I would suspect he worked the Penhryn Slate Quarry in Bethesda. I'm not at home at the moment, visiting with my mother, but will return and have a look at what census I have and see what I have.. The 1851 census for the parishes of Bethesda are on Genuki. Have you had a look at that site? Arlene Berta Hi List > > I'm re-posting a previous interest as I now have updated information. > I'm sorry for the repetition. > > I'm looking for someone who has access to the 1841 or 1851 Census of > Wales who can look up the following family for me. > David JONES, Eleanor JONES (wife nee ELLIS) and Ellis David JONES (son) > c. 1833-1840. > > Ellis David JONES came to Australia before 1877. Because of the very > common name I have been unable to verify exactly when; arrivals in 1854 > and 1858 are promising. > > *On his marriage certificate in 1881 he gave his occupation as slate > quarry man, aged about 40 (pity he didn't know how old he was!), > birthplace Wales (helpful!). > *His grave transcription has him born about 1836/1837 > *Another certificate has his birthdate around 1842. > *He always stated his birthplace as Wales. > *A photograph in my possession is inscribed on the back "Ellis David > Jones Penrhyn Caernarvonshire". I guess he was not necessarily born > there. > > I have searched the 1871 census but the family must have disbanded by > then as I can only find single Ellis Jones'. If I can find the complete > family I'm more likely to find the right one. The Society of Australian > Genealogists has microfiche of the 1841 and 1851 census but it is > incomplete. I have searched all available fiche for Wales. > > Am I asking too much? Can anyone advise me where to go next? > > Thank you > Lorna. > > Researching JONES, LUPTON, HAYES, ALVAREZ, FINDLAY, SWEET, ORGAN, MASON, > BRAY, WELCH, MITTEN, HASELDEN, SHAW, BULLOCK > > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon > This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and > English are welcome > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hi List I'm re-posting a previous interest as I now have updated information. I'm sorry for the repetition. I'm looking for someone who has access to the 1841 or 1851 Census of Wales who can look up the following family for me. David JONES, Eleanor JONES (wife nee ELLIS) and Ellis David JONES (son) c. 1833-1840. Ellis David JONES came to Australia before 1877. Because of the very common name I have been unable to verify exactly when; arrivals in 1854 and 1858 are promising. *On his marriage certificate in 1881 he gave his occupation as slate quarry man, aged about 40 (pity he didn't know how old he was!), birthplace Wales (helpful!). *His grave transcription has him born about 1836/1837 *Another certificate has his birthdate around 1842. *He always stated his birthplace as Wales. *A photograph in my possession is inscribed on the back "Ellis David Jones Penrhyn Caernarvonshire". I guess he was not necessarily born there. I have searched the 1871 census but the family must have disbanded by then as I can only find single Ellis Jones'. If I can find the complete family I'm more likely to find the right one. The Society of Australian Genealogists has microfiche of the 1841 and 1851 census but it is incomplete. I have searched all available fiche for Wales. Am I asking too much? Can anyone advise me where to go next? Thank you Lorna. Researching JONES, LUPTON, HAYES, ALVAREZ, FINDLAY, SWEET, ORGAN, MASON, BRAY, WELCH, MITTEN, HASELDEN, SHAW, BULLOCK

Hi Alwyn and Jonathan, I have been very involved with things other than family history for most of the year unfortunately, so I haven't been able to do much more than quickly read through the email on this list. However, I have just read Alwyn's reply to Jonathon and I am very interested in the family listed as I also have an Evan Griffiths who was born in Llanrug in 1852 and I also have Griffiths in Saron and Bethel. If Jonathan would like to get in touch with me off list perhaps we can establish whether or not there is any connection between the families. Jan

