This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mjancestor2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.walworth/2440.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Using the wasy it sounds, this seems to be the man you are looking for. 1880 United States Federal Census about Carl Maulch Name: Carl Maulch Home in 1880: Lyons, Walworth, Wisconsin Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Birthplace: Saxony Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) Spouse's Name: Fredrica Father's birthplace: Saxony Mother's Name: Bariba Mother's birthplace: Saxony Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Farmer Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Household Members: Name Age Carl Maulch 41 head Fredrica Maulch 38 wife, b. Prussia Fred Maulch 14 son Semon Maulch 12 son Minnie Maulch 10 daughter Martha Maulch 8 daughter Lewis Maulch 6 son Rudolph Maulch 4 son Christian Maulch 1 son Bariba Maulch 77 mother, b. Saxony, parents b. Saxony, widowed all children b. WI Looks like all children of Carl - but if Carl & Frederika were married in 1873, they wouldn't all be children of Frederika, or your marriage date is off. ******************** Wisconsin State Censuses, 1895 and 1905 about Carl Malsch Name: Carl Malsch Census Date: 1 Jun 1905 Residence County: Walworth Residence State: Wisconsin Locality: Lyons Birth Location: Germany Marital Status: Widowed Gender: Male Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Race: White Relation: Head Line: 3 Roll: CSUSAWI1905_30 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Carl Malsch 66 Rudolph Malsch 27 (b. abt 1878) Christopher Malsch 25 (b. abt 1880) *************** 1910 United States Federal Census about Carl Malsch Name: Carl Malsch Age in 1910: 71 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Birthplace: Germany Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Germany Mother's Birth Place: Germany Home in 1910: Lyons, Walworth, Wisconsin Marital Status: Widowed Race: White Gender: Male Year of Immigration: 1859 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Carl Malsch 71 farmer Rudolph Malsch 33 farm laborer Christian Malsch 31 farm laborer ************* 1900 United States Federal Census about Rudolph Malck Name: Rudolph Malck Home in 1900: Lyons, Walworth, Wisconsin Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Birthplace: Wisconsin Relationship to head-of-house: Son Parent's Name: Carl Race: White Occupation: View Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Carl Malck 61 b. Oct 1838, widowed, m. 33 years with line through it (would make 1st marriage 1867, which fits ages of children, though not nec. Frederika), in country 41 years, naturalized, farmer Rudolph Malck 23 b. July 1876 Christian Malck 21 b. Dec 1878 Sarrah Malck 17 b. Nov 1883 next door is Malch, George S., b. Dec 1867 Malch, Fred C., brother, b Nov 1867 both say age 32, but birthdates a month off, same year - guess fro matching 1880 census - "George S" is "Sermon" who should be about 32, and "Fred C." is 1880s "Fred" who should be about 34 ************ World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Christian Malsch Name: Christian Malsch City: Not Stated Rd. 1 Lyons County: Walworth State: Wisconsin Birth Date: 23 Dec 1879 Race: White Roll: 1674998 DraftBoard: 0 Age: 39 Occupation: farmer Nearest Relative: Carl Malsch Height/Build: med/slender Color of Eyes/Hair: grey/sandy Sept 12, 1918 World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Herman Malsch Name: Herman Malsch City: Not Stated County: Walworth State: Wisconsin Birth Date: 1 Nov 1874 Race: White Roll: 1674998 DraftBoard: 0 Age: 43 Occupation: contractor, Reinhart & Malsch, Lake Geneva Nearest Relative: Mrs. Nina Malsch, 603 S. King, Lake Geneva Height/Build: med/med Color of Eyes/Hair: brown/dark Sept 12, 1918 World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Rudolph Casper Malsch Name: Rudolph Casper Malsch City: Not Stated RD 1, Lyons County: Walworth State: Wisconsin Birth Date: 20 Jul 1876 Race: White Roll: 1674998 DraftBoard: 0 Age: 42 Occupation: farmer Nearest Relative: Carl Malsch Height/Build: med/slender Color of Eyes/Hair: grey/black June 12, 1918 World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Lewis Malsch Name: Lewis Malsch City: Not Stated Springfield, WI County: Walworth State: Wisconsin Birthplace: Wisconsin;United States of America Birth Date: 18 Jun 1888 Race: Caucasian (White) Roll: 1674998 DraftBoard: 0 Age: 28 Occupation: day laborer support of mother, not named Height/Build: tall/med Color of Eyes/Hair: blue/light dependant mother June 5, 1917 Note - this does not necessarily fit the census children of Carl & Frederika, but is in the same area. ALso, if he has dependant mother, but Carl is widower in 1900, either