WISE list subscribers: I am forwarding this query to you for Bob. He is not a subscriber yet so please send any responses to Bob's personal address (and preferably a copy to this list). Jim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, I am looking for information on a Melchior WEISS who was born before 1677 in Irken/Lentzburg and died in 1715. Thank You! Bob bkunkel@postoffice.ptd.net http://home.ptd.net/~bkunkel

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Hi, Was hoping you Wise Cousins could help me with the following ancestor: Susanna Wise b/1820 PA d/1898 Winfield Twp, Lake, IN m/24 Dec 1840 in Crawford Co, OH Solomon Deeter b/22 May 1820 PA d/14 Jan 1869 Winfield Twp, Lake, IN Children: Born 1-3 Crawford Co, OH, 4-6 Holly, Oakland Co, MI, 7-10 Lake Co, IN Julia Ann b/07 Sep 1841 m/Xavia Dye Charlotte b/14 Feb 1843 m/Edward Welch Jacob b/02 Feb 1845 Mary Elizabeth b/26 Oct 1848 m/James Robert Quinn Harriet Delia b/05 Dec 1849 m/Jasper D. Burge George Washington Deeter b/10 Jan 1852 m/16 Apr 1876 Emma Jane Wild Eliza Ann b/19 Jun 1854 John Henry b/29 Feb 1856 m/Anna Eliza McCoy Rachel E. b/15 aug 1859 Electy Melviny b/25 apr 1862 Would love to find Susanna's parents and siblings. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Carolyn C. Marvin curlyjo@vcn.com

A few days ago I posted a cemetery listing from Bossier Parish, LA, east of Plain Dealing off state Hwy. 157 to the north, very near the AR state line. [Sec 6, Twp 23N R12W] I listed John I. Wise -- that should be John J. Wise 03 Aug 1814 12 Apr 1875 and his wife Sara D. Lambright Wise 18 Dec 1824 18 Jul 1910 His name was John James Wise, a son of James Wise and Permelia Miller originally of SC and settlers in Claiborne Parish, LA. John James was one of at least 16 children; some researchers say 19! Her middle name is Dorcas. Sorry for the mis-infomation. That's how it was listed in a cemetery book, however; just wanted to correct the info. Ann Harper Bonner---of north Louisiana, descended from the Wise's oldest son Joseph F. Wise m Carolina Lambright. [At least 4 of the children of James and Permelia married into the Lambright family.]

1. Chalybeate Springs Baptist Church, Sec.6, Twp.23N, R12W--In Bossier Parish, off state Hwy. 157 between Plain Dealing in Bossier Parish and Springhill in Webster Parish. There are two roads where signs direct one to the church. The road nearest Plain Dealing seems to be the one where the searcher is told to turn left [north] and go 4 miles. The community where the church is was once known as the Alabama Community. John I. Wise 03 Aug 1814 - 12 Apr 1875 Sara D. Lambright Wise 18 Dec 1824 - 18 Jul 1910 [Note: sender knows that Wise families came from SC through MS where Lambrights were in Copiah Co., then to Claiborne Parish LA.] 2. Oak Hills Cemetery, AKA Wise Cemetery. Go north for on state Hwy. 3 out of Plain Dealing, Bossier Parish for 3 miles from the light at the crossroads of Hwy. 3/Hwy. 2. Turn left [west] on Hwy 537 and go 1 1/2 miles, then turn right on Log Ferry Road. Go 2 miles, then turn right on Wise Road and go 1/2 mile to the cemetery. Arthur B. Wise 1888-1957 Georgia B. Wise 1875-1900 Ivan Wise 15 Sep 1821 - 24 Aug 1900 Jim Jake Wise 22 Feb 1892 - -1 Oct 1948 John D. Wise 17 Jul 1904 - 09 Dec 1973 Junius L. Wise 22 Nov 1884 - 14 Nov 1887 Margaret Wise 17 Mar 1858 - 02 Oct 1937 Ollie Wise 29 Nov 1879 - 12 Oct 1882 Robert B. Wise 03 Jun 1856 - 11 Dec 1923 Sarah Wise 30 Jun 1891 - 09 Mar 1906 Gertrude Wise 25 Sep 1896 - 19 May 1964 Teutsch Ann Harper Bonner--paternal grandmother was a Wise

