a question, please. > Did the daughter baptised 1 September 1771 have a name listed or just > daughter? > Thanks > Jane Ellen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gwen Cunningham" <gwenny@snet.net> > To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:17 AM > Subject: Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages--Lloyd > > >> on 3/5/06 3:53 AM, WTJ831509@aol.com at WTJ831509@aol.com wrote: >> Hi Bill, This is Gwen in Connecticut. I am researching the line of Ellis >> Morgan who was married in 1727 and started having children in 1728. His >> first child William Ellis was baptised in 1728. William was married in >> 1753 >> to Jane verch Richard. They had a daughter Margaret in 1769 and she >> married >> Owen Evans of Tynddol, Festiniog. >> Through the Dafydd Hayes marriage index I got a reference for the marriage >> of Ellis Morgan and his wife Ellin in the Parish of Trawsfynydd. So, I am >> eagerly awaiting the microfilm of the BTs of that parish to have a look! >> Do >> you know if there are monumental inscriptions available for Dolwyddelan? >> Thanks, >> Gwen >>> Hi Jane Ellen >>> I can confirm what Gwen said in her e-mail to you about the marriage of >>> Richard Lloyd and Jane Owen. And may be able to add >>> ....... daughter of Richard Lloyd of Bryn Mwllach, Lab; by Jane his wife >>> was >>> baptised 1st day of September 1771. >>> Richard son of Richard Lloyd of Bryn Mwllach, Mason, by Jane his wife >>> was >>> baptised 13th of December 1775. >>> Robert son of Richard Lloyd of Gelli, yeom; by Jane his wife was >>> baptised >>> the 12th of February 1781. >>> Did Gwen have any family in Dolwyddelan? >>> Happy hunting >>> Bill Jones >>> >>> >>> ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon >>> This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and >>> English >>> are welcome >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >>> >> >> >> ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru The National Library of Wales. Aberystwyth. >> www.llgc.org.uk/ >> holi@llgc.org.uk >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru The National Library of Wales. Aberystwyth. > www.llgc.org.uk/ > holi@llgc.org.uk > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

    03/05/2006 12:39:23
    1. Re: ATB: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages--Lloyd
    2. Gwen Cunningham
    3. on 3/5/06 6:49 PM, Alwyn ap Huw at alwynaphuw@dsl.pipex.com wrote: Alwyn, Thanks for the entry! The condition of the registers and transcripts can be so frustrating when they are faded and torn. Sometimes if I make the copy darker on the reader/printer I can make out the entries a little better. I'll definitely check with the Dolgellau Archive Office. Thanks for your time and help! Gwen > The BT's for Trawsfynydd 1727 are not very clear. The liittle I can make out > of the entry for Ellis Morgan & Ellin's marriage says: > > ...is Morgan De Llandekwyn & Elina Williams Do Trawsfynydd ... matrimonia > (bannis prius Editis) Conjuncti f.... 26 Die Deceembris. > > The original parish registers are in Dolgellau Archive office, these may be > clearer and may contain more information than the BTs. > > All the best > > Alwyn > > -----Neges Wreiddiol-----/-----Original Message----- > Oddi wrth/From: Gwen Cunningham [mailto:gwenny@snet.net] > Anfonwyd/Sent: 05 March 2006 14:18 > At/To: WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Pwnc/Subject: Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages--Lloyd > > on 3/5/06 3:53 AM, WTJ831509@aol.com at WTJ831509@aol.com wrote: > Hi Bill, This is Gwen in Connecticut. I am researching the line of Ellis > Morgan who was married in 1727 and started having children in 1728. His > first child William Ellis was baptised in 1728. William was married in 1753 > to Jane verch Richard. They had a daughter Margaret in 1769 and she married > Owen Evans of Tynddol, Festiniog. > Through the Dafydd Hayes marriage index I got a reference for the marriage > of Ellis Morgan and his wife Ellin in the Parish of Trawsfynydd. So, I am > eagerly awaiting the microfilm of the BTs of that parish to have a look! Do > you know if there are monumental inscriptions available for Dolwyddelan? > Thanks, > Gwen

