Thank you all for your confidence in me, and I'll do my best to see that Winnebago grows and grows! Now, I'm off to work on a few more things for the site and the Town of Black Wolf on the 1880 farm directory. Much more coming soon on the St. John's Lutheran Church thanks to Kurt Miller. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: Hello <jakerag@earthlink.net> To: <WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com> > Same goes for me. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <WBMLROSS@aol.com> > > I want all items that I have posted to stay with Jan Cortez at the new > > Winnebago County site and will be adding more. Thank you Jan for all of > your hard > > work. > > > > Michelle Ross

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CGC.2ACI/490.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the assistance. I'll give the website a try.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CGC.2ACI/490.1 Message Board Post: Winnebago County Divorce Records are at the Area Research Center, Polk Library, University of Wisconsin--Oshkosh. See http://www.uwosh.edu/archives/genealogy.htm. An index was prepared by Ruth Protz for the Winnebagoland Genealogical Society--this divorce is listed.

Same goes for me. ----- Original Message ----- From: <WBMLROSS@aol.com> To: <WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [WIWinneb'go] Winnebago County WIGenWeb Project site. > I want all items that I have posted to stay with Jan Cortez at the new > Winnebago County site and will be adding more. Thank you Jan for all of your hard > work. > > Michelle Ross > > > ==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== > ~~ The List's GOLDEN RULE ~~ > Keep to genealogy, history, anything ancestors! Keep it clean & cool. > Treat others as you want them to treat you...Positively *NO* selling! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Well if one cemetery yesterday and one today was not enough, Janet Eiler has done it again. One more! This one is called Lakeview Cemetery, but I had them listed wrong on the cemeteries list. This one is also aka Boom Bay Cemetery and St. Peter's, so I've listed it under St. Peter's/Lakeview Cemetery. http://www.jansdigs.com/Winnebago/index.html Enjoy and thanks again Janet! Jan Mecosta Co., MI. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mimecost/ Ionia Co., MI. http://www.rootsweb.com/~miionia/ Ashland County http://www.jansdigs.com/Ashland/index.html Bayfield Co., WI. http://www.rootsweb.com/~wibayfie/contents.html Waushara Co., WI. http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwausha/wsctweb.html Winnebago County http://www.jansdigs.com/Winnebago/index.html Jansdigs http://www.jansdigs.com

Thanks to David Griffiths for the six new pics on the Photo Page under landmarks. Also includes the photographers signature page. And to Janet Eiler who has sent in a new cemetery, St. Peter's Ev. Lutheran Cemetery #1. Way to go! http://www.jansdigs.com/Winnebago/index.html Jan Jansdigs http://www.jansdigs.com

Thanks to Janet Eiler, we now have the Zittau Immanuel Lutheran Church Cemetery online. Also, I've started the 1880 Farm Directory. The Town of Algoma is online. http://www.jansdigs.com/Winnebago/index.html Enjoy your search! Jan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CGC.2ACI/490 Message Board Post: Looking for divorce records for Edward Francis Sawyer from Emma Z. (Rogers) Sawyer about 1895 in the Oshkosh or Neenah area. He was born about 1862 in Wisconsin. Would these records be at the county court house in Oshkosh? Thanks.

Hi Kathy, Yes, it is sad, and I would have continued on after many emails from researchers asking me to stay, however the State Coordinator will not allow me to come back. So, I will continue on with the site on another server and project. All the information will remain and I will do my best to continue adding to the site. I am currently working on the 1880 farm directory of all the towns, and Janet Eiler is working on more cemeteries. Anything that anyone wants left on the WIGenWeb, can stay, I have said that before. It's unfortunate, but, it has been taken out of my hands. I plan to continue on to the best of my ability. My apologies for the inconvenience. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Grace" <kgrace@vbe.com> > This is so sad. Once again researchers are thwarted because of > Differences of opinion. It is sad that people would pull their material > from the > WIGenWeb pages since the USGenWeb project was meant to be the place that > researchers could depend on for the best information. Can't we do some > compromising here? I would think that material had been submitted to > the > Winnebago page of the WIGenWeb project because of the project itself, > not > because of who was maintaining the web page at any particular time. If > Jan had never had anything to do with the web page, would submitters not > still > have submitted their information? Is it fair to the project to pull > information because of personality conflicts? I have worked with both > Tina > and Jan and have found them both extremely helpful and friendly. I > believe this is exactly the type of thing that happened with the > USGenWeb census > projects and the reason that there are now 2 projects competing against > each other instead of working together. As a researcher myself, I know > that a > split like this is helpful to no one and only serves to alienate people. > Please think of what is happening to the project instead of personal > feelings. > > Kathy Grace > Regional Coordinator > State Coordinator for AZ, CO, KS, SD, WI, WY > US GenWeb Census Project