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At 08:11 AM 3/31/98 -0500, you wrote: >DING DING DING Lisa, Henry is a brother to my William Wise who >married Mary Ann Baker. I have the same dates for Henry that you do >and for Mary Catherine I have 1805-1863. Mary Louise > > >Dear Mary Louise, Great news, a new relative. Do you have any more info on Henry/William parents? I have zip! Henry's daughter Sarah Frances married William Barr and they moved to Ft. Worth Texas. William Barr served with Stonewall Jackson. He and Sarah are my great great grandparents on my father's side. Sarah was born February 18, 1849 in Hardy Co., VA, died June 9, 1933 in Ft. Worth Tx. Lisa

DING DING DING Lisa, Henry is a brother to my William Wise who married Mary Ann Baker. I have the same dates for Henry that you do and for Mary Catherine I have 1805-1863. Mary Louise

Just joined the Wise connection. I'm looking for connections to Henry Wise of Hardy Co, VA which became West Virginia. Lived ~1804 to 1871. Wife: Mary C. Swisher. Ring any bells? Thanks Lisa Jenkins

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In a message dated 3/22/98 6:56:02 PM CST, WISE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > family of Robert Esson WISE (b. 1860, s/o John Quincy WISE) and > Helen Virginia McGEHEE of Coffee Co., AL. I wonder if the John Quincy Wise above was the following Wise from the SE ALA area. I interpreted the D as a Q when I read the census years ago. I still don't feel right with the father of Herron being listed as Daniel Wise. Jeanette Descendants of John D. Wise Generation No. 1 1. John D.3 Wise (Herren2, Daniel1) was born 1838. He married Ruth C. Thomas. Children of John Wise and Ruth Thomas are: 2 i. Arrinca J.4 Wise, born 1853. 3 ii. John C. Wise, born 1856 in AL (Parents b. GA). 4 iii. Jonathan E. Wise, born 1857. 5 iv. Robbert Wise, born 1859. He married Virginia N.. 6 v. Gerry F. Wise, born 1860. He married Laura. 7 vi. Ida L. Wise, born 1865. 8 vii. Billy C. Wise, born 1867. 9 viii. Monroe Wise, born 1869.