divorce, or not connected. World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Louis Carl Malsch Name: Louis Carl Malsch City: Not Stated County: Walworth State: Wisconsin Birth Date: 6 Apr 1874 Race: White Roll: 1674998 DraftBoard: 0 Age: 44 Occupation: laborer for Tracy Drake Nearest Relative: Mrs. Mae Malsch, Lake Geneva Height/Build: med/med Color of Eyes/Hair: grey/dark Sept 12, 1918 ************************** Wisconsin State Censuses, 1895 and 1905 about Louis Malsch Name: Louis Malsch Census Date: 1 Jun 1905 Residence County: Walworth Residence State: Wisconsin Locality: Bloomfield Birth Location: Wisconsin Marital Status: Married Gender: Male Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Race: White Relation: Head Spouse's Name: May Line: 39 Roll: CSUSAWI1905_30 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Louis Malsch 30 May Malsch 23 Florence Malsch 4 George Malsch 2 **************** 1900 United States Federal Census about Louis W Malsch Name: Louis W Malsch Home in 1900: Mason City, Cerro Gordo, Iowa Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Birthplace: Wisconsin Relationship to head-of-house: Brother-in-law Race: White Occupation: View Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age O E Jacobson 29 head (page is too dark to read on O.E.- might be AE??) Minnie T Jacobson 30 wife b. Mar 1870, b. WI, dressmaker, 0 children, married 0 years Louis W Malsch 26 brother-in-law, b. April 1874, b. WI, carpenter - house James M Ross 26 boarder Eighth St. ***************** 1910 United States Federal Census about Minnie Robinson Name: Minnie Robinson Age in 1910: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Birthplace: Wisconsin Relation to Head of House: Wife Father's Birth Place: Wisconsin Mother's Birth Place: Wisconsin Spouse's Name: Arthur E Home in 1910: Walworth, Walworth, Wisconsin Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Female Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Arthur E Robinson 36 Minnie Robinson 32 **************** New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Barbara Malsch Name: Barbara Malsch Arrival Date: 8 May 1860 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804 Age: 56 Gender: Female Port of Departure: Bremen, Germany Destination: Wisconsin Place of Origin: Germany Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: German Ship Name: Atalanta Search Ship Database: Search the Atalanta in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: New York Line: 11 Microfilm Serial: M237 Microfilm Roll: M237_200 List Number: 355 Port Arrival State: New York Port Arrival Country: United States New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Sebastian Malsch Name: Sebastian Malsch Arrival Date: 8 May 1860 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804 Age: 56 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Bremen, Germany Destination: Wisconsin Place of Origin: Germany Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: German Ship Name: Atalanta Search Ship Database: Search the Atalanta in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: New York Line: 10 Microfilm Serial: M237 Microfilm Roll: M237_200 List Number: 355 Port Arrival State: New York Port Arrival Country: United States ********************** Fits to be Freid(rich) Carl????? New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Fried C Malsch Name: Fried C Malsch Arrival Date: 7 Nov 1859 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Age: 20 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Bremen, Germany Destination: Wisconsin Place of Origin: Saxony (Kingdom State) Ship Name: Republic Search Ship Database: Search the Republic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: New York Line: 29 Microfilm Serial: M237 Microfilm Roll: M237_196 List Number: 1092 Port Arrival State: New York Port Arrival Country: United States farmer ********************** Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s about Sebastion Malsch Name: Sebastion Malsch Year: 1864 Place: Wisconsin Source Publication Code: 3839.20 Primary Immigrant: Malsch, Sebastion Annotation: Most are date and place of declaration of intention to become a citizen; some are date and place of naturalization. Date and place of birth or source of original record may also be provided. Page numbers were supplied by the indexers. Source Bibliography: KJENDLIE, DONNA. Index to Records of Naturalizations and Declarations of Intent, Book One. Walworth County, WI: Walworth County Genealogical Society, Inc., 2000. [93p.] Page: 47 ****************** Wrong county - but she may have been in a hospital - worth checking: Wisconsin Deaths, 1820-1907 about Frieda Elisa Malsch Name: Frieda Elisa Malsch Death Date: 01 Aug 1892 County: Milwaukee Volume: 16 Page #: 0099 Reel: 073 