Kathy, I agree too that the differences could have been resolved. I hoped Tina would have let Jan come back. Sounds like it was more of a personal difference that had nothing to do with the project itself. As a contributor to Jan Cortez's website though, I started contributing to her website on AHGP before Winnebago Rootsweb even had one to speak of. I had all my cemetery info to share with the world and didn't know where to go with it until I met up with Jan. Through her, from the beginning, my donations to the genealogy world has been made possible. Through my efforts and Jan's, I choose to stay with Jan! In response to an earlier response about Ancestry taking over Rootsweb and making it a pay site? One never knows what can happen in today's computer world. Have you visited LDS lately? Searching through the LDS's 1880 Census, there is a link to view the image on Ancestry for a fee.....Ancestry is getting their hands into a lot of the free websites and they could all be in danger of belonging to Ancestry soon! You know what they say about the price being right....! One thing I am pretty sure of is that if this ever happens to any server that Jan has our Winnebago info on....she will move our info to guarantee it's remains on a free access website to all of us! I will donate to the cause if necessary if she has to buy her own domain! JAN! Keep up the great work! I am with you all the way! Regards, Janet Eiler "The Cemerery Lady" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Grace" <kgrace@vbe.com> To: <WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:39 PM Subject: [WIWinneb'go] Winnebago County WIGenWeb Project site > This is so sad. Once again researchers are thwarted because of > Differences of opinion. It is sad that people would pull their material > from the > WIGenWeb pages since the USGenWeb project was meant to be the place that > researchers could depend on for the best information. Can't we do some > compromising here? I would think that material had been submitted to > the > Winnebago page of the WIGenWeb project because of the project itself, > not > because of who was maintaining the web page at any particular time. If > Jan had never had anything to do with the web page, would submitters not > still > have submitted their information? Is it fair to the project to pull > information because of personality conflicts? I have worked with both > Tina > and Jan and have found them both extremely helpful and friendly. I > believe this is exactly the type of thing that happened with the > USGenWeb census > projects and the reason that there are now 2 projects competing against > each other instead of working together. As a researcher myself, I know > that a > split like this is helpful to no one and only serves to alienate people. > Please think of what is happening to the project instead of personal > feelings. > > Kathy Grace > Regional Coordinator > State Coordinator for AZ, CO, KS, SD, WI, WY > US GenWeb Census Project > > > > > > > ==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== > ~~ SUBJECT LINES ~~ > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! > The 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

This is so sad. Once again researchers are thwarted because of Differences of opinion. It is sad that people would pull their material from the WIGenWeb pages since the USGenWeb project was meant to be the place that researchers could depend on for the best information. Can't we do some compromising here? I would think that material had been submitted to the Winnebago page of the WIGenWeb project because of the project itself, not because of who was maintaining the web page at any particular time. If Jan had never had anything to do with the web page, would submitters not still have submitted their information? Is it fair to the project to pull information because of personality conflicts? I have worked with both Tina and Jan and have found them both extremely helpful and friendly. I believe this is exactly the type of thing that happened with the USGenWeb census projects and the reason that there are now 2 projects competing against each other instead of working together. As a researcher myself, I know that a split like this is helpful to no one and only serves to alienate people. Please think of what is happening to the project instead of personal feelings. Kathy Grace Regional Coordinator State Coordinator for AZ, CO, KS, SD, WI, WY US GenWeb Census Project

Hello Janet. I am a native of Winnebago Ccounty, Winneconne-Omro twps. I have done some thorough research on a pioneer cemetary-Goggins-Oakhill in Omro Township. I would like to contribute what I have, if you are interested. There seems to be some special issues involved. Could I write to you directly before submitting on web-site? My husband and I have several ancestors buried in this cemetary. THX C.Costello

Hi David, Actually names and dates are not copyrightable, but the format is. I have seen the copyright that you refer to, and always am real careful not to violate their copyright unless I receive a copy from the person who submitted it, and their permission to use it. As to the postcards, they should be fine to put on the site. Scan them and attach to an email for me and I will put them on the site. Thanks, Jan Cortez Winnebago, WI AHGP CC ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" <degriff@springnet1.com> > Janet, > I have a multi-page hard copy listing for Waukau Cemetery that I got > from the Wisconsin Genealogical Society. I don't have it in front of > me, but I think there was a message stamped on it prohibiting copying > unless it was for genealogical research. Let me check the message, and > get back to you. If there is no prohibition about putting it on Jan's > site, I will share the list. > > Also, I