HI COUSIN!!! you and i have a "HIT"., But dont get too excited. I am a descendant of George EVILSIZER and Susanna Wise. I am still searching for this Wise family, so this is the only info i have and that was from a will. However, mayber we can work together in the future and share the info we both find. Sandi Descendants of John Wise, Sr. 1 Wise, John, Sr. d: 05/1808 in Rockingham Co.,VA .. +Catherine ... 2 Wise, David ....... +Lamb, Apeloma m: Aft. 1800 in Rockingham Co.,VA ... 2 Wise, Elizabeth (Betsy) ....... +Scroyer, John m: 04/09/1798 in Rockingham Co.,VA ... 2 Wise, Susanna ....... +Lamb, Jacob m: 04/01/1806 in Rockingham Co.,VA ... 2 Wise, Eve b: Bef. 1790 in VA d: Bef. 1823 in Harrison Co,IN ....... +Evilsizer, George b: 08/1784 in VA m: 04/11/1811 in Rockingham Co.,VA d: 08/31/1864 in Floyd Co,IN ........ 3 Evilsizer, William b: 1812 in Ind ............ +Johnston, Rachel b: 1812 in NC m: 08/25/1831 in Harrison Co,IN ............. 4 Evilsizer, Elizabeth J b: 1834 in In ................. +Booth, John b: Abt. 1833 in Il m: 02/21/1856 in Harrison Co,IN Fact 1: 1860 McDonough Co ILL Census ............. 4 Evilsizer, Geroge F b: Abt. 1835 in In ............. 4 Evilsizer, Louis b: Abt. 1837 in In ............. 4 Evilsizer, John H b: Abt. 1839 in Ind ............. 4 Evilsizer, David b: Abt. 1842 in In ........ 3 Evilsizer, Abigail b: Abt. 1814 in IN ............ +Avery, Thomas, Jr b: 10/16/1811 in NC m: 03/17/1837 in Harrison Co, IN d: 03/26/1900 in Floyd Co,IN ............. 4 Avery, Emily b: 1838 in Ind ............. 4 Avery, America b: 1841 in Ind ............. 4 Avery, George M b: 1849 in Ind ............. 4 Avery, Harriett ........ 3 Evilsizer, Delilah b: 07/15/1815 in Floyd Co.,IND d: 02/14/1863 in Floyd Co.,IND ............ +Reep, Phillip b: 1814 in NC m: 01/05/1836 in Harrison Co,IN ............. 4 Reep, Mary b: 1836 in IN ............. 4 Reep, Eli b: 1844 in In ............. 4 Reep, Martha b: 03/07/1845 in Floyd Co.,IND d: 04/1867 in Floyd Co.,IND ................. +Simms, John ........ 3 Evilsizer, Matilda b: Abt. 1816 in Ind ............ +Bringle, Absalom b: Abt. 1812 in NC m: 07/18/1838 in Harrison Co, IN ............. 4 Bringle, George M b: 1840 in Ind ............. 4 Bringle, James O b: 1849 in Ind ........ 3 Evilsizer, Rebecca b: 1820 in Harrison Co,IN ............ +Hubbard, Farmer Manning b: 05/01/1818 in Harrison Co,IN m: 03/09/1843 in Harrison Co, IN Fact 1: 1860 Washington CO IND Census ............. 4 Hubbard, Harriett b: 1846 in IND Fact 1: 1860 Census- Washington Co IND ............. 4 Hubbard, John b: 1852 in Ind Fact 1: 1860 Washington Co, Ind Census ............. 4 Hubbard, Sarah b: 1853 in Ind Fact 1: 1860 Washington Co, Ind Census ............. 4 Hubbard, Benjamin b: 1855 in Ind Fact 1: 1860 Washington Co, Ind Census ........ 3 Evilsizer, Sarah b: 08/11/1824 in Floyd Co.,IND d: 10/17/1867 in Floyd Co.,IND ............ +Hurbaugh, John b: 07/17/1821 in VA m: 10/29/1846 in Harrison Co,IN d: 03/08/1895 in Floyd Co.,IND ............. 4 Hurbaugh, David b: 1848 in Floyd Co.,IND ............. 4 Hurbaugh, Leonard b: 01/1850 in Floyd Co.,IND ............. 4 Hurbaugh, John b: Aft. 1850 ................. +//, C m: Bef. 1872 .................. 5 Hurbaugh, Mary b: 08/17/1872 in Floyd Co.,IND d: 08/17/1872 in Floyd Co.,IND ........ 3 Evilsizer, George Washington b: 12/21/1827 d: 12/13/1872 in Harrison Co, IN ............ +Swank, America m: 08/14/1840 in Harrison Co,IN ........ 3 Evilsizer, Rachel Jane b: 1831 in In ............ +Fite, John S b: 1830 in In m: 02/09/1852 in Harrison Co,IN ............. 4 Fite, Madora b: 1856 in In ............. 4 Fite ........ 3 Evilsizer, David b: 1834 in In ............ +Cullins, Mary F b: Abt. 1841 in In m: 10/12/1858 in Harrison Co,IN ............. 4 Evilsizer, Murphy E b: 1859 in IN ... 2 Wise, Michael b: Abt. 1797 ....... +Radar, Ann m: 04/14/1817 ... 2 Wise, Abraham b: Abt. 1798 ... 2 Wise, John, Jr b: Bef. 1799 d: 08/1816 in Rockingham Co.,VA ....... +Lamb, Virginia ( Polly) b: Abt. 1781 m: Aft. 1800 in Rockingham Co.,VA ........ 3 Wise, Anne ........ 3 Wise, Betsy ........ 3 Wise, Catherine (Cate) ........ 3 Wise, John III ........ 3 Wise, Peggy (Margaret) ........ 3 Wise, Polly ........ 3 Wise, Sally ........ 3 Wise, William ........ 3 Wise, Sarah or Barbara b: Aft. 1800 ............ +Kiser, Michael m: 01/20/1826 in Rockingham Co.,VA

Hi, Ron: Sorry, I don't have any info on the Dora Belle or her relatives. I'll keep your message on file, though, in case I run across something in my research. Good luck with your search. Janice * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * At 10:41 PM 3/22/98 -0800, you wrote: >Dora Belle WISE b/7/jun/1889 >d/aug/1988 born in Alabama >Married John Wesley SCOGGINS. >They had a daughter Anita born in Elba, >Ala.Later moved to Montgomery, Ala. >Dora had 2 brothers that was in the automobile business in Montgomery, >in the 1940's Would you have any info on these people. Thanks Ron >WISE > > > J.C.