    03/05/2006 12:33:22
    1. Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages--Lloyd
    2. Hi Bill, Just a question, please. Did the daughter baptised 1 September 1771 have a name listed or just daughter? Thanks Jane Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gwen Cunningham" <gwenny@snet.net> To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages--Lloyd > on 3/5/06 3:53 AM, WTJ831509@aol.com at WTJ831509@aol.com wrote: > Hi Bill, This is Gwen in Connecticut. I am researching the line of Ellis > Morgan who was married in 1727 and started having children in 1728. His > first child William Ellis was baptised in 1728. William was married in > 1753 > to Jane verch Richard. They had a daughter Margaret in 1769 and she > married > Owen Evans of Tynddol, Festiniog. > Through the Dafydd Hayes marriage index I got a reference for the marriage > of Ellis Morgan and his wife Ellin in the Parish of Trawsfynydd. So, I am > eagerly awaiting the microfilm of the BTs of that parish to have a look! > Do > you know if there are monumental inscriptions available for Dolwyddelan? > Thanks, > Gwen >> Hi Jane Ellen >> I can confirm what Gwen said in her e-mail to you about the marriage of >> Richard Lloyd and Jane Owen. And may be able to add >> ....... daughter of Richard Lloyd of Bryn Mwllach, Lab; by Jane his wife >> was >> baptised 1st day of September 1771. >> Richard son of Richard Lloyd of Bryn Mwllach, Mason, by Jane his wife >> was >> baptised 13th of December 1775. >> Robert son of Richard Lloyd of Gelli, yeom; by Jane his wife was >> baptised >> the 12th of February 1781. >> Did Gwen have any family in Dolwyddelan? >> Happy hunting >> Bill Jones >> >> >> ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon >> This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and >> English >> are welcome >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru The National Library of Wales. Aberystwyth. > www.llgc.org.uk/ > holi@llgc.org.uk > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

    03/05/2006 11:28:47
    1. RE: Penrhos, Bangor
    2. David Price
    3. The area of Penrhosgarnedd, on the western outskirts of Bangor, is generally referred to as Penrhos. There is an Anglican church, St. Peter's (established 1878. rebuilt 1956-7), a CM chapel, Capel y Graig (1860s?), and a primary school, Vaynol [Faenol], (established early 19th-cent). The area was in the parish of Bangor, but since 1888 has been in the civil parish of Pentir. The first place to look for graves of Penrhos folk is Pentir (both graveyards recorded and published by GFHS). Regards, David Price, Bangor. -----Original Message----- From: raymond west johnson [mailto:westjohns@rayjay.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: 04 March 2006 15:35 To: WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Penrhos, Bangor Hi List, Is Penrhos a locally used abbreviation for Penrhosgarnedd or are they two different areas of Bangor? Happy burrowing, Raymond ______________________________

    03/05/2006 04:38:00
    1. Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages--Lloyd
    2. Jane Ellen
    3. Hi Bill, Thank you very much for the information that you provided. I am thrilled with all the help I've been receiving. I honestly don't know if Gwen has family in Dolwyddelan. Thanks again Jane Ellen -----Original Message----- >From: WTJ831509@aol.com >Sent: Mar 5, 2006 3:53 AM >To: WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages--Lloyd > >Hi Jane Ellen > I can confirm what Gwen said in her e-mail to you about the marriage of >Richard Lloyd and Jane Owen. And may be able to add >....... daughter of Richard Lloyd of Bryn Mwllach, Lab; by Jane his wife was >baptised 1st day of September 1771. >Richard son of Richard Lloyd of Bryn Mwllach, Mason, by Jane his wife was >baptised 13th of December 1775. >Robert son of Richard Lloyd of Gelli, yeom; by Jane his wife was baptised >the 12th of February 1781. > Did Gwen have any family in Dolwyddelan? > Happy hunting > Bill Jones > > >==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== >Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon >This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and English are welcome > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

    03/05/2006 03:36:54
    1. Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages--Lloyd
    2. Gwen Cunningham
    3. on 3/5/06 3:53 AM, WTJ831509@aol.com at WTJ831509@aol.com wrote: Hi Bill, This is Gwen in Connecticut. I am researching the line of Ellis Morgan who was married in 1727 and started having children in 1728. His first child William Ellis was baptised in 1728. William was married in 1753 to Jane verch Richard. They had a daughter Margaret in 1769 and she married Owen Evans of Tynddol, Festiniog. Through the Dafydd Hayes marriage index I got a reference for the marriage of Ellis Morgan and his wife Ellin in the Parish of Trawsfynydd. So, I am eagerly awaiting the microfilm of the BTs of that parish to have a look! Do you know if there are monumental inscriptions available for Dolwyddelan? Thanks, Gwen > Hi Jane Ellen > I can confirm what Gwen said in her e-mail to you about the marriage of > Richard Lloyd and Jane Owen. And may be able to add > ....... daughter of Richard Lloyd of Bryn Mwllach, Lab; by Jane his wife was > baptised 1st day of September 1771. > Richard son of Richard Lloyd of Bryn Mwllach, Mason, by Jane his wife was > baptised 13th of December 1775. > Robert son of Richard Lloyd of Gelli, yeom; by Jane his wife was baptised > the 12th of February 1781. > Did Gwen have any family in Dolwyddelan? > Happy hunting > Bill Jones > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon > This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and English > are welcome > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