have some old "copyrighted" post card style photos of Oshkosh > done in 1903. Aren't copyrights good for only 100 years? Can I put the > photos on Jan's site also? > > David Griffith > > Janet Eiler wrote: > > >I agree. Links on both of the web pages so we and future genealogists can > >easily find both sources of info. > > > >Valentine....I agree with your HIS and HERS....comment. > > > >I also thank everyone who is staying with Jan Cortez's site. She truly is a > >wonderful person to work with and I will continue to send all my cemetery > >walks to her at the http://www.jansdigs.com/Winnebago/index.html . > > > >I have had a very busy and hectic summer and had an engine blow out on one > >of our cars. Our second car is now back and I will be getting right on the > >cemetery walks...Zittau Immanuel Lutheran Cemetery is next to come as I had > >started it before the car problem arose. > > > >I also plan on getting either Waukau or Eureka (a lot of requests for these > >two) Cemetery done this summer. Both are real good sizes > > > >Janet Eiler > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: ".... valentine53179" <valentine53179@hotmail.com> > >To: <WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 11:13 PM > >Subject: Re: [WIWinneb'go] Winnebago County WIGenWeb Project site. > > > > > > > > > >>I for one will be expecting jan's link to be on this page of the genweb... > >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb/winnebago/interactive.html > >> > >>just as on Jan;s page i will be expecting to see the link to the WInnebago > >> > >> > >wegenweb page... > > > > > >>i really dislike hearing anything about HIS and HERS, THEIRS and MINE... > >>it tells me that all is not well with the management, let alone with the > >> > >> > >troops.... > > > > > >>it also makes people not comfortable with the placement of their > >> > >> > >works..... > > > > > >>usually, we expect stability.... > >>i am not reading this from any of the latest posts... > >> > >>if you must divorce, then at least have an adult divorce.... and be good > >> > >> > >friends.... > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Tina S Vickery > >> To: WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com > >> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 5:39 PM > >> Subject: Re: [WIWinneb'go] Winnebago County WIGenWeb Project site. > >> > >> > >> Thank you Janet, your material will not be included. > >> > >> For the record though, Jan resigned, the site was reassigned, then > >> Jan asked to return. I chose not honor her request. The consequence > >> of my decision was that many contributors submissions to the > >> Winnebago WIGenWeb County site were removed without the contributors > >> permission. I told Jan, and I will restate it here. I will honor > >> all requests for removal of material, but sincerely hope that many of > >> you will choose to have your material remain with WIGenWeb Project > >> Winnebago County site. > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> Tina Vickery SC WIGenWeb Project > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Janet Eiler" <jeiler@new.rr.com> > >> To: <WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 6:26 PM > >> Subject: Re: [WIWinneb'go] Winnebago County WIGenWeb Project site. > >> > >> > >> > Hi List! > >> > > >> > I wish all my material to go with Jan Cortez, former coordinator of > >> > >> > >the > > > > > >> > www.rootsweb.com/~wiwinneb website. > >> > > >> > All my previous and future contributions can be found at > >> > www.jansdigs.com/Winnebago/index.html . I sent much of my info to Jan > >> > >> > >at > > > > > >> > this website before she went to rootsweb. > >> > > >> > Jan was forced to give up the rootsweb site. Jan is a wonderful lady > >> > >> > >to > > > > > >> > work with and truly dedicated to our Winnebago County, WI genealogy! > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > Janet Eiler > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Tina S Vickery" <tsvickery@adelphia.net> > >> > To: <WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com> > >> > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 12:36 PM > >> > Subject: [WIWinneb'go] Winnebago County WIGenWeb Project site. > >> > > >> > > >> > > Hi all -- > >> > > > >> > > My name is Tina Vickery, and I am the State Coordinator of the > >> > > WIGenWeb Project located at http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb. Jan > >> > > posted recently that the Winnebago County site has moved. While she > >> > > did move it, what she neglected to tell you all is that her role as > >> > > Winnebago County Coordinator also ceased. The pages she presents > >> > >> > >are > > > > > >> > > not part of the WIGenWeb Project, and the many submissions that many > >> > > of you made are not present on the WIGenWeb Project Pages. She took > >> > > the site down, lock, stock, and barrel. > >> > > > >> > > I have placed a new WIGenWeb Project Winnebago County site at > >> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb/winnebago/ and invite all of you > >> > > that have contributed to the pages formerly at > >> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwinneb to contact me if you wish your > >> > > contributions to remain and continue on the WIGenWeb Project > >> > > Winnebago site. > >> > > > >> > > I look forward to hearing from and working with you! > >> > > > >> > > Tina Vickery > >> > > tsvickery@adelphia.net > >> > > SC WIGenWeb Project > >> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== > >> > > ----------> ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters Permissible Use > >> > >> > ><---------- > > > > > >> > > When typing a surname? YES! Absolutely! A must! For