Hello Frances and any other descendants of James Wise & Permelia Miller! And Jim Wise, too--are you part of this family?? There are about 15 of us [that I know of] who are researching this line. Somewhere there are surely many others! At least one other one is from Ambrose's line. Some from David, Adah, and Joseph F. Wise. I've just put together a list of these researchers and sent them my line's family group sheets of James Wise, Joseph F. Wise, George Grundy Wise, & Henrietta Ford Wise [my grandmother]--and encouraged all to send their family group sheets. I'll compile a joint report with references to "who said what." I use Family Origins. Some folks can exchange GEDCOMs, I'm sure. PLEASE let me hear from you via personal e-mail, letting me know your address and phone #; I'll mail you the packet I sent everyone else. Ann Harper Bonner gbonner@cbt.net