Unsubsribe [email protected] wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822 WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 178 Today's Topics: #1 Re: [CAE] Penrhyn ["Arlene Berta" #2 Re: [CAE] Penrhyn ["Barbara Williams" #3 Penrhyn strike question?? ["Barbara Williams" Administrivia: To unsubscribe from WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-D, send a message to [email protected] that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. To contact the WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE-D list administrator, send mail to [email protected] ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 15:00:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "Arlene Berta" To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CAE] Penrhyn Hi Listers interested in quarrymen of North Wales. There is an excellent book, The North Wales Quarrymen. I was able to find a copy on ebay. It tells all about their lives and the strike. All the males on both sides of my family were quarrymen and were involved in the strike. I have a cousin who's grandfather worked during the strike and received a home to live in as a reason to work. A friend of mine, living in Bethesda, is the granddaughter of the man that built those homes for Lord Penhryn. She's elderly, and full of historical knowledge on the village. I have been fortunate to have family and friends that know much of the history. Bethesda has a wonderful history. Did you know pubs were only allowed on one side of the high street as Lord Penhryn owned the buildings on the other side. He did not allow pubs. I beleive at one time there was something like 83 pubs in Bethesda. I'll have to check again on that number. I have it written down, but the book is at my daughter's where I spend my week days babysitting. I'll go through the book and write all the facts I have learn from an expert on Bethesda who I had the pleasure of spending the day with last year. He toured me around and showed me lots of interesting things. He's written a book on Bethesda. Not sure it is available yet. I'll check. Definitely try and find 'The North Wales Quarrymen'. Excellent reading. Arlene Berta Folsom, Ca >> Hello Barbara >> >> If you would be so kind and email the links I would be indebted to you >> My father and family worked in the Llanberis quarry >> Regards >> -- >> Ronald Jones > > Hi Ronald > > If you go to this page > > http://www.llechicymru.info/index.english.htm > > you are sure to find lots of really interesting information, I printed out > the article "What I saw at Bethesda" - this was so enlightening as to how > people lived through this strike (1900-1903). My grandfather Thomas John > WILLIAMS was born in Bethesda in 1898 so I got a real feel of how it must > have been for his family living there at the time. > > I also was on this page today and saw a pic of Llanberis quarry and how it > used to look.... > > http://www.data-wales.co.uk/ > > And on this page, I found my grandfather's two sister's enrolled at the > local school, also gives you another feel for the "great strike" which I > didn't know about until just very recently. > > http://www.gtj.org.uk/ > > > An interesting page about how slate is used today......... > > http://www.inigojones.co.uk/ > > Kindest Regards > Barbara in Sydney via Liverpool > > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Gwynedd Family History Society > 36 Y Wern Y Felinheli, Gwynedd LL56 4TXX > [email protected] or [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 11:56:34 +1000 From: "Barbara Williams" To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CAE] Penrhyn Hi Arlene This looks like a really interesting book. I am going to see if I can get a copy on ebay too. I would be very interested in anything further you can share about the place. I visited there two years ago with my sister, we were only there for a day trip but we visited our grandfather's birthplace at 4 Bryn Owen Street and just went for a little hunt around as I was "off" doing the family tree thing at that time. We did find Coed Y Parc though after a lot of driving up and down and walking back and forth!! Oh - and we did have a very nice (HUGE) pub lunch in the main street there. Regards Barbara ---- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene Berta" To: Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [CAE] Penrhyn > Hi Listers interested in quarrymen of North Wales. There is an excellent > book, The North Wales Quarrymen. I was able to find a copy on ebay. It > tells all about their lives and the strike. > > All the males on both sides of my family were quarrymen and were involved > in the strike. I have a cousin who's grandfather worked during the strike > and received a home to live in as a reason to work. A friend of mine, > living in Bethesda, is the granddaughter of the man that built those homes > for Lord Penhryn. She's elderly, and full of historical knowledge on the > village. > > I have been fortunate to have family and friends that know much of the > history. Bethesda has a wonderful history. Did you know pubs were only > allowed on one side of the high street as Lord Penhryn owned the buildings > on the other side. He did not allow pubs. I beleive at one time there > was something like 83 pubs in Bethesda. I'll have to check again on that > number. I have it written down, but the book is at my daughter's where I > spend my week days babysitting. > > I'll go through the book and write all the facts I have learn from an > expert on Bethesda who I had the pleasure of spending the day with last > year. He toured me around and showed me lots of interesting things. He's > written a book on Bethesda. Not sure it is available yet. I'll check. > > Definitely try and find 'The North Wales Quarrymen'. Excellent reading. > > Arlene Berta > Folsom, Ca > > > > >> Hello Barbara > >> > >> If you would be so kind and email the links I would be indebted to you > >> My father and family worked in the Llanberis quarry > >> Regards > >> -- > >> Ronald Jones > > > > Hi Ronald > > > > If you go to this page > > > > http://www.llechicymru.info/index.english.htm > > > > you are sure to find lots of really interesting information, I printed out > > the article "What I saw at Bethesda" - this was so enlightening as to how > > people lived through this strike (1900-1903). My grandfather Thomas John > > WILLIAMS was born in Bethesda in 1898 so I got a real feel of how it must > > have been for his family living there at the time. > > > > I also was on this page today and saw a pic of Llanberis quarry and how it > > used to look.... > > > > http://www.data-wales.co.uk/ > > > > And on this page, I found my grandfather's two sister's enrolled at the > > local school, also gives you another feel for the "great strike" which I > > didn't know about until just very recently. > > > > http://www.gtj.org.uk/ > > > > > > An interesting page about how slate is used today......... > > > > http://www.inigojones.co.uk/ > > > > Kindest Regards > > Barbara in Sydney via Liverpool > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > Gwynedd Family History Society > > 36 Y Wern Y Felinheli, Gwynedd LL56 4TXX > > [email protected] or [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon > This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and English are welcome > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 4 message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:44:10 +1000 From: "Barbara Williams" To: [email protected] Subject: Penrhyn strike question?? Hi to all I have a question for more knowledgeable people about the strike. The strike went from 1900 to 1903, but when I was looking at the 1901 census today getting some information about my family - I noticed that all the neighbours (as well as my own family) are all shown as occupation - Slate Quarryman - next column - Worker. Does this mean that they may have worked in one of the other local quarries or would they have been "bradwyr's" (traitors)? I found my g.grandmother Ellen WILLIAMS nee OWENS with her 3 children (Mary Ellen, Jane and Thomas John) living with her parents, she is shown as married (rather than widowed) but no sign of her husband Robert WILLIAMS. I downloaded a few pages of who I thought he could be - but none seem to be the right one. I hope he had gone away to work rather than be a bradwyr, but who knows what any of us would do if faced with starvation. Regards Barbara --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun!