Dora Belle WISE b/7/jun/1889 d/aug/1988 born in Alabama Married John Wesley SCOGGINS. They had a daughter Anita born in Elba, Ala.Later moved to Montgomery, Ala. Dora had 2 brothers that was in the automobile business in Montgomery, in the 1940's Would you have any info on these people. Thanks Ron WISE J.C.

Greetings, I am new to the list and am hoping for some help from my fellow Wise researcher's. I am seeking info. on 2 Wise families in Rockingham co. VA. Although I don't know if they were related, I suspect they were. We'll start with Joseph F Huffman and his wife Susan Jane Lite. Joseph F.Huffman was born Dec.25, 1834 in Bridgewater, VA the son of Joseph & Mary D. (Wise) Huffman. Mary Wise was the daughter of John & Elizabeth (Orebaugh) Wise. Now to Joseph F Huffman's wife Susan Jane Lite. Susan Jane Lite was born in Mt.Crawford, VA Mar.13, 1839. Her parents were Harvey & Abigail Ann (Wise) Lite. Abigail Ann Wise was the daughter of David & Apeloma (Lamb) Wise. Can anybody help me with this mess? I'll take any and all info. Thank you. Chuck.

Hi, Ann: Thanks for your response. I apologize for my delay in responding. It's been a wild week, and I just today had a chance to compare what was in your message against info that I have in my files. It's interesting that you mentioned Coryell Co. since I live in Temple (Bell Co.) just a few miles from the Coryell Co. line. Other nearby counties are Milam, McLennan, Williamson, Falls,McLampasas, and Burnet. I checked the 1880 Census Index for WISE in Coryell Co. and found the following names, some of which have ages and state of birth given in the Soundex: Lemuel, Levi, Reuben H. (26 LA), and William E (24 LA). The index lists the following WISE names for Bell Co.: Francis M. (50 MS), Mary Jane, and Nary or Mary (1858 LA). Do any of these sound familiar? There was another WISE family in Milam Co. in the early days, reportedly coming from the area of Elba, AL via other areas in TX. It was the family of Robert Esson Wise (b. 1860, s/o John Quincy Wise) and Helen Virginia McGehee of Coffee Co., AL. Their children were John A. (b. 1886), Jesse P. (b. 1891), Luther Q. (b. 1894), and Collas L (b. 1896). Most or all of this family eventually left this area. I have been unable to determine whether or not they are related to my WISE line. I wish I knew more about "my" Nathan WISE. I haven't even been able to verify that the Nathan WISE who is reported to be my ancestor is actually the father of my g-g-g-grandfather, Richard WISE, who moved from SC to Pike (Crenshaw) Co., AL. His son, Samuel James WISE, died in Crenshaw Co., after which his daughter-in-law, Caroline (Brunson) Wise, several children moved to Milam Co., TX where many of the WISE descendants still reside. If you'll send me a little more detailed info on your WISE family, I'll see what I can find for you in this area. Until next time, HAPPY HUNTING! Janice * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * At 04:48 PM 3/20/98 -0800, you wrote: >Hello Janice Williams--read your posting of WISE/BULLOCK. > >Observed with interest your Nathaniel "Nathan" Wise b before 1744 in SC. Our earliest known Wise is James Wise b. 1783 possibly VA, possibly Marion Co. SC area. He married Permelia Miller in SC. The name of one of his brothers was Jesse Wise. Possibly their father was Ambrose Wise in SC. > >The Wises travled westward of course, but I do not know whether they ever lived in AL...they DID live in Copiah Co. MS [southern part] for a while, then migrated to Claiborne Parish, LA [northern part]. Some moved on to Texas...Coryell Co. comes to mind. > >One of James' and Permelia's sons was the Rev. David Nathan Wise. There were about 17 other children!! My ancestor was the son Joseph F. Wise. > >Could you give some counties in TX? > >Ann Harper Bonner paternal grandmother was a Wise > >

Hi, Trudy! Thank you for your response. I apologize for my delay in responding, but it has been wild around here this week; and I'm just now getting around to checking on my WISE info for you. In the early days, there was another WISE family in Milam Co. which came from Coffee Co., AL via some other areas in TX. I have been unable to find out if they are related to me, but I wonder if you're related to them. It was the family of Robert Esson WISE (b. 1860, s/o John Quincy WISE) and Helen Virginia McGEHEE of Coffee Co., AL. Their children were John A. (b. 1886), Jesse P. (b. 1891