Does anyone on the list know anything about Male voice choirs at Penrhyn Quarry in the early 20th century, I have been sent a photo of a group of men in a slate quarry. The board in the front of the group says it is the Rainy Days Male Voice Choir, ?? Silver Cup. There could be a 1910 date on the bottom. The writing is rather faint. I presume they are at the Penrhyn Slate Quarries. I would be grateful for any information. Pat Chapman

Hello Listers, I am trying to locate the MIs for the Capel Curig Parish Church in the Parish of Llandegai. I know that the main church was in Bettws y Coed with the chapel of ease in Capel Curig. I see on the Genfair website that there are a few different parts for the MIs for Llandegai and I wonder if someone can tell me if the Capel Curig MI are included on those fiche . If so, which part or fiche would have them on it? I hope someone will know the answer or be able to tell me who to contact to find out. Thanks for your help in this query. Gwen Cunningham Connecticut gwenny@snet.net

Pat "Google" for penrhyn and choir and you will be amazed at the info that is available from The Great Strike through to the present day. The best single resource with "piccies" is that of the "Slate Site" as directed by Peter. There is a history page available I believe on the "current" choirs web pages also. _http://www.cor-y-penrhyn.com/_ (http://www.cor-y-penrhyn.com/) Jude

Might he have been christened Harry / Harri? Rhian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dianne Hughes" <bill.di@bigpond.net.au> To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:45 AM Subject: [CAE] Henry Hughes > Good afternoon all, > I've been reading emails on the list for a while but this is my first > plea for help. > In the 1851 census I have my great great grandfather Henry Hughes a > Wheel/Millwright born at Pwllheli aged 58 years living with his wife > Cathrinna (nee Jones)and three daughters including my great grand mother > Ellinor at 5 Mill Street Tremadog. There seems to be a shortage of > anyone named Henry in the records, I can find lots of Hughes' but I > can't find a mention of Henry Hughes in any baptism records for > Pwllheli. Does anyone have any ideas about where I might find this > elusive gentleman? > Thank you > Dianne Hughes > Teesdale Victoria Australia > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Rhagorol - online Gwynedd Archive > http://www.gwynedd.gov.uk/adrannau/addysg/archifau/Rhagorol/cgi-bin/browse_archive.pl > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Keith O'Brien in Trawsfynydd has done a lot of research on John Roberts and is an enthusiast about him. He is contactable via : http://www.llysednowain.co.uk/index_files/Page384.htm (Welsh) and http://www.llysednowain.co.uk/index_files/Page625.htm (English) where there is a small section of the site of Llys Ednowain devoted to Saint John Roberts, reflecting the section within the Heritage Centre devoted to him. On Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MER/Trawsfynydd/index.html it lists Keith's publication: O'Brien, Keith T. St John Roberts, 1577-1610 : a brief history of the Saint and martyr from Trawsfynydd. 2001 which, as far as I can remember, has some work on his ancestry as well as new research on his life. Rhian ----- Original Message ----- From: "I Thompson" <joscyn@hotmail.com> To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: [CAE] Saint John Roberts > Dear lists, > Does anyone know if the above (referenced from the Catholic Encyclopaedia) > born in Trawsfynydd in the late 16th century, has been researched anywhere > and, if so, where? > The realisation that one of my families was from Trawsfynydd at this time > makes me wonder whether I - or anyone else on the list - has this saint > "in the family". > It would be nice to be able to think there could possibly be a connection. > What social history as well - martyred for being Catholic. I wonder what > they were saying around the fireplaces of Gwynedd when he was killed? I > wonder which of our ancestors would have been rubbing their hands or > looking over their shoulders? > I wonder if anyone knows if he was "written up" in Griffiths (JE or TC) or > anywhere else? > His Catholic Encyclopaedia reference says he was "descended from the > Princes of Wales". > Yours, > Ian > London SW9 > > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru The National Library of Wales. Aberystwyth. > www.llgc.org.uk/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Good afternoon all, I've been reading emails on the list for a while but this is my first plea for help. In the 1851 census I have my great great grandfather Henry Hughes a Wheel/Millwright born at Pwllheli aged 58 years living with his wife Cathrinna (nee Jones)and three daughters including my great grand mother Ellinor at 5 Mill Street Tremadog. There seems to be a shortage of anyone named Henry in the records, I can find lots of Hughes' but I can't find a mention of Henry Hughes in any baptism records for Pwllheli. Does anyone have any ideas about where I might find this elusive gentleman? Thank you Dianne Hughes Teesdale Victoria Australia

