This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QFC.2ACE/2385.4 Message Board Post: Vernon and Zella are definitely SMITH kids. On the 1880 Mitchell County, Kansas census in Asherville township is listed E. M. Smith, age 32, farming, born Wis. V. L. Smith, age 8, son, born Wis. Zellie L., age 4, daughter, born Kansas. This tells me Sidney must have died out in Kansas. Ellen is listed as a widow. Sidney has to be the papa. In 1900 Ellin M Marshal is age 52, married 19 years to M. Marshal, still in Asherville. So that tells me she married around 1881 to Matthew Marshall.