JWise89025@aol.com wrote: > > Lisa, > Thanks for the e-mail, the names don't ring a bell, but i'm still searching. > I'll keep them in mind and let you know if I find anything. > Thanks again, > Joe Joe, I am at a loss for my ancestors, also. I'll just tell you my story and see what you think. My great great grandfather was Thomas Wise b. about 1824, he was in the Civil War and in his papers he says he was born in Bedford County, Tennessee, but in another place there is Hardeman County, Tennessee. He had a brother William who was a preacher and went to Texas, in his papers he says both his grandfathers fought for the war of the rebellion. His father was Enoch G. Wise and his mother Elizabeth Barrett. William says his father (Enoch) was a pioneer settler of Tennessee, but came from the Carolina's. They left Tennessee and went to Randolph County, Illinois, where another son, Robert Ray Wise was born. Enoch is on the 1840 Census for Randolph County, Illinois, but apparently some of the familiy moved to Missouri and Arkansas. Enoch and Elizabeth are on the 1850 Carroll County, Arkansas census. By 1860 Enoch was not with the family. 1859, Robert Ray Wise married Cleopatra Pyle in Dade County, Missouri. They never had any children, and lived the rest of their lives in Newton County, Missouri. My Thomas Wise married Nancy Standlee and stayed in Carroll County, Arkansas. I also believe there was another son, Stephen Wise, but have lost him somewhere between Arkansas and Missouri. Like you I am not giving up. I went to Shelbyville, Tennessee trying to find something/anything that would link my Wise family to the Henry Wise family and just could not do it. Anything ring a bell. Janet Wise Eiskina