John Roberts is mentioned at some length in an article written by T. Meirion Hughes which appeared in issue 45 of Gwynedd Roots. Yvonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "I Thompson" <joscyn@hotmail.com> To: <WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: [CAE] Saint John Roberts > Dear lists, > Does anyone know if the above (referenced from the Catholic Encyclopaedia) > born in Trawsfynydd in the late 16th century, has been researched anywhere > and, if so, where? > The realisation that one of my families was from Trawsfynydd at this time > makes me wonder whether I - or anyone else on the list - has this saint > "in the family". > It would be nice to be able to think there could possibly be a connection. > What social history as well - martyred for being Catholic. I wonder what > they were saying around the fireplaces of Gwynedd when he was killed? I > wonder which of our ancestors would have been rubbing their hands or > looking over their shoulders? > I wonder if anyone knows if he was "written up" in Griffiths (JE or TC) or > anywhere else? > His Catholic Encyclopaedia reference says he was "descended from the > Princes of Wales". > Yours, > Ian > London SW9 > > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru The National Library of Wales. Aberystwyth. > www.llgc.org.uk/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

Dear lists, Does anyone know if the above (referenced from the Catholic Encyclopaedia) born in Trawsfynydd in the late 16th century, has been researched anywhere and, if so, where? The realisation that one of my families was from Trawsfynydd at this time makes me wonder whether I - or anyone else on the list - has this saint "in the family". It would be nice to be able to think there could possibly be a connection. What social history as well - martyred for being Catholic. I wonder what they were saying around the fireplaces of Gwynedd when he was killed? I wonder which of our ancestors would have been rubbing their hands or looking over their shoulders? I wonder if anyone knows if he was "written up" in Griffiths (JE or TC) or anywhere else? His Catholic Encyclopaedia reference says he was "descended from the Princes of Wales". Yours, Ian London SW9

Hi Dianne, it may well be that the family were non-conformist, hence the children would not have been christened/baptised in the local church. You would have to trawl throught the non conformist chapel records - several of which are unfortunately lost. Have you tried the Trades Directories for that period at all - that won't help with his baptism, but will give a bit more info from between the census'. Dewi > --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- > Von: "Dianne Hughes" <bill.di@bigpond.net.au> > An: WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Betreff: [CAE] Henry Hughes > Datum: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:45:45 +1100 > > Good afternoon all, > I've been reading emails on the list for a while but this is my first > plea for help. > In the 1851 census I have my great great grandfather Henry Hughes a > Wheel/Millwright born at Pwllheli aged 58 years living with his wife > Cathrinna (nee Jones)and three daughters including my great grand mother > Ellinor at 5 Mill Street Tremadog. There seems to be a shortage of > anyone named Henry in the records, I can find lots of Hughes' but I > can't find a mention of Henry Hughes in any baptism records for > Pwllheli. Does anyone have any ideas about where I might find this > elusive gentleman? > Thank you > Dianne Hughes > Teesdale Victoria Australia > -- Bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten sparen: GMX SmartSurfer! Kostenlos downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer

Which is available.. Where? Rachel CT, USA "gwyneddroots.freeserve.co.uk" <yvonne@gwyneddroots.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: John Roberts is mentioned at some length in an article written by T. Meirion Hughes which appeared in issue 45 of Gwynedd Roots. Yvonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "I Thompson" To: Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: [CAE] Saint John Roberts > Dear lists, > Does anyone know if the above (referenced from the Catholic Encyclopaedia) > born in Trawsfynydd in the late 16th century, has been researched anywhere > and, if so, where? > The realisation that one of my families was from Trawsfynydd at this time > makes me wonder whether I - or anyone else on the list - has this saint > "in the family". > It would be nice to be able to think there could possibly be a connection. > What social history as well - martyred for being Catholic. I wonder what > they were saying around the fireplaces of Gwynedd when he was killed? I > wonder which of our ancestors would have been rubbing their hands or > looking over their shoulders? > I wonder if anyone knows if he was "written up" in Griffiths (JE or TC) or > anywhere else? > His Catholic Encyclopaedia reference says he was "descended from the > Princes of Wales". > Yours, > Ian > London SW9 > > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru The National Library of Wales. Aberystwyth. > www.llgc.org.uk/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru The National Library of Wales. Aberystwyth. www.llgc.org.uk/ holi@llgc.org.uk ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hello Dianne There's Henry HUGH baptised 1787-a bit early but perhaps a possible? Regards Maggi (Blythin)