general text? > >> > >> > >NO! > > > > > >> > > It's shouting, bad manners (Netiquette) and hard to find surnames. > >> > > > >> > > ============================== > >> > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >> records, > >> > go to: > >> > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== > >> > Uh-Oh!!! <----- Missed or deleted a post that might put a crack in > >> > your wall? Remember, day & night, the RootsWeb Archives are usually > >> > open to browse or search. Go to: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ . > >> > > >> > ============================== > >> > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >> > >> > >records, > > > > > >> go to: > >> > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== > >> ~~ SUBJECT LINES ~~ > >> Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! > >> The 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > >> > >> ============================== > >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >> > >> > >records, go to: > > > > > >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >> > >> > >> > >>==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== > >>~~ The List's GOLDEN RULE ~~ > >>Keep to genealogy, history, anything ancestors! Keep it clean & cool. > >>Treat others as you want them to treat you...Positively *NO* selling! > >> > >>============================== > >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >> > >> > >go to: > > > > > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== > >~*~*~*~ The Resources in the USGenWeb's Parade of States Awaits! ~*~*~*~ > >-- Table of all States: http://www.usgenweb.org/statelinks-table.html > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== > ~*~*~*~ The Resources in the USGenWeb's Parade of States Awaits! ~*~*~*~ > -- Table of all States: http://www.usgenweb.org/statelinks-table.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

David, I have never seen this cemetery reading of Waukau done by the WI Genealogical Society. When my reading is complete, it will not be a duplicate of WI Gen Soc's. I am sure their reading is old......one of theirs I did see was from the 1960's/70's of Omro Union...many people have been buried there since and mine would be up-to-date to include gravestones that didn't exist when they did their reading. I am sure my format is also different from theirs. Through my ventures, I have also found a few errors in some of the old cemetery readings. I have also reread cemeteries in the Wolf River Twp area that are also in the famous Guyant Collection.....again, mine are different. When they read Wolf River Cemetery they did 2 rows and labeled them as one row. They also read one row from the north to south and the next was read south to north.....confused me at first until I figured it out what they did. I did my reading doing one actual row at a time and read them all the same way. My reading included all old stones, ones missed by previous readers, and all new stones. I am not afraid to crawl into overgrown shrubbery/bushes and fence lines to read a stone. There were times I came out of the cemetery looking like I tangled with a wild cat as I was all scratched and biten to pieces....LOL. My main purpose is to get the most acurrate info I can and to get out so people can access it for FREE! Our cemeteries hold a lot of info and sometimes it is the only evidence we have that our ancestors existed....as filing records wasn't law until October 1907. One cemetery has me totally confused as to how I want to do it. I have been to Sacred Heart Cemetery many many times and I just don't know how I want to do this one yet. You start out with two rows.......which is fine, but by the time you get to the end of the two rows.....they have formed into only one row.......I hate reading two rows as one but when they are crooked and flow into each other.....? I don't know how I am going to handle this one yet. Regards, Janet Eiler "The Cemetery Lady" ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" <degriff@springnet1.com> To: <WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [WIWinneb'go] Winnebago County WIGenWeb Project site. > Janet, > I have a multi-page hard copy listing for Waukau Cemetery that I got > from the Wisconsin Genealogical Society. I don't have it in front of > me, but I think there was a message stamped on it prohibiting copying > unless it was for genealogical research. Let me check the message, and > get back to you. If there is no prohibition about putting it on Jan's > site, I will share the list. > > Also, I have some old "copyrighted" post card style photos of Oshkosh > done in 1903. Aren't copyrights good for only 100 years? Can I put the > photos on Jan's site also? > > David Griffith > > Janet Eiler wrote: > > >I agree. Links on both of the web pages so we and future genealogists can > >easily find both sources of info. > > > >Valentine....I agree with your HIS and HERS....comment. > > > >I also thank everyone who is staying with Jan Cortez's site. She truly is a > >wonderful person to work with and I will continue to send all my cemetery > >walks to her at the http://www.jansdigs.com/Winnebago/index.html . > > > >I have had a very busy and hectic summer and had an engine blow out on one > >of our cars. Our second car is now back and I will be getting right on the > >cemetery walks...Zittau Immanuel Lutheran Cemetery is next to come as I had > >started it before the car problem arose. > > > >I also plan on getting either Waukau or Eureka (a lot of requests for these > >two) Cemetery done this summer. Both are real good sizes > > > >Janet Eiler > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: ".... valentine53179" <valentine53179@hotmail.com> > >To: <WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 11:13 PM > >Subject: Re: [WIWinneb'go] Winnebago County WIGenWeb Project site. > > > > > > > > > >>I for one will be expecting jan's link to be on this page of the genweb... > >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb/winnebago/interactive.html > >> > >>just as on Jan;s page i will be expecting to see the link to the WInnebago > >> > >> > >wegenweb page... > > > > > >>i really dislike hearing anything about HIS and HERS, THEIRS and MINE... > >>it tells me that all is not well with the management, let alone with the > >> > >> > >troops.... > > > > > >>it also makes people not comfortable with the placement of their > >> > >> > >works..... > > > > > >>usually, we expect stability.... > >>i am not reading this from any of the latest posts... > >> > >>if you must divorce, then at least have an adult divorce.... and be good > >> > >> > >friends.... > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Tina S Vickery > >> To: WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com > >> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 5:39 PM > >> Subject: Re: [WIWinneb'go] Winnebago County WIGenWeb Project site. > >> > >> > >> Thank you Janet, your material will not be included. > >> > >> For the record though, Jan resigned, the site was reassigned, then > >> Jan asked to return. I chose not honor her request. The consequence > >> of my decision was that many contributors submissions to the > >> Winnebago WIGenWeb County site were removed without the contributors > >> permission. I told Jan, and I will restate it here. I will honor > >> all requests for removal of material, but sincerely hope that many of > >> you will choose to have your material remain with WIGenWeb Project > >> Winnebago County site. > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> Tina Vickery SC WIGenWeb Project > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Janet Eiler" <jeiler@new.rr.com> > >> To: <WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 6:26 PM > >> Subject: Re: [WIWinneb'go] Winnebago County WIGenWeb Project site. > >> > >> > >> > Hi List! > >> > > >> > I wish all my material to go with Jan Cortez, former coordinator of > >> > >> > >the > > > > > >> > www.rootsweb.com/~wiwinneb website. > >> > > >> > All my previous and future contributions can be found at > >> > www.jansdigs.com/Winnebago/index.html . I sent much of my info to Jan > >> > >> > >at > > > > > >> > this website before she went to rootsweb. > >> > > >> > Jan was forced to give up the rootsweb site. Jan is a wonderful lady > >> > >> > >to > > > > > >> > work with and truly dedicated to our Winnebago County, WI genealogy! > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > Janet Eiler > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Tina S Vickery" <tsvickery@adelphia.net> > >> > To: <WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com> > >> > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 12:36 PM > >> > Subject: [WIWinneb'go] Winnebago County WIGenWeb Project site. > >> > > >> > > >> > > Hi all -- > >> > > > >> > > My name is Tina Vickery, and I am the State Coordinator of the > >> > > WIGenWeb Project located at http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb. Jan > >> > > posted recently that the Winnebago County site has moved. While she > >> > > did move it, what she neglected to tell you all is that her role as > >> > > Winnebago County Coordinator also ceased. The pages she presents > >> > >> > >are > > > > > >> > > not part of the WIGenWeb Project, and the many submissions that many > >> > > of you made are not present on the WIGenWeb Project Pages. She took > >> > > the site down, lock, stock, and barrel. > >> > > > >> > > I have placed a new WIGenWeb Project Winnebago County site at > >> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb/winnebago/ and invite all of you > >> > > that have contributed to the pages formerly at > >> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwinneb to contact me if you wish your > >> > > contributions to remain and continue on the WIGenWeb Project > >> > > Winnebago site. > >> > > > >> > > I look forward to hearing from and working with you! > >> > > > >> > > Tina Vickery > >> > > tsvickery@adelphia.net > >> > > SC WIGenWeb Project > >> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== > >> > > ----------> ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters Permissible Use > >> > >> > ><---------- > > > > > >> > > When typing a surname? YES! Absolutely! A must! For general text? > >> > >> > >NO! > > > > > >> > > It's shouting, bad manners (Netiquette) and hard to find surnames. > >> > > > >> > > ============================== > >> > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >> records, > >> > go to: > >> > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== > >> > Uh-Oh!!! <----- Missed or deleted a post that might put a crack in > >> > your wall? Remember, day & night, the RootsWeb Archives are usually > >> > open to browse or search. Go to: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ . > >> > > >> > ============================== > >> > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >> > >> > >records, > > > > > >> go to: > >> > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== > >> ~~ SUBJECT LINES ~~ > >> Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! > >> The 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > >> > >> ============================== > >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >> > >> > >records, go to: > > > > > >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >> > >> > >> > >>==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== > >>~~ The List's GOLDEN RULE ~~ > >>Keep to genealogy, history, anything ancestors! Keep it clean & cool. > >>Treat others as you want them to treat you...Positively *NO* selling! > >> > >>============================== > >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >> > >> > >go to: > > > > > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== > >~*~*~*~ The Resources in the USGenWeb's Parade of States Awaits! ~*~*~*~ > >-- Table of all States: http://www.usgenweb.org/statelinks-table.html > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== > ~*~*~*~ The Resources in the USGenWeb's Parade of States Awaits! ~*~*~*~ > -- Table of all States: http://www.usgenweb.org/statelinks-table.