SYNOPSSI OF WISE: Anna Maria Margaretha Schmidt (later known as Mary Smith) was married to Philip Weiss (Wise). The Schmidts came to America on the Hope in 1733. They came from the community of Ittlingen, which is only about ten miles or so north of Eppingen, where the Huths originated. Anna Maria was the granddaughter of Henrich Schmidt and Anna Margaret Keimen. Their son, Johann Heinrich Schmidt, was born in 1726, while the family was still in Germany. He is the father of Anna Maria. They were neighbors of the Huths in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania and they may have lived close enough to each other in Germany to have also known each other there. Like the Huths, they were also members of the German Reformed congregation, New Goshenhoppen. Anna Maria's sister, Elizabeth, married Philip Wise's brother, Jacob, and her brother, Jacob, married Philip's sister, Elisabetha. So all told, three siblings from one family married three siblings from the other. Weiss (Wise): The surname was originally Weiss. It was Anglicized by Philip Wise in the third generation in America. The earliest record of this family is found in the German Reformed Church records of Lustadt (Oberlustadt), Germany. Lustadt is in the Palatinate about twenty miles southwest of Mannheim, and is possibly one of the towns that the Elector in Mannheim saw burning during the French invasion of 1685. The church records only go back to 1708 here and so they might have been destroyed during the French invasion of 1707. The records between 1708 and 1720 are badly damaged and are mostly unreadable. Johann Georg and Anna Catharina Weiss had six children baptized there between 1721 and 1736. They immigrated in 1738. Very likely the family was separated for the voyage across the Atlantic. Georg is recorded on the passenger list of the Davy. The Davy lost a total of 160 passengers and crew due to disease during the voyage. His oldest son, Christopher, is listed on the passenger list of the Friendship, which arrived in Philadelphia about one month before the Davy. Christopher was the only one old enough to be on the passenger list. (Only those males over age sixteen were listed). The Davy did not carry any children. 1738 was a devastating year for the immigrants. An epidemic had been started in the holding camp outside Rotterdam, where the immigrants were waiting their turn to get on the ships and there was an increased mortality in the camps and on the ships that departed for America all during that year. There are records in America for four of the Weiss children, Christopher, Erhard, Carl and Elizabeth. Two children who show up on the German records, Maria Magdalena and Catharina are not found and they are presumed to have died. There is a possibility of at least one additional son. There is family lore that I received from two totally different sources of a son, George, who was born at sea. There have been probate records found for Johann Georg Weiss for the year 1743. His son, our ancestor Erhard, married Susanna Huth probably about 1747, and the baptisms of their children are found in the New Goshenhoppen Reformed Church records in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania. The birth of their son Philip Weiss (Wise) in 1748 is recorded in those church records. Philip married Anna Maria Margareta Schmidt (Mary Smith) in 1776. They subsequently moved to Chester County, then to York County (both in Pennsylvania) and then on to Belmont County, Ohio. They are the parents of my great-great grandfather, John Wise. CARPE DIEM. Lori : ) in Arizona formally from Washington, PA. In a message dated 10/23/2008 11:41:32 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, [email protected] writes: My husband is descended from this line, he is Johann's fifth great grandson: I would love to connect with you. Johann Adam Wise b . 1718 Grosswinterheim, Rheinish Hess, Hesse Darmstadt, Germany d. 9Jun1781 Washington County, PA had 8 children, one is: Jacob Wise Sr. b. 1763 Frederick County, MD d. bet. 1850-1860 Jefferson County, Missouri wife is Anna "Nancy" Rice had 6 children, one is Jonathan R. Wise b. abt 1811 Jefferson County, Kentucky d. 1866 Jefferson County, Missouri wife was Laura had 3 children, one is: Noah Wise b. 1836 Jefferson County, Missouri d. 1865 same place wife was Catherine Elizabeth Burgess had 3 children, one is: Angelina "Ina" Wise b. June 1860 d. 8Jun1948 both in Jefferson County, Missouri husband was Jonathan Edward Craft had only one child: Charles Monte Craft b. 16Jul1892 Jefferson County, Missouri d. 11Jul1967 Festus, Jefferson County, Missouri wife was Esther Frances Moss had only one child: Esther Catherine Craft b. 24aug1924 Pevely, Jefferson County, Missouri d. 21Nov2000 San Jose, California husband was Earl Eugene Evens Sr. had 2 children, one was: William S. Evens, my husband! I have photos of Angelina Wise Craft and her mother Catherine Elizabeth Burgess Wise Grate and a fantastic story about how Noah Wise died during the civil war, gunned down on his own property, while daughters Ina and Laura watched.? His wife Catherine lay in bed having recently given birth to son Uriah.? This story is recounted by Ina in her older years.? Willing to share info. Brigitte [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Mary Ward <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 7:35 pm Subject: Re: [WISE] new member. Hey Karen - me too. Johann Adam Wise, born 1718, Germany, died 1781, Washington County, PA. Any connection? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Haney" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISE] new member. Hello Ray, My Wise Family came from Germany and settled in Pennsylvania in the 1700s. Sorry. Cheers, Karen Haney in Seattle --- On Sun, 10/19/08, Ray Wise <[email protected]> wrote: From: Ray Wise <[email protected]> Subject: [WISE] new member. To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 9:01 AM Hi all, I am researching my family history through the ages and generations of Wises. My roots end up in Surrey but have gone back through London and begin (so far) back in Oxford. My family tree is found here: http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/pt/pedigree.aspx?tid=8169987 and I would like to here from any member researching the name Wise in the Oxford area - particularly the late 1700's. My main target is William Wise (aren't they all called Wm) he was born 1794 aprox, and so it says on one census and on his marriage cert born in Oxford. His occupation was either Coachsmith, Blacksmith or just Smith > I'm hoping someone might have dug up Wise's with the same job in the Oxford area. His marriage was at St Peter in the East Church to Susannah Collis also of the area. Some of their children were batised in St Ebbe church, that was before they moved into London. If anyone can help in any way I would be very appreciative.. I have already been to Oxford research centre on numerous occasions but live in London. ...thanks for your time - Ray Wise. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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