    03/05/2006 02:17:52
    1. Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages--Lloyd
    2. Hi Jane Ellen I can confirm what Gwen said in her e-mail to you about the marriage of Richard Lloyd and Jane Owen. And may be able to add ....... daughter of Richard Lloyd of Bryn Mwllach, Lab; by Jane his wife was baptised 1st day of September 1771. Richard son of Richard Lloyd of Bryn Mwllach, Mason, by Jane his wife was baptised 13th of December 1775. Robert son of Richard Lloyd of Gelli, yeom; by Jane his wife was baptised the 12th of February 1781. Did Gwen have any family in Dolwyddelan? Happy hunting Bill Jones

    03/04/2006 08:53:25
    1. Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages
    2. Thank you ------again! You have helped me so much. I sincerely appreciate the information. I was able to look up some things on BMD and sent for a certificate today because of your help. I will be most grateful for anything you may come across. Jane Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gwen Cunningham" <gwenny@snet.net> To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages > on 3/4/06 10:01 AM, jeozsisme@peoplepc.com at jeozsisme@peoplepc.com > wrote: > Jane Ellen, > I was looking through the BTS of Dolwyddelan and found this: > Richard Lloyd of the parish of Penmachno and Jane Owen of this parish both > upward of 21 years were married by banns the 13th of November 1761. > Also > Owen son of Richard Lloyd of Bryn y Mwllach, lab'r, by Jane his wife was > baptised the 7th of August 1766. > There are not many Lloyds in the early records but it looks as if you'll > be > heading for Penmachno once you have made the connection back to Richard > and > Jane. > Good luck, > Gwen >> Thank you Gwen. >> Jane Ellen >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gwen Cunningham" <gwenny@snet.net> >> To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 5:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages >> >> >>> on 3/2/06 1:34 PM, jeozsisme@peoplepc.com at jeozsisme@peoplepc.com >>> wrote: >>> Jane Ellen, >>> The only baptismal entry I found in the Dolwyddelan BTs was for a John, >>> son >>> of Owen and Mary Lloyd abode Dola on December 31, 1881. Owen was a >>> quarryman. All of the dates you listed are within the time span of civil >>> registration so ordering a birth cert. from the General Register Office >>> online would be your best bet. >>> Good luck, >>> Gwen >>>> Hi Gwen, >>>> I am estimating these d.o.b. >>>> Owen----------1839-------born Dolwyddelan >>>> Mary-----------1845------Maentwrog, Merioneth >>>> Richard--------1864 (my great grandfather) >>>> William--------1866 >>>> Jane-----------1872 >>>> Anne-----------1874 >>>> Robert---------1876 >>>> Owen----------1880 >>>> All children were born in Dolwyddelan, Caernarvon, Wales same as father >>>> Owen >>>> >>>> Thank you very much for anything you may be able to provide. I'm >>>> getting >>>> desprate here. >>>> Jane Ellen >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Gwen Cunningham" <gwenny@snet.net> >>>> To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 8:47 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages >>>> >>>> >>>>> on 2/19/06 6:54 PM, jeozsisme@peoplepc.com at jeozsisme@peoplepc.com >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Jane Ellen, In what years are you looking for baptisms in Dolwyddelan? >>>>> Gwen Cunningham >>>>> Connecticut >>>>>> Hi Bill, >>>>>> May I impose and ask if you've come across any Lloyd names in your >>>>>> researching Dolwyddelan? >>>>>> Richard, Owen ? >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Jane Ellen >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: <WTJ831509@aol.com> >>>>>> To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 7:16 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Michelle >>>>>>> Came across this while I was researching to the old houses in and >>>>>>> around >>>>>>> Dolwyddelan. >>>>>>> Hugh son of Owen Williams, Coytmor, Lab; by Magdalen his wife was >>>>>>> baptised >>>>>>> 19th February 1757. >>>>>>> I hope it is of interest to you >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Bill Jones. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>>>> Gwynedd Family History Society >>>>>>> www.gwynedd.fsbusiness.co.uk/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ============================== >>>>>>> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >>>>>>> ancestors >>>>>>> at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn >>>>>>> more: >>>>>>> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599 >>>>>>> &t >>>>>>> ar >>>>>>> getid=5429 >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>>> Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon >>>>>> This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh >>>>>> and >>>>>> English >>>>>> are welcome >>>>>> >>>>>> ============================== >>>>>> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and >>>>>> the >>>>>> areas they lived. 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Learn more: >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >>>> >>> >>> >>> ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon >>> This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and >>> English are welcome >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >> >> >> ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon >> This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and >> English >> are welcome >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. 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    03/04/2006 01:29:42
    1. Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages
    2. Gwen Cunningham