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Janet, I have a multi-page hard copy listing for Waukau Cemetery that I got from the Wisconsin Genealogical Society. I don't have it in front of me, but I think there was a message stamped on it prohibiting copying unless it was for genealogical research. Let me check the message, and get back to you. If there is no prohibition about putting it on Jan's site, I will share the list. Also, I have some old "copyrighted" post card style photos of Oshkosh done in 1903. Aren't copyrights good for only 100 years? Can I put the photos on Jan's site also? David Griffith Janet Eiler wrote: >I agree. Links on both of the web pages so we and future genealogists can >easily find both sources of info. > >Valentine....I agree with your HIS and HERS....comment. > >I also thank everyone who is staying with Jan Cortez's site. She truly is a >wonderful person to work with and I will continue to send all my cemetery >walks to her at the http://www.jansdigs.com/Winnebago/index.html . > >I have had a very busy and hectic summer and had an engine blow out on one >of our cars. Our second car is now back and I will be getting right on the >cemetery walks...Zittau Immanuel Lutheran Cemetery is next to come as I had >started it before the car problem arose. > >I also plan on getting either Waukau or Eureka (a lot of requests for these >two) Cemetery done this summer. Both are real good sizes > >Janet Eiler > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: ".... valentine53179" <valentine53179@hotmail.com> >To: <WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 11:13 PM >Subject: Re: [WIWinneb'go] Winnebago County WIGenWeb Project site. > > > > >>I for one will be expecting jan's link to be on this page of the genweb... >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb/winnebago/interactive.html >> >>just as on Jan;s page i will be expecting to see the link to the WInnebago >> >> >wegenweb page... > > >>i really dislike hearing anything about HIS and HERS, THEIRS and MINE... >>it tells me that all is not well with the management, let alone with the >> >> >troops.... > > >>it also makes people not comfortable with the placement of their >> >> >works..... > > >>usually, we expect stability.... >>i am not reading this from any of the latest posts... >> >>if you must divorce, then at least have an adult divorce.... and be good >> >> >friends.... > > >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Tina S Vickery >> To: WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 5:39 PM >> Subject: Re: [WIWinneb'go] Winnebago County WIGenWeb Project site. >> >> >> Thank you Janet, your material will not be included. >> >> For the record though, Jan resigned, the site was reassigned, then >> Jan asked to return. I chose not honor her request. The consequence >> of my decision was that many contributors submissions to the >> Winnebago WIGenWeb County site were removed without the contributors >> permission. I told Jan, and I will restate it here. I will honor >> all requests for removal of material, but sincerely hope that many of >> you will choose to have your material remain with WIGenWeb Project >> Winnebago County site. >> >> Sincerely, >> Tina Vickery SC WIGenWeb Project >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Janet Eiler" <jeiler@new.rr.com> >> To: <WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 6:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [WIWinneb'go] Winnebago County WIGenWeb Project site. >> >> >> > Hi List! >> > >> > I wish all my material to go with Jan Cortez, former coordinator of >> >> >the > > >> > www.rootsweb.com/~wiwinneb website. >> > >> > All my previous and future contributions can be found at >> > www.jansdigs.com/Winnebago/index.html . I sent much of my info to Jan >> >> >at > > >> > this website before she went to rootsweb. >> > >> > Jan was forced to give up the rootsweb site. Jan is a wonderful lady >> >> >to > > >> > work with and truly dedicated to our Winnebago County, WI genealogy! >> > >> > Regards, >> > Janet Eiler >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Tina S Vickery" <tsvickery@adelphia.net> >> > To: <WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 12:36 PM >> > Subject: [WIWinneb'go] Winnebago County WIGenWeb Project site. >> > >> > >> > > Hi all -- >> > > >> > > My name is Tina Vickery, and I am the State Coordinator of the >> > > WIGenWeb Project located at http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb. Jan >> > > posted recently that the Winnebago County site has moved. While she >> > > did move it, what she neglected to tell you all is that her role as >> > > Winnebago County Coordinator also ceased. The pages she presents >> >> >are > > >> > > not part of the WIGenWeb Project, and the many submissions that many >> > > of you made are not present on the WIGenWeb Project Pages. She took >> > > the site down, lock, stock, and barrel. >> > > >> > > I have placed a new WIGenWeb Project Winnebago County