Fred, I have tried to connect our Wise families, but just caint make it fit. Names are are the same, but just caint do it. I do show a Augustus born 1806, in Oglethorpe Co GA, died after 1870 married to Michael "Micca" Wise. Augustus's parents were Joel Wise and Jane Stewart, and Michael's was Jacob Wise and Elizabeth Hubbard(my line). Your line may be from the VAlentine Wise line who were also in Butts Co. at the same time. Let me know what you think. Bill At 02:49 PM 4/11/99 -0600, you wrote: >I continue to seek information on Joe (Josiah in the 1880 Butts Co census, >Joel in the 1870 Jasper Co census), married to Martha Edwards Wise ca 1850, >who's son James Henry Wise (1870-1957 [all dates are subject to the >vageries of memory]) is my great grandfather. Joe's obituary appeared in >the March 1905 (or it could be 03) Argus for Jackson, GA. If the dates for >the census are any where correct, he would have been born about 1830. >According to the federal mortality census of 1880, Martha died of >consumption, and apparantly shortly after, Joe moved the family to Butts, >just down the road from Augustus Wise, then in his seventies or early >eighties. I surmise that Augustus is either Joe's father or his uncle >(since Joe and Martha also named a son Augustus (who prefered for some >reason to be called Gus) now buried at the Liberty Baptist cemetary on the >road to High Falls). According to the 1850 or 40 Jasper census, Joe is >living with an elderly couple named Burge (this same Burge was a witness to >Joel Wise's will, posted on the net as part of the Butts Gen web site or >some related site [again the absence of my notes when writing this letter, >for which I apologize]). I'm curious about the nativity and life of Joe, >the relationship of the Burges, the interplay between the Jasper and Butts >Wise families, and the manner of life of Augustus and Joe (apparantly >wounded at Chickamagua(sp) and having signed an amnesty oath ca 1865). >The Wise's seem to have entered the Butts/Jasper area from VA around the >Chesapeake, migrating to the Augusta area before the Revolution and to have >prized education (if Joel's will is any indication, his providing for the >education of his youngest sons at a local academy), but a story I hear >about my great grandfather Jim was his antagonism towards education, >perhaps an indication of his espousal of Landmark Baptist views, which were >popular during the last part of the 19th century. > >Thanks for any help you can provide on this question. >Fred Wise > > >