This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TFC.2ACE/11.49.263.264.267.2.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for your reply. I am just beginning to gather Klug information and would love to share what I have.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TFC.2ACE/11.49.263.264.267.2 Message Board Post: Rev. Klug was a pastor and friend of my Brede / Bradee and Xommer(s)family for many years. I am most interested in the Trinity Church community -- my great grandparents were married in Feb. 1870 at Trinity before the "Rooster" Church opened. I would like to trade pictures and other information about this family and their connections to the Brookfield German community. Penny Ziemer Ford Denver

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TFC.2ACE/11.49.267 Message Board Post: I wonder if you would be able to look up William BRADEE of Brookfield? Also, I would most appreciate all information on any members of the ZIEMER family living in Waukesha County in 1928. Thank you. Penny Ziemer Ford Denver

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TFC.2ACE/11.49.263.264.267.1 Message Board Post: Here you go: Klug, Rev August (sp Wilhelmina Dummer). Children Cordelia, Theophil [both at home], Adolph, Waldemar, Irene, Aarmin [remainder of children shown as not living at home] Residence 5 yrs at Brookfield, Roo1, Blookfield Sec 4 O6a, Trinity Evang. Synod Church. Wis Tel(ephone) Milwaukee. I checked for other Dummers but none were listed. Other Klugs listed in the book Bernard, spouse Emma Frank Gothelf, spouse Minnie Groth Henry A, spouse Johanna Whitaker Herman, no spouse, living with mother Mrs. Frederica Klug and sister Miss Anna Klug Richard F, spouse Mabel Weed William, spouse Wilemina Miller Klug, William, spouse Emma Wanderschneider Good luck to you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: LARTZ and LARTZ Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TFC.2ACE/591 Message Board Post: Does anyone know if an application for marriage was required in 1924, or was the license only issued? I found 2 cousins in my family, Herman and Anna who married each other. I sure would like to find out who their parents were. Would the application or license list the parents names and place of birth. They were about 53 when they married. Would a death certificate be more informative than a marriage record? Thanks for any help :-)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Klug, Dummer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TFC.2ACE/11.49.263.264.267 Message Board Post: I found your message while looking for Klugs. My husband is the grandson of the Rev. August Klug listed in your message. Would you please provide the full text pertaining to Rev. Klug's family? Thanks!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ZILLMER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TFC.2ACE/590 Message Board Post: In the "Historic Landmark Tour Brookfield - Elm Grove, Wisconsin", a book prepared by the Kettle Moraine Questers No. 349, there is a picture on Page 30 of "early 1900's" students. Does anyone know what year this picture was taken and names of any of these students? I would be very much appreciative of any info I could get regarding this as both my father and grandfather attended this school.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TFC.2ACE/384.2.1 Message Board Post: Hi Mark. Unfortunately, I do not have any further information on the Williams' family. Sorry I could not help. Deborah

That could be John Samuel Williams, son of John A Williams. Check the "Welsh Pioneers of Waukesha Co" on the Waukesha website for this family. David Jones

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TFC.2ACE/384.1.2 Message Board Post: Bob, have you ever come across a John S. Williams, Bible Christian minister who was in the Palmyra/Eagle area late 1850's early 1860's. Two of his children were supposedly born in Palmyra in 1861 and 1863. His oldest child signed up for Civil War service in 1864 from La Grange. There were quoted to be nine in the family but finding the other members has been difficult to date.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TFC.2ACE/384.2 Message Board Post: I am interested in a Williams family possibly in Palmyra or the surrounding area. The person is John Williams, a Bible Christian minister who supposedly had two children born in Wisconsin, one in 1861 and one in 1863. I know that by 1867 he had been relocated back to Canada. He was born 1809 in Wales and married Elizabeth Riden and their first child was born in 1845 in Brighton, Sussex. One of his sons wrote that John was born in Wales as well as his father. John died in 1895 when this son was 32 years old so this should have been first hand knowledge. Since he was a minister I have searched to see if his name was on any marriage or death notice but have found none to date. If you know anything of him, I would be grateful.