site at >> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb/winnebago/ and invite all of you >> > > that have contributed to the pages formerly at >> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwinneb to contact me if you wish your >> > > contributions to remain and continue on the WIGenWeb Project >> > > Winnebago site. >> > > >> > > I look forward to hearing from and working with you! >> > > >> > > Tina Vickery >> > > tsvickery@adelphia.net >> > > SC WIGenWeb Project >> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb >> > > >> > > >> > > ==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== >> > > ----------> ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters Permissible Use >> >> ><---------- > > >> > > When typing a surname? YES! Absolutely! A must! For general text? >> >> >NO! > > >> > > It's shouting, bad manners (Netiquette) and hard to find surnames. >> > > >> > > ============================== >> > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >> records, >> > go to: >> > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > ==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== >> > Uh-Oh!!! <----- Missed or deleted a post that might put a crack in >> > your wall? Remember, day & night, the RootsWeb Archives are usually >> > open to browse or search. Go to: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ . >> > >> > ============================== >> > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >> >> >records, > > >> go to: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > >> >> >> ==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== >> ~~ SUBJECT LINES ~~ >> Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! >> The 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >> >> >records, go to: > > >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> >>==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== >>~~ The List's GOLDEN RULE ~~ >>Keep to genealogy, history, anything ancestors! Keep it clean & cool. >>Treat others as you want them to treat you...Positively *NO* selling! >> >>============================== >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >> >> >go to: > > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> > > >==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== >~*~*~*~ The Resources in the USGenWeb's Parade of States Awaits! ~*~*~*~ >-- Table of all States: http://www.usgenweb.org/statelinks-table.html > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Hi Kay, As to the rumors, I can't say. None of us can fortell the future. All I can say is, I hope that this will never be so. I think that it was disconcerting to many of us when a pay site took over RW, but I haven't heard any factual information leading me to believe that this might be in the works. I would hope that should this ever happen, that the County Coordinators would have copies of their sites and they could be uploaded elsewhere. We've all worked long and hard to contribute what we can. All I can say is that the info contributed to the Winnebago AHGP, as long as its in my hands will remain free. I have no intention of selling it, deleting it, or any other such things. I have copies of all of it. Let's think positive for our future! Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "reitstuf" <reitstuf@wi.rr.com> > Will the info submitted to the WIGENWEB site remain free, or will it eventually be claimed by Ancestry.com and charged a fee to see? Now it's free, how about the future? I've been hearing rumors... I wonder if they're true or not? In fact, I've heard that the whole Rootsweb system might become a pay per view site...Any truth to that? > > Kay R

FIRST OFF... do not think that I am writing from the position of ancestry/rootwebs administration because i am not NOT NOT... but, it is always good to remember that unless YOU are the one making the decisions about the website itself, there is never a guarantee that things will remain as they originally were stated, that they will remain free, or they will continue to forge in the direction as they were when you originally joined.... Goals change, environments change, people doing the administering change.... overall ideas change.... when new bits of information come available, things change and when media changes, then a LOT of things change.... Even if YOU YOURSELF control the website, there is a possibility that you might even change how that website looks and what the direction of the website will take..... ANYTHING is possible..... ----- Original Message ----- From: reitstuf To: WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 12:52 PM Subject: [WIWinneb'go] WiGenWeb Will the info submitted to the WIGENWEB site remain free, or will it eventually be claimed by Ancestry.com and charged a fee to see? Now it's free, how about the future? I've been hearing rumors... I wonder if they're true or not? In fact, I've heard that the whole Rootsweb system might become a pay per view site...Any truth to that? Kay R ==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== ?? ROLL CALLS ?? Not permitted unless called for by List Admin. But please post your interests & search areas often. Remember! New members join every day. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Will the info submitted to the WIGENWEB site remain free, or will it eventually be claimed by Ancestry.com and charged a fee to see? Now it's free, how about the future? I've been hearing rumors... I wonder if they're true or not? In fact, I've heard that the whole Rootsweb system might become a pay per view site...Any truth to that? Kay R