Hello, In a family bible which I saw on a visit to Wales, are listed three generations of "The Children of Tir Uchauf". Since my visit in 1985, I have seen the property named on several maps of the area surrounding Cricieth. In fact, I was able to visit the gracious family who now lives there. However, I can gather very little information on the early history of the property and the Rowlands/Roberts family inhabiting it in the late 1700s and early 1800s. I would deeply appreciate any historical background information received - or actually, any relevant information at all. The "children" are: 1) Roland ap Robert, b. 1762, d.1823; married Ann Robart, b. 1750, d.1830 2) John Rowlands, b.1783, d. Feb 1826 2) Robert Rowlands, b. 1785, d. Mar 1858 2) William Rowlands, b. 28 Oct. 1787, d. Apr, 1856; married Elinor Thomas, b. 1796, (possibly Conwy) d.13 Nov 1846 3) Robert Rowlands, b.21 Sep 1823, d. 1870; married 17 Apr 1858 Margaret Jones, b. 1834, d.1920 3) Margaret Rowlands, b.2 Feb 1825 married unknown Hughes 3) Thomas Richard Rowland, b. 30 Mar 1828, d. 29 Mar 1887 (in the US) - my great grandfather married Elizabeth A. Thomas, b. 1833-34, (possibly Conwy), d. 1889 3) John Rowlands, b. 2 Mar 1831 3) William Rowlands b.30 Apr 1823, married unknown Frish 3) Anne Rowlands, b. 14 Sep 1834, d. 5 Dec 1896 3) Rowland Rowlands, d. 21 Aug 1895; married 4 Mar 1868 Mary Ann Cocks, d. 10 Jul 1888 Best wishes, Mary Ohio, US

Elsbeth Many, many thanks for the info - i know that you have been seeking this line for a while. At present, I will be perfectly frank, in the fact that there is no apparent connection. I am clutching at straws. Patronymics played a major part in one line of family ancestry and I just thought - or that should be hoped - that there may be something. With these names I will go off and do some digging - but as always - I will not hold my breath. I did not mean to give false hope but sometimes you have to clutch at a straw and just sometimes you are lucky. Here's to clutching! Jude

Jude, here as requested are the ancestors of David Owen Roberts His father John Roberts was born 1832 (or 1833) in Capel Curig (Cae Coedyn farm) His grandfather was Morris Roberts born 1793 Capel Curig, (lived Cae Coedyn) His grandmother was Margaret Issacs born 1804 Dolwyddelan His mother Elizabeth Roberts born 1835, Cwm Dyli, Beddgelert His grandfather was Rhys Roberts born 1799 Cwm Dyli His grandmother Catherine roberts born 1802 I'd be interested to hear if this makes any connection to what you know. Elsbeth

A while ago I asked my brother in North Wales to take some photos of PROSPECTTERRACE in LLANDUDNO after a request on this list. I have lost this gentleman's email and name in cyberspace.... If it's YOU...pls get in touch with me....my brother finally sent me some photos for you. SUSAN Connecticut, USA

Elsbeth Could you possibly list the father and if known the grandfather of David Owen Roberts with any dates that you may have and locations? There is a tenuous link to a Roberts in the same valley as Capel Curig but a little earlier than those you have mentioned. Many thanks Jude

Elsbeth, Who were David's parents? Mary

I am trying to trace decendants of a David Owen Roberts who was born in either 1860 or 1862 in Capel Curig at a house called Ysguborwen. He married an Elizabeth (possibly Prichard maybe Roberts) either 1881 or 1882. She died on 12/10/1882 aged 25, she is buried in Llanrwst Church. He married again, a lady called Mary. They lived in Bethesda . David died in Jan 1945 and is buried in St David's Churchyard in Bangor. Is there anyone connected to this family on the list, or does anyone have access to the burial recrods at Llanrwst or Bangor, that might help me discover a little more on this branch of my family? Elsbeth Pears.

Looking for any information on John Day born about 1734 died 1828 in Canada. According to family legend he emigrated to america , fought in the Revolutionary War and then settled in Canada. His great grandson John Henry returned and settled in Llandudno and died there in 1884. also seeking any information on Wilson Day Male born 1887 and Barrie Day female born 1883 in Wales according to the 1911 Canadian Census where they were found living with a decendant of John Day Shirley

David Thank you. I have found an email address for their Chairman so I 'll ask if any dates are set for 2006. Hywyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Price" <davidprice21@tiscali.co.uk> > Hywyn > > Many thanks for your helpful reply. > > The Heroes' Memorial Archway, at University of Wales Bangor is opened to > the > public very occasionally. Bangor Civic Society try to open it about two > days a year, including one day on or near Armistice Day. The Upper Room > is > panelled in wood, and inscribed with the names of the 8000 men from north > Wales who were killed in the Great War. They are listed under their home > parish. All north Wales counties are included (including Montgomeryshire). > > David > > >