    3. on 3/4/06 10:01 AM, jeozsisme@peoplepc.com at jeozsisme@peoplepc.com wrote: Jane Ellen, I was looking through the BTS of Dolwyddelan and found this: Richard Lloyd of the parish of Penmachno and Jane Owen of this parish both upward of 21 years were married by banns the 13th of November 1761. Also Owen son of Richard Lloyd of Bryn y Mwllach, lab'r, by Jane his wife was baptised the 7th of August 1766. There are not many Lloyds in the early records but it looks as if you'll be heading for Penmachno once you have made the connection back to Richard and Jane. Good luck, Gwen > Thank you Gwen. > Jane Ellen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gwen Cunningham" <gwenny@snet.net> > To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 5:09 PM > Subject: Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages > > >> on 3/2/06 1:34 PM, jeozsisme@peoplepc.com at jeozsisme@peoplepc.com wrote: >> Jane Ellen, >> The only baptismal entry I found in the Dolwyddelan BTs was for a John, >> son >> of Owen and Mary Lloyd abode Dola on December 31, 1881. Owen was a >> quarryman. All of the dates you listed are within the time span of civil >> registration so ordering a birth cert. from the General Register Office >> online would be your best bet. >> Good luck, >> Gwen >>> Hi Gwen, >>> I am estimating these d.o.b. >>> Owen----------1839-------born Dolwyddelan >>> Mary-----------1845------Maentwrog, Merioneth >>> Richard--------1864 (my great grandfather) >>> William--------1866 >>> Jane-----------1872 >>> Anne-----------1874 >>> Robert---------1876 >>> Owen----------1880 >>> All children were born in Dolwyddelan, Caernarvon, Wales same as father >>> Owen >>> >>> Thank you very much for anything you may be able to provide. I'm getting >>> desprate here. >>> Jane Ellen >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Gwen Cunningham" <gwenny@snet.net> >>> To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 8:47 PM >>> Subject: Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages >>> >>> >>>> on 2/19/06 6:54 PM, jeozsisme@peoplepc.com at jeozsisme@peoplepc.com >>>> wrote: >>>> Jane Ellen, In what years are you looking for baptisms in Dolwyddelan? >>>> Gwen Cunningham >>>> Connecticut >>>>> Hi Bill, >>>>> May I impose and ask if you've come across any Lloyd names in your >>>>> researching Dolwyddelan? >>>>> Richard, Owen ? >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Jane Ellen >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: <WTJ831509@aol.com> >>>>> To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 7:16 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [CAE] early Caernarvon marriages >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Michelle >>>>>> Came across this while I was researching to the old houses in and >>>>>> around >>>>>> Dolwyddelan. >>>>>> Hugh son of Owen Williams, Coytmor, Lab; by Magdalen his wife was >>>>>> baptised >>>>>> 19th February 1757. >>>>>> I hope it is of interest to you >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Bill Jones. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>>> Gwynedd Family History Society >>>>>> www.gwynedd.fsbusiness.co.uk/ >>>>>> >>>>>> ============================== >>>>>> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >>>>>> ancestors >>>>>> at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >>>>>> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599 >>>>>> &t >>>>>> ar >>>>>> getid=5429 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>> Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon >>>>> This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and >>>>> English >>>>> are welcome >>>>> >>>>> ============================== >>>>> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>>>> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>>>> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>> Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon >>>> This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and >>>> English are welcome >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >>>> New content added every business day. Learn more: >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >>>> >>> >>> >>> ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> Rhagorol - online Gwynedd Archive >>> http://www.gwynedd.gov.uk/adrannau/addysg/archifau/Rhagorol/cgi-bin/browse_a >>> rc >>> hive.pl >>> >>> ============================== >>> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >>> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >>> >> >> >> ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon >> This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and >> English are welcome >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon > This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and English > are welcome > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

    03/04/2006 11:58:55
    1. Re: [CAE] MI Llanarmon
    2. Ian Jolly
    3. I know that you now know what an MI is :-) The Gwynedd Family History Society have a series of booklets listing many of them from all over Gwynedd - The Aberdaron ones have given me a phenominal amount of information in a short time without the 'legwork'. Well worth purchasing. See http://www.genfair.com/shop/pages/gyn/ Ian Jolly Bryn-y-Baal ----- Original Message ----- From: <ALUNWERN@aol.com> To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [CAE] MI Llanarmon > Pardon my ignorance - but what is MI ? > I live in Aberdaron and I'm worried we are missing out on something > without > an MI. > > Alun > >

    03/04/2006 10:15:46
    1. Penrhos, Bangor
    2. raymond west johnson
    3. Hi List, Is Penrhos a locally used abbreviation for Penrhosgarnedd or are they two different areas of Bangor? Happy burrowing, Raymond

    03/04/2006 08:34:36