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TFC.2ACE/583.1 Message Board Post: Barbara ~ I'd be happy to look for your Laurina if you can tell me approximately what timeframe to look in? The databases are often divided by year spans ~ e.g., Did Laurina live in the 1840s, the 1950s? etc. Best~ Kathe C.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TFC.2ACE/589 Message Board Post: 1880 census lists a Barzilla Douglas at Pewaukee Wis. Age 73, born N.Y. wife Abby, age 63 ,born N.Y. May be related to Clinton. Need vitals on Barzilla. Could his father be George?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: RIGGLE HEARD HURD HIRD Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TFC.2ACE/588 Message Board Post: Looking for any descendants of Hannah Riggle & Charles Heard/Hurd/Hird married 23 August 1863 in Waukesha Co, WI.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MAIR Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TFC.2ACE/587 Message Board Post: I am looking for further details to be found in the death records for the following two people: James MAIR born Scotland, Jan or Jun 2 1830 died Feb 3 1901, and his wife Anna MAIR (maiden name unknown) born Ireland June 18 1844 died Feb 1904. Information taken from Covenanter's Cemetery, Vernon UP. Not quite sure where the relevant records would be kept (Waukesha County Courthouse?), but where-ever it is, would it be possible for anyone going there to look these ones up? Brian Mair New Zealand

1880 Wisconsin Federal Census Source Information: Census Place Buffalo, Marquette, Wisconsin Family History Library Film 1255435 NA Film Number T9-1435 Page Number 506B James MAIR Self M Male W 62 SCOT Farmer SCOT SCOT Mary MAIR Wife M Female W 57 IRE Keeping House IRE IRE Thomas MAIR Son S Male W 18 WI At Home SCOT IRE 1880 Wisconsin Federal Census Source Information: Census Place Vernon, Waukesha, Wisconsin Family History Library Film 1255451 NA Film Number T9-1451 Page Number 262B James MAIR Self M Male W 50 SCOT Farmer SCOT SCOT Anna MAIR Wife M Female W 35 WI Housekeeper IRE IRE John MAIR Son S Male W 13 WI SCOT WI Maryan MAIR Dau S Female W 11 WI SCOT WI Alexander MAIR Son S Male W 6 WI SCOT WI Sarah MAIR Dau S Female W 3 WI SCOT WI Willie MAIR Son S Male W 1 WI SCOT WI 1880 Wisconsin Federal Census Source Information: Census Place Wyocena, Columbia, Wisconsin Family History Library Film 1255420 NA Film Number T9-1420 Page Number 306C George MAIR Self M Male W 33 SCOT Farmer SCOT SCOT Sarah M. MAIR Wife M Female W 33 WI Keeping House SCOT MA Georgetta MAIR Dau S Female W 13 WI At School SCOT WI David MAIR Son S Male W 7 WI SCOT WI James MAIR Son S Male W 3 WI SCOT WI Joseph LUMLY SSon S Male W 16 WI At School NY WI 1880 Wisconsin Federal Census Census Place 1st Ward, Racine, Racine, Wisconsin Family History Library Film 1255443 NA Film Number T9-1443 Page Number 326B James MAIR Other S Male W 26 WI Carpenter SCOT SCOT (apparently he is residing in a rooming house) 1860 Federal Census, Waukesha County, town of Vernon, page 181: Howie, Margaret, age 45, farmer, value of real estate $5,000, value of personal estate $400, born Scotland Howie, Janet, age 15, born Wisconsin, attended school within the year Howie, Thomas, age 11, born Wisconsin, attended school within the year Howie, Mathew, age 9, born Wisconsin, attended school within the year Howie, David, age 3, born Wisconsin Mair, James, age 30, farm laborer, born Scotland Purvis, John, age 21, farm laborer, born Scotland 1880 Wisconsin Federal Census Source Information: Census Place Greenfield, Sauk, Wisconsin Family History Library Film 1255446 NA Film Number T9-1446 Page Number 126C James MAIR Self M Male W 27 WI Farmer SCOT SCOT Margret MAIR Wife M Female W 25 WI Keeping House ENG SCOT David W. MAIR Son S Male W 5 WI WI WI Matthew MAIR Son S Male W 3 WI WI WI James MAIR Son S Male W 1 WI WI WI 1880 Wisconsin Federal Census Source Information: Census Place Greenfield, Sauk, Wisconsin Family History Library Film 1255446 NA Film Number T9-1446 Page Number 126C James MAIR Self M Male W 27 WI Farmer SCOT SCOT Margret MAIR Wife M Female W 25 WI Keeping House ENG SCOT David W. MAIR Son S Male W 5 WI WI WI Matthew MAIR Son S Male W 3 WI WI WI James MAIR Son S Male W 1 WI WI WI 1870 Wisconsin Federal Census Waukesha County, Town of Vernon, page 453 household #160, family #159 Fraser, Hugh, age 56, farmer, land value ^6,200, personal estate $2,000, born Scotland Mair, JAmes, age 36, farm laborer, born Scotland 1870 Wisconsin Federal Census, Marquette Co., township of Buffalo, page 