This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Roll, Szot Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CGC.2ACI/766.2.1 Message Board Post: Janet, thanks for responding and trying to help me. Yes, I checked the 1920 Census and also the Illinois Death Index, and she wasn´t there. One reason that makes me believe she died young is that Edward´s birth cert of 1915 asks for the number of children of this mother, and it says 4 born, 2 alive (which I assume includes the new born baby). I know for sure that the first child of my grandparents, born 1911, survived, and that the third child, Antonina, born 1914, died 2 hours after birth in Chicago (she´s in the Illinois Death Index, and I have her death cert, so I know this for sure also). Helena, the second child, born 1913, was in the birth register and I got her baptism record from Chicago, but can´t find her death in Illinois. She´s not in the 1920 Census either, and there is a gap between the first child, born 1911, and Edward, born 1915. The next two girls born after Edward were named Antonina and Helena again, and I can´t imagine my grandparents would have given these girls the same names if the other two were still alive. I assume that my grandmother and the children lived in Wisconsin at least for some time, maybe they stayed with relatives or friends, while my grandfather worked in Chicago. Their first three children were born in Chicago, their fourth child was born in Oshkosh, and the following children were all born in Chicago again, where I know my grandmother lived permanently after 1915 according to her Declaration of Intention. But what happened to Helena? I assume she died some time between 1913 and before June 1915 either in Illinois or Wisconsin. Is there a Wisconsin Death Index covering the time after 1912? I would also be very interested in the obituary of Mrs. Fred Roll (I found an Alfred Roll who lived in Wisconsin the Social Security Death Index). Thanks again for your help. Ute