I agree. Links on both of the web pages so we and future genealogists can easily find both sources of info. Valentine....I agree with your HIS and HERS....comment. I also thank everyone who is staying with Jan Cortez's site. She truly is a wonderful person to work with and I will continue to send all my cemetery walks to her at the http://www.jansdigs.com/Winnebago/index.html . I have had a very busy and hectic summer and had an engine blow out on one of our cars. Our second car is now back and I will be getting right on the cemetery walks...Zittau Immanuel Lutheran Cemetery is next to come as I had started it before the car problem arose. I also plan on getting either Waukau or Eureka (a lot of requests for these two) Cemetery done this summer. Both are real good sizes Janet Eiler ----- Original Message ----- From: ".... valentine53179" <valentine53179@hotmail.com> To: <WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [WIWinneb'go] Winnebago County WIGenWeb Project site. > I for one will be expecting jan's link to be on this page of the genweb... > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb/winnebago/interactive.html > > just as on Jan;s page i will be expecting to see the link to the WInnebago wegenweb page... > > i really dislike hearing anything about HIS and HERS, THEIRS and MINE... > it tells me that all is not well with the management, let alone with the troops.... > > it also makes people not comfortable with the placement of their works..... > usually, we expect stability.... > i am not reading this from any of the latest posts... > > if you must divorce, then at least have an adult divorce.... and be good friends.... > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tina S Vickery > To: WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 5:39 PM > Subject: Re: [WIWinneb'go] Winnebago County WIGenWeb Project site. > > > Thank you Janet, your material will not be included. > > For the record though, Jan resigned, the site was reassigned, then > Jan asked to return. I chose not honor her request. The consequence > of my decision was that many contributors submissions to the > Winnebago WIGenWeb County site were removed without the contributors > permission. I told Jan, and I will restate it here. I will honor > all requests for removal of material, but sincerely hope that many of > you will choose to have your material remain with WIGenWeb Project > Winnebago County site. > > Sincerely, > Tina Vickery SC WIGenWeb Project > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janet Eiler" <jeiler@new.rr.com> > To: <WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 6:26 PM > Subject: Re: [WIWinneb'go] Winnebago County WIGenWeb Project site. > > > > Hi List! > > > > I wish all my material to go with Jan Cortez, former coordinator of the > > www.rootsweb.com/~wiwinneb website. > > > > All my previous and future contributions can be found at > > www.jansdigs.com/Winnebago/index.html . I sent much of my info to Jan at > > this website before she went to rootsweb. > > > > Jan was forced to give up the rootsweb site. Jan is a wonderful lady to > > work with and truly dedicated to our Winnebago County, WI genealogy! > > > > Regards, > > Janet Eiler > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tina S Vickery" <tsvickery@adelphia.net> > > To: <WIWINNEB-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 12:36 PM > > Subject: [WIWinneb'go] Winnebago County WIGenWeb Project site. > > > > > > > Hi all -- > > > > > > My name is Tina Vickery, and I am the State Coordinator of the > > > WIGenWeb Project located at http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb. Jan > > > posted recently that the Winnebago County site has moved. While she > > > did move it, what she neglected to tell you all is that her role as > > > Winnebago County Coordinator also ceased. The pages she presents are > > > not part of the WIGenWeb Project, and the many submissions that many > > > of you made are not present on the WIGenWeb Project Pages. She took > > > the site down, lock, stock, and barrel. > > > > > > I have placed a new WIGenWeb Project Winnebago County site at > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb/winnebago/ and invite all of you > > > that have contributed to the pages formerly at > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwinneb to contact me if you wish your > > > contributions to remain and continue on the WIGenWeb Project > > > Winnebago site. > > > > > > I look forward to hearing from and working with you! > > > > > > Tina Vickery > > > tsvickery@adelphia.net > > > SC WIGenWeb Project > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigenweb > > > > > > > > > ==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== > > > ----------> ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters Permissible Use <---------- > > > When typing a surname? YES! Absolutely! A must! For general text? NO! > > > It's shouting, bad manners (Netiquette) and hard to find surnames. > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== > > Uh-Oh!!! <----- Missed or deleted a post that might put a crack in > > your wall? Remember, day & night, the RootsWeb Archives are usually > > open to browse or search. Go to: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ . > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== > ~~ SUBJECT LINES ~~ > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! > The 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== WIWINNEB Mailing List ==== > ~~ The List's GOLDEN RULE ~~ > Keep to genealogy, history, anything ancestors! Keep it clean & cool. > Treat others as you want them to treat you...Positively *NO* selling! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Jan, I do not want my contributions on the WIGenWeb site. Please keep them on your pages. Shari Milks