Dear Barbara in Sidney, While is true that Ancestry.com has a great deal of information within its web site, access to the census records cost extra. I pay an annual fee for the US and UK census records above the basic ancestry.com subscription. Hope this helps. Pat in USA Barbara Williams <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Does anybody on these lists know answers to the following questions please......... If I subscribe to Ancestry.com.uk for either an annual fee, a quarterly fee or a pay-per-view fee does this give me access to UK census records ONLY - no others?? I have been to both the UK page and the American (home) one.........now it seems to be (and I may be wrong here) that the American annual fee gives you access to EVERYTHING.........though of course it is far more expensive :( and they don't have the quarterly or pay per view option either. I have been for a good scout around both pages today, but I can't seem to find a definitive answer.............looking forward as always to your knowledgeable replies. Thanks and Kind Regards Barbara in Sydney via Liverpool ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and English are welcome ============================== You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/

Hello Jonathan, Your message didn't make it to the mailing list. The address for sending messages to the list is slightly different to the subscription address: [email protected] Letters sent to the address that includes the word "requests" are answered by a computer and only seen by the list administrator, me in the case of Wls-Caernarfonshire. Here is your family in 1891 in the hamlet of Saron near Llanddeiniolen: Administrative County Caernarvon Civil Parish Llanddeiniolen RG12/4658 Folio 64 Page 8 Schedule 54 Saron. Evan Griffith Head Married 38 Agricultural Labourer born Llanrug Caernarvonshire Welsh. Jane Griffith Wife Married 34 born ANGLESEY Llanfihangel Welsh. Sarah J Griffith Dau 10 Scholar Cae Saron Welsh. Elizabeth Griffith Dau 7 Scholar Cae Llanddeiniolen Welsh. Owen Rowland Griffith Son 6 Scholar Cae Llanddeiniolen Welsh. Griffith J Griffith Son 4 Cae Llanddeiniolen Welsh. Harry Griffith Son 2 Cae Llanddeiniolen Welsh. In 1871 Evan was an unmarried Lodger in the house of Ellis Jones in Llanrug. If Llanfihangel Anglesey is correct, rather than Llanfihangel Merioneth, then this may be Jane in Llanfihangel Ysceifiog in 1871: Parish of Llanfihangel Esq RG10/5762 Folio 87 Page 18 Schedule 85 Tan y Graig Thomas Jones Head Married 53 Farmer of 53 Acres Llanfihangel Esq Angy. Ellen Jones Wife Married 57 Ceirchiog Angy. Griffith Jones son single 20 Working at home Llanfihangel Esq Angy. Mary Jones dau single 20 at home Llanfihangel Esq Angy. John Griffith Son 18 At home Llanfihangel Esq Angy. JANE JONES dau 14 Scholar Llanfihangel Esq Angy. Ann Jones dau 13 Scholar Llanfihangel Esq Angy. Griffith Jones Brother Widow 66 Ag Lab Llanfihangel Esq Angy. I can't see these two as a couple in 1881, but there is a possibility that they were married shortly after the 1881 Census, so they may still be single then - I haven't checked this possibility. All the best Alwyn -----Original Message----- From: D J P Morris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 01 October 2004 21:28 To: [email protected] Subject: Evan GRIFFITH b. 1852 (somewhere near Llanrug) Could someone please look up Evan Griffith and/or Jane Griffith (nee. Jones) in a pre-1901 census. The details from the 1901 census about him are: Name: Evan Griffith Age in 1901: 48 yrs Place of Birth: Carnarvon Llanrug Profession in 1901: Quarry Labourer Language: Welsh He was married to Jane Griffith (nee Jones) b. 1857 Llanfihengel Penant. But I couldn't find either of these people on the 1881 census on familysearch.org, they went on to have 4 sons (Owen Roland b.1885, Griffith John b.1887, Harry b.1889, and Evan Hugh b.1891), and 2 daughters (Sarah Jane b.1881, and Elizabeth b.1884). Thanks in advance! Jonathan --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 01/10/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 01/10/2004

Thanksfor information are there any other sites inthe Caenarfonshire area/ John Maddocks ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:22 AM Subject: [CAE] Llanllechid > > Hello List > Llanllechid info. via Genuki - > _http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CAE/Llanllechid/index.html_ > (http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CAE/Llanllechid/index.html) > > Regards > Maggi Blythin > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > http://www.welshmariners.org.uk/ > Morwyr Cymru Welsh Mariners > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Not that I'm aware of. If you are interested in the Bethesda area, this is the right list. Arlene On Sep 28, 2004, at 2:22 AM, John Maddocks wrote: > Thanksfor information are there any other sites inthe Caenarfonshire > area/ > John Maddocks > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:22 AM > Subject: [CAE] Llanllechid > > >> >> Hello List >> Llanllechid info. via Genuki - >> _http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CAE/Llanllechid/index.html_ >> (http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CAE/Llanllechid/index.html) >> >> Regards >> Maggi Blythin >> >> >> ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> http://www.welshmariners.org.uk/ >> Morwyr Cymru Welsh Mariners >> >> ============================== >> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >> >> > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon > This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and > English are welcome > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