527 Mair, James, age 52, farmer, real estate valued at $2,300, personal estate valued at $785, born Scotland Mair, Mary, age 49, keeping house, born Scotland Mair, George, age 18 farmer, born Wisconsin, attended school within the year Mair, James, age 16, farmer, born Wisconsin, attended school within the year Mair, Frederick, age 14, farmer, born Wisconsin, attended school within the year Mair, Charles, age 12, attending school, born Wisconsin, attended school within the year Mair, Thomas, age 9, born Wisconsin, attended school within the year 1870 Wisconsin Federal Census, Chippewa County, Chippewa Falls, page 362 Mair, James, age 38, lawyer, real estate $200, born Scotland Mair, Margaret, age 28, keeping house, born Scotland Mair, Margaret, age 6, at school Mair, James, age 4, attending school, born Canada Mair, David, age 2, attending school, born Canada Beverd, Eliabeth, age 23, domestic servent, Scotland 1860 Federal Census, Marquette County, town of Buffalo, page 4: Mair, James, age 42, farmer, value of real estate $1,000, value of personal estate $275 Mair, Mary A., age 35, born Ireland Mair, George, age 9, born Wisconsin, attended school within the year Mair, James, age 6, born Wisconsin, attended school within the year Mair, Frederick, age 4, born Wisconsin Mair, Charles, age 2, born Wisconsin I850 Federal Census, Dodge County, town of Chester, page 39A Mair, James, age 30 (or 36-it's hard to read), farmer, born Scotland, value of real estate $1,000, married within the year Mair, Mary A., age 27, born Ireland, married with the year Reilly, Mary, age 64, born Ireland Chestie(hard to read), Robert, age 30, laborer, born Scotland Wisconsin Marriage: Mary Ann Reily to James Mair on 14 Jun 1850, in Dodge County, volume 3, page 323 Wisconsin Marriage: Carrie Tomson to James Mair, 22 Nov 1905, in Columbia County, volume 5, page 0148 Wisconsin Marriage: Margaret Elgie to James Mair, 31 Dec 1873, in Columbia County, volume 2, page 217 Wisconsin Marriage: Jennie B. Nase to James Mair, 30 Oct 1881, in Racine County, volume 3, page 47 Wisconsin Marriage: Maude Weeks to James Mair, Jr, 15 Dec 1897, Chippewa County, volume 2 page 428 Wisconsin Land Records: James Mair, LaCrosse County, document #12148, 200 acres on August 1, 1858 (Land description: S1/2NW Township 24N Range 13W Section15, NESW Township 24N Range 13W Section 15, and W1/2SE Township 24N Range 13W Section 15W) Shari > Surnames: MAIR, MORTON, HOWIE > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TFC.2ACE/586 > > Message Board Post: > > 1. Can anyone provide information relative to a James MAIR who is believed to have married a Mary HOWIE. Mary was the daughter of Thomas HOWIE and Mary MORTON and b 1839 in Ayrshire. James Mair may have been born late 1820s/early 30s in Ayrshire, and may have married late 1850s/early 1860s. > > 2. Does anyone have information on the James MAIR who married Anna Unknown, and who lived in Vernon and had at least a John, MaryAnn, Alexander, Sarah, and Willie.? > > 3. Does anyone have information on any other James MAIRs in the area?....in the 1845-1900 timeframe? > > Thank you > > > ==== WIWAUKES Mailing List ==== > The Waukesha County Mailing List is maintained by Ellen Rohr, > Waukesha County, WIGenWeb Coordinator. If you have a problems or > concerns, please contact me at waukesha@linkstothepast.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MAIR, MORTON, HOWIE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TFC.2ACE/586 Message Board Post: 1. Can anyone provide information relative to a James MAIR who is believed to have married a Mary HOWIE. Mary was the daughter of Thomas HOWIE and Mary MORTON and b 1839 in Ayrshire. James Mair may have been born late 1820s/early 30s in Ayrshire, and may have married late 1850s/early 1860s. 2. Does anyone have information on the James MAIR who married Anna Unknown, and who lived in Vernon and had at least a John, MaryAnn, Alexander, Sarah, and Willie.? 3. Does anyone have information on any other James MAIRs in the area?....in the 1845-1900 timeframe? Thank you

