Hi, Ann: Thanks for your response. I apologize for my delay in responding. It's been a wild week, and I just today had a chance to compare what was in your message against info that I have in my files. It's interesting that you mentioned Coryell Co. since I live in Temple (Bell Co.) just a few miles from the Coryell Co. line. Other nearby counties are Milam, McLennan, Williamson, Falls,McLampasas, and Burnet. I checked the 1880 Census Index for WISE in Coryell Co. and found the following names, some of which have ages and state of birth given in the Soundex: Lemuel, Levi, Reuben H. (26 LA), and William E (24 LA). The index lists the following WISE names for Bell Co.: Francis M. (50 MS), Mary Jane, and Nary or Mary (1858 LA). Do any of these sound familiar? There was another WISE family in Milam Co. in the early days, reportedly coming from the area of Elba, AL via other areas in TX. It was the family of Robert Esson Wise (b. 1860, s/o John Quincy Wise) and Helen Virginia McGehee of Coffee Co., AL. Their children were John A. (b. 1886), Jesse P. (b. 1891), Luther Q. (b. 1894), and Collas L (b. 1896). Most or all of this family eventually left this area. I have been unable to determine whether or not they are related to my WISE line. I wish I knew more about "my" Nathan WISE. I haven't even been able to verify that the Nathan WISE who is reported to be my ancestor is actually the father of my g-g-g-grandfather, Richard WISE, who moved from SC to Pike (Crenshaw) Co., AL. His son, Samuel James WISE, died in Crenshaw Co., after which his daughter-in-law, Caroline (Brunson) Wise, several children moved to Milam Co., TX where many of the WISE descendants still reside. If you'll send me a little more detailed info on your WISE family, I'll see what I can find for you in this area. Until next time, HAPPY HUNTING! Janice * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * At 04:48 PM 3/20/98 -0800, you wrote: >Hello Janice Williams--read your posting of WISE/BULLOCK. > >Observed with interest your Nathaniel "Nathan" Wise b before 1744 in SC. Our earliest known Wise is James Wise b. 1783 possibly VA, possibly Marion Co. SC area. He married Permelia Miller in SC. The name of one of his brothers was Jesse Wise. Possibly their father was Ambrose Wise in SC. > >The Wises travled westward of course, but I do not know whether they ever lived in AL...they DID live in Copiah Co. MS [southern part] for a while, then migrated to Claiborne Parish, LA [northern part]. Some moved on to Texas...Coryell Co. comes to mind. > >One of James' and Permelia's sons was the Rev. David Nathan Wise. There were about 17 other children!! My ancestor was the son Joseph F. Wise. > >Could you give some counties in TX? > >Ann Harper Bonner paternal grandmother was a Wise > >