May I suggest you contact the Gwynedd Archives, Victoria Dock, Caernarfon, Gwynedd, who hold the Parish records for a large part of the Caernarfon area. They can at least put you in touch with the sub office responsible for Capel Curig. I have a feeling that this would be the Conwy Area Record Office, but am not certain. This is far more practical than other more expensive options. T. Meirion Hughes, Caernarfon Historian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Nordberg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 12:05 PM Subject: [CAE] Thomas Hughes/Jane Williams > Dear Listers > > I found on the LDS site that my 3rd great grandfather Thomas Hughes and Jane > Williams were married 21 Nov 1815 at the Church of Saint Peblig in > Llanbeblig. That is as much info as I have been able to get on them. I > don't have either of their parent's names or where they lived. Their > children appear to have been born in Capel Curig Hamlet. Their first child > was born in 1813 (Margaret), David 1815, Thomas 1817, William 1819, Griffith > 1826 (my connection). Is it possible for anyone to point me in the correct > direction to get more info on this couple. > > Thanks and kind regards > > Lee Cousins > Borehamwood Hertfordshire > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru The National Library of Wales. Aberystwyth. > www.llgc.org.uk/ > [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Aaron, HMS "Clio" was launched at Sheerness 1858, became a training ship in River Thames, London, 1876, transferred to Menai Straits 1877 and moored at Glyn Garth near Bangor Pier. Sold in 1919, broken up at Bangor 1920. Life was tough for the young lads who were trained on board, and in Llandegfan churchyard, there are graves of 29 Clio boys. Their sad demise is described in an article in the Transactions of the Anglesey Antiquarian Society (1985), by Emrys W. Roberts. At the Library of University of Wales Bangor is the same author's M.Ed. thesis (1979), "The Clio (1877-1920): a study of an industrial training ship in North Wales". The same library holds "Annual Reports" of the Clio for 1908-1919, and there are a few other Reports scattered in various other archives. There are several photos of the ship and crew held at Caernarfon Record Office. Did your William Thomas stay in the area after 1881? Regards, David Price, Bangor -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Reid [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 21 September 2004 18:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CAE] Training Ship Clio 1881 Census Re: William Francis Thomas Does anyone have any information on the Training Ship "Clio" I have a relative listed as an Instructor below from the 1881 census: William THOMAS 46 Gosport, Hampshire, England Instructor Pensioner I have seen many pictures of the boat and crew on the Internet but have yet to see one with names. He is my great great grandfather and would love any information. Thanks! Aaron Reid Toronto, Canada --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and English are welcome ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Parish registers might give you some further information. You know the church, you now need to go through the parish register, it might give you their parents name and witnesses of the wedding. You have to pay for information from the Hayes Marriage Index, and from the Public Records Office in London, but it might give you some information. You could pay for a search by the PRO. I've done it and found it worth it. Not always the case though. Try searching their site. See if the LDS has micro fiche of the parish register that you could order and view at a nearby Family Center. I'd start here, as it's the cheapest and easiest way to go. They had the info on them so they probably have the parish register available on micro fiche. Hopefully, others can add to this. Arlene Folsom, CA > Dear Listers > > I found on the LDS site that my 3rd great grandfather Thomas Hughes and > Jane > Williams were married 21 Nov 1815 at the Church of Saint Peblig in > Llanbeblig. That is as much info as I have been able to get on them. I > don't have either of their parent's names or where they lived. Their > children appear to have been born in Capel Curig Hamlet. Their first > child > was born in 1813 (Margaret), David 1815, Thomas 1817, William 1819, > Griffith > 1826 (my connection). Is it possible for anyone to point me in the > correct > direction to get more info on this couple. > > Thanks and kind regards > > Lee Cousins > Borehamwood Hertfordshire > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself with cool new emoticons > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru The National Library of Wales. Aberystwyth. > www.llgc.org.uk/ > [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

Dear Aaron Have you subscribed to the Mariners mailing list? They have pretty strict rules about what subjects are discussed (ships crews mostly) but the people on the list are very knowledgable and may be able to help. You can try this website http://www.hotkey.net.au/~jwilliams4/mariner1.htm or send a 'subscribe' message to [email protected] I can't find this mailing list on the Rootsweb mailing list site http://lists.rootsweb.com/ and I have no idea where I found it, but I spent quite a while on the list and it was really useful. With luck you'll come up with someone who knows all about training ships. Look at the Miscellaneous section of the mailing lists they have a wealth of information. Lorna. -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Reid [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2004 3:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CAE] Training Ship Clio 1881 Census Re: William Francis Thomas Does anyone have any information on the Training Ship "Clio"......

Dear Listers I found on the LDS site that my 3rd great grandfather Thomas Hughes and Jane Williams were married 21 Nov 1815 at the Church of Saint Peblig in Llanbeblig. That is as much info as I have been able to get on them. I don't have either of their parent's names or where they lived. Their children appear to have been born in Capel Curig Hamlet. Their first child was born in 1813 (Margaret), David 1815, Thomas 1817, William 1819, Griffith 1826 (my connection). Is it possible for anyone to point me in the correct direction to get more info on this couple. Thanks and kind regards Lee Cousins Borehamwood Hertfordshire _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo

Hello Listers, I am interested in finding Elizabeth JONES b. c1850 in Nefyn, Wales. Father, John JONES (Forgeman). Elizabeth had a sister Jane JONES. I found this information on Elizabeth JONES marriage cert. and 1901 Census for Bolton, Lancashire. I would appreciate any help on finding Elizabeth and her father, John JONES on an 1851 Census or Parish Records, for Nefyn Wales. Regards, Yvonne + NZ

