This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CGC.2ACI/699.1.1 Message Board Post: Oh, man. I am really sorry I forgot to mention any birth dates. Just call me space make that a capital S. Okay, birth year is approximatley around 1839 for Martha and unknown for Herman. We didn't even know he was a "Herman" until it was found in 1914 book. We were trying to locate under the name "Hiram" Scott and were looking in Illinois first. The book stated Herman H. and Martha (Miller) Scott as Matilda's parents.