What worked for me was to find the churches attended by my family members during their early years in the U.S. Frequently, on such occasions as marriage and funeral, the pastor would record the place of birth. Some pastors also recorded the place of birth in a list of the members of the churches as they joined. In the obituary, perhaps a church name is given for the place of the funeral of your grandfather and / or grandmother and you could start there and work backwards. The other source may be immigration records, including the Hamburg lists in Germany (on LDS microfilm) and the microfilm of ship passenger lists available at many historical society libraries. The book Germans to America may have listings for your family members though I am not sure what year those indexes to to -- maybe not this late. Naturalization records may have the month and year of arrival and the port, in which case you can (spending a few days) search through the microfilms for that month and one or two before and after to see if you can find them. Naturalization records for siblings will be as good as those of other child immigrants, usually, in cases where a direct ancestor did not get naturalized. Also, since your names are not common, you could join an online group for East Prussia and put up a message there to see if other displaced and immigrant family members answer. Sometimes one finds surprising results from such messages. Here is one resource, if you do not already belong: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PRUSSIA-ROOTS.html Let us know how this comes along. Penny David Wade wrote: > Hi Penny, > > I see you probably have my questions answered in this email. Do you > think the natualization records would have anything on Charlotte > Sowatzke? I know she was born in 1868 in East Prussia and if she came > to America in 1886, she would have been 18. In the obituary for my > grandfather, it stated that they were married April 14, 1886. My goal > is to try and find out where in East Prussia she was born. Do you have > any suggestions where or how to find that? > > Thank you, > Lois Wade > > Penny Ziemer Ford wrote: > > >These families both lived in Wood County, Wisconsin in 1920. It appears as if > >there was a family of Sowatzkes, including two > >brothers, William and John, ages 22 and 25 in 1920, both born in Wisconsin (these > >lived in Grand Rapids, Wood Co., > >Wisconsin) and their sister Cary, age 42. Her parents were born in Prussia -- the > >way censuses are noted, they could well > >have been born in West Prussia. There also was a Charles Sowatzke at 606 Cherry > >Street in Marshfield, Wood County, in his > >30's, I think (did not take good notes) in the 1920 census. I found an additional > >member, a young woman named Anna, > >working as a servant somewhere in Wood County, but she was the first I found and I > >forgot to take notes, then could not find > >her again. I think her name must be spelled slightly differently by the census > >taker. > >Most of the Schallas in Wisconsin at this time, and most of the Sowatzkes, lived in > >Wood County. I think that you might try > >finding out who has a naturalization index (the county historical society, maybe?) > >and emailing or calling them for the names of > >all the folks of each of these names naturalized in the county. > >The social security death index has a Walter Sowatzke, born 11 November 1916 in > >Waukesha, showing that people of this > >name had been there. Perhaps you will find naturalization records for them in > >Waukesha County, as well. > >Good luck, and please let us know what you find. > >Penny Ziemer Ford > >Granddaughter of Hank Ziemer of the Arcadia Garage, Calhoun, Wisconsin > > > >David Wade wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I send a message a week or so ago, but have not had any response, so > > I'm trying again. I would like any information on the surnames Schalla > > and/or Sowatzke. The information I have is that my grandparents, August > > Schalla and Charlotte (Lottie) Sowatzke were married in Waukesha, April > > 14, 1886. > > > > Any information coucerning either or both surnames would be helpful! > > > > Thank you, > > Lois Wade > > > > ==== WIWAUKES Mailing List ==== > > The Waukesha County Mailing List is maintained by Ellen Rohr, > > Waukesha County, WIGenWeb Coordinator. If you have a problems or > > concerns, please contact me at waukesha@linkstothepast.com > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > > > > > > >==== WIWAUKES Mailing List ==== > >The Waukesha County Mailing List is maintained by Ellen Rohr, > >Waukesha County, WIGenWeb Coordinator. If you have a problems or > >concerns, please contact me at waukesha@linkstothepast.com > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ==== WIWAUKES Mailing List ==== > The Waukesha County Mailing List is maintained by Ellen Rohr, > Waukesha County, WIGenWeb Coordinator. If you have a problems or > concerns, please contact me at waukesha@linkstothepast.