Image: 2799 Index Volume: 05 ImageNum: 103303 Sequence #: 239988 Level Info: Wisconsin Vital Records Death Index. *************** Seems Carl was in 1910 census, not 1920, but named in 1918 WWI draft cards, narrowing death to PROBABLY June 1918-1920. Frederika has a child in 1883 (Sarrah), but she is not in 1900 census. ********** Possibility??? Wisconsin Deaths, 1820-1907 about Freda H Malsch Name: Freda H Malsch Death Date: 24 Sep 1899 County: Walworth Volume: 02 Page #: 0450 Reel: 131 Image: 0744 Index Volume: - ImageNum: 103303 Sequence #: 239987 Level Info: Wisconsin Vital Records Death Index. ******************* Wisconsin Deaths, 1820-1907 about Sarah Elizabet Malsch Name: Sarah Elizabet Malsch Death Date: 30 Jun 1902 County: Walworth Volume: 03 Page #: 0091 Reel: 131 Image: 1743 Index Volume: - ImageNum: 103303 Sequence #: 239989 Level Info: Wisconsin Vital Records Death Index. ************** looks like MALCH, but indexed as MATCH 1870 United States Federal Census about Frederick Match Name: Frederick Match Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Age in 1870: 4 Birthplace: Wisconsin Home in 1870: Hudson (Lyons), Walworth, Wisconsin Family and neighbors: View Results Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View Image Post Office: Troy Household: Carl, 30, b. Saxony Ann, 76, b. Saxony Frederick, 4, b. WI George, 2, b. WI Williminna, 3/12, b. WI, b. March Frederika, 29, b. Mecklinburg Hambush, 76, farmer, b. Saxony Williminna matches Minnie in 1880, also Minne Robinson This would mean that Frederika & Carl were married at least by 1870 census, and given closeness of ages of children, probably 1875 or so. No wording on who Ann & Hambush are, but possibly parents of either, although listed with same last name as rest of family. Does not fit "Bariba, age 77" listed as Mother in 1880, although might be mother in law or step mother. **************** 1870 also in Hudson, Lyons, Walworth, WI Malsch/Malch Frederick, 38 Christina, 30 William, 9 Mary, 5 all b. Saxony. Probably worth checking if there is some connection. ************* Remember, not usunusual for Germans to have 3 names plus a last, often interchanged. Friedrich Carl might also be known as Carl Freidrich, Freidrich might be shortened to Fried, Fred or Ferd. (although usually by census taker - the person themself would not consider them the same) ************* http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/walworth/cemetery/photo-indexes/wal-hudson.txt Walworth County (Lyons Township) Hudson Cemetery Tombstone Photos Malsch, Carl Malsch, Christian Malsch, Clara E. Malsch, Elisabeth Malsch, Emma A. Malsch, Fred C. Malsch, Friederike Malsch, George S. Malsch, Gordon S. and Edna R. Malsch, Gordon S. Jr. Malsch, Hazel M. Malsch, Rudolph Malsch, Sabastian Malsch, Sara M. Malsch, Sarah E. Go to the webpage for how to contact for copies of photos. Ask how they are arragned in the plot(s) as that can help you determine relationships. There weren't photos on the page itself. Contact the cemetery directly, as they often have more info in their death & burial records. In some cemeteries, they have as much info as a death certificate. THey may have funeral home info as well, and you can see if there is info there. Here are the pages for the stones. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/cemetery/wal-lyonstwp-hudson.html Malsch, Carl Oct __(??20??), 1838 - April 7, 1920 Malsch, Christian Dec 24, 1878-Jan 31, 1944 Malsch, Clara E. (wife of C.S. Malsch) Oct 24, 1888-April 28, 1944 Malsch, Elisabeth July 15, 1803 - Jan 21, 1881 Malsch, Emma A. Died Aug 26, 1877, aged 18 years, 1 mo, 3 da Malsch, Fred C. Nov 29, 1863- Feb 3, 1951 Malsch, Friederike May 12, 1840-Sept 24, 1899 Malsch, George S. Dec 28, 1868 - Dec 4, 1954 Malsch, Gordon S. and Edna R. Gordon - May 12, 1912 - Mar 18, 2006 // Edna Oct 12, 1909 Malsch, Gordon S. Jr. Dec 23, 1938-Jan 22, 1945 Malsch, Hazel M. May 26, 1907 - Nov 2, 1951 Malsch, Rudolph 1875-1960 Malsch, Sabastian Mar 3, 1803 - Mar 22, 1879 Malsch, Sara M. July 11, 1915 - April 19, 2004 Malsch, Sarah E., Dau of C & F Malsch, Nov 2, 1882 - June (30?) 1902 Given that Sabastian and Elizabeth are buried here - My guess is that they are probably parents of Carl - and Sabastian AKA Hamburg - ior when he answered the census it was PLACE, not name. Bariba might be Barbara (Barbara & Sabastian went ot WI together), and Elizabeth might be proper or middle name. You will want to look at the tombstone photos and asssess which are together, and some dates that were hard to read. Sabastians & Elisabeths stones seem to be much more recent stones - could be that they were added much later by a descendant. They don't fit a 1881 timeframe stone. ************ Hope this helps! Good Luck! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.