Re: William Francis Thomas Does anyone have any information on the Training Ship "Clio" I have a relative listed as an Instructor below from the 1881 census: William THOMAS 46 Gosport, Hampshire, England Instructor Pensioner I have seen many pictures of the boat and crew on the Internet but have yet to see one with names. He is my great great grandfather and would love any information. Thanks! Aaron Reid Toronto, Canada --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals

Have you tried this site: http://www.welshmariners.org.uk/n_links.php At the bottom of the page are listed other mariner links. Arlene On Sep 21, 2004, at 10:52 AM, Aaron Reid wrote: > Re: William Francis Thomas > > Does anyone have any information on the Training Ship "Clio" > > I have a relative listed as an Instructor below from the 1881 census: > > William THOMAS 46 Gosport, Hampshire, England Instructor Pensioner > > I have seen many pictures of the boat and crew on the Internet but > have yet to see one with names. He is my great great grandfather and > would love any information. > > Thanks! > > Aaron Reid > Toronto, Canada > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Cewch ddanfon negeseuon Cymraeg neu Saesneg i'r rhestr hon > This list covers a bilingual area, in which messages in both Welsh and > English are welcome > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Oh if only this were one of mine!! How interesting. Regards Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 10:39 PM Subject: [CAE] Tit bits > Saw this in Caernarfon baptisms:- > 21st. December 1876 Joseph Russelan son of Elizabeth Agnes and Abd el Ganie > Hyder abd el Malek, abode Waterloo Port, occupation-Sheykh of Lebanon !! > Regards > Maggi Blythin > > > ==== WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Mailing List ==== > http://www.welshmariners.org.uk/ > Morwyr Cymru Welsh Mariners > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

Greetings all on this list. I am new to this list and hope someone can help or turn me in the right direction: I have the following information and would like to trace this family back now in Wales. Thomas Price b c 1645 in Wales who married Maria Baker in the Channel Islands. Thomas Price was originally thought to be from the area Trelech-a'r-Bettw, a little north of Mt. Snowdon Carnarvon (Caernarvon) in Wales. The only clue to the family from which Thomas Price, Founder of the Guernsey Channel Islands branch sprang, is to be gathered from an antique silver seal which he brought with him when he arrived in Guernsey. Below is information off the seal used by Price in the Channel Islands and the later generations. (as mentioned above). Arms. - Argent, a lion rampant, reguard sable. Crest. - A falcon sable, close. Motto. - "Spero" - "I hope" This information from a published book 'Our Kin Genealogicala Sketches, Pedigrees and Arms of Sundry Families 1890' The seal was engraved with the above Arms, crest and motto, the device of the ancient Welsh family of Ap Rhys, of Caernarvon, Wales, whose pedigree extends back six or seven centuries. (I don't have a clue what this means!!) Thomas Price originally came to the Channel Islands travelling with a tutor/companion, (he was possibly a 'remittance man') who after his marriage, settled permanently in Guernsey. The family had an interest in shipping, they survived the Napoleonic invasion and prospered. Can some kind person please help me trace this family of Price/Pryce (I have only seen the spelling as Price). I have not seen the original seal but Matthew Guérin PRICE b c1787 (a Private Banker and married to Caroline, Countess Raphael. ) who was the third great grandson of Thomas PRICE b c1645 gave his son Captain Matthew Price b 1818 a similar seal when he came to Australia in 1852. This is still in the family here. Kind regards Ronnie Bates [email protected] Webpage. http://www.southwest.com.au/~ronnie

Can someone advise me on records for Penlan Independent, Pwllheli & Llangian. I'm trying to find details of a baptism of Eleanor Roberts 23/11/1817, Father Richard, Mother Margaret. regards Geraint

In a message dated 9/19/2004 11:57:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I'm trying to find details of a baptism of Eleanor Roberts 23/11/1817, > Father Richard, Mother Margaret Do you have the names of Eleanor ROBERTS' siblings? I have a Catherine ROBERTS, father Richard ROBERTS, born about 1824 in Caernarvonshire. Eleanor and Catherine might be sisters. Thanks. Jayne [email protected]