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Penny, I see you probably have my questions answered in this email. Do you think the natualization records would have anything on Charlotte Sowatzke? I know she was born in 1868 in East Prussia and if she came to America in 1886, she would have been 18. In the obituary for my grandfather, it stated that they were married April 14, 1886. My goal is to try and find out where in East Prussia she was born. Do you have any suggestions where or how to find that? Thank you, Lois Wade Penny Ziemer Ford wrote: >These families both lived in Wood County, Wisconsin in 1920. It appears as if >there was a family of Sowatzkes, including two >brothers, William and John, ages 22 and 25 in 1920, both born in Wisconsin (these >lived in Grand Rapids, Wood Co., >Wisconsin) and their sister Cary, age 42. Her parents were born in Prussia -- the >way censuses are noted, they could well >have been born in West Prussia. There also was a Charles Sowatzke at 606 Cherry >Street in Marshfield, Wood County, in his >30's, I think (did not take good notes) in the 1920 census. I found an additional >member, a young woman named Anna, >working as a servant somewhere in Wood County, but she was the first I found and I >forgot to take notes, then could not find >her again. I think her name must be spelled slightly differently by the census >taker. >Most of the Schallas in Wisconsin at this time, and most of the Sowatzkes, lived in >Wood County. I think that you might try >finding out who has a naturalization index (the county historical society, maybe?) >and emailing or calling them for the names of >all the folks of each of these names naturalized in the county. >The social security death index has a Walter Sowatzke, born 11 November 1916 in >Waukesha, showing that people of this >name had been there. Perhaps you will find naturalization records for them in >Waukesha County, as well. >Good luck, and please let us know what you find. >Penny Ziemer Ford >Granddaughter of Hank Ziemer of the Arcadia Garage, Calhoun, Wisconsin > >David Wade wrote: > > Hi, > > I send a message a week or so ago, but have not had any response, so > I'm trying again. I would like any information on the surnames Schalla > and/or Sowatzke. The information I have is that my grandparents, August > Schalla and Charlotte (Lottie) Sowatzke were married in Waukesha, April > 14, 1886. > > Any information coucerning either or both surnames would be helpful! > > Thank you, > Lois Wade > > ==== WIWAUKES Mailing List ==== > The Waukesha County Mailing List is maintained by Ellen Rohr, > Waukesha County, WIGenWeb Coordinator. If you have a problems or > concerns, please contact me at waukesha@linkstothepast.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > > >==== WIWAUKES Mailing List ==== >The Waukesha County Mailing List is maintained by Ellen Rohr, >Waukesha County, WIGenWeb Coordinator. If you have a problems or >concerns, please contact me at waukesha@linkstothepast.com > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

These families both lived in Wood County, Wisconsin in 1920. It appears as if there was a family of Sowatzkes, including two brothers, William and John, ages 22 and 25 in 1920, both born in Wisconsin (these lived in Grand Rapids, Wood Co., Wisconsin) and their sister Cary, age 42. Her parents were born in Prussia -- the way censuses are noted, they could well have been born in West Prussia. There also was a Charles Sowatzke at 606 Cherry Street in Marshfield, Wood County, in his 30's, I think (did not take good notes) in the 1920 census. I found an additional member, a young woman named Anna, working as a servant somewhere in Wood County, but she was the first I found and I forgot to take notes, then could not find her again. I think her name must be spelled slightly differently by the census taker. Most of the Schallas in Wisconsin at this time, and most of the Sowatzkes, lived in Wood County. I think that you might try finding out who has a naturalization index (the county historical society, maybe?) and emailing or calling them for the names of all the folks of each of these names naturalized in the county. The social security death index has a Walter Sowatzke, born 11 November 1916 in Waukesha, showing that people of this name had been there. Perhaps you will find naturalization records for them in Waukesha County, as well. Good luck, and please let us know what you find. Penny Ziemer Ford Granddaughter of Hank Ziemer of the Arcadia Garage, Calhoun, Wisconsin David Wade wrote: Hi, I send a message a week or so ago, but have not had any response, so I'm trying again. I would like any information on the surnames Schalla and/or Sowatzke. The information I have is that my grandparents, August Schalla and Charlotte (Lottie) Sowatzke were married in Waukesha, April 14, 1886. Any information coucerning either or both surnames would be helpful! Thank you, Lois Wade ==== WIWAUKES Mailing List ==== The Waukesha County Mailing List is maintained by Ellen Rohr, Waukesha County, WIGenWeb Coordinator. If you have a problems or concerns, please contact me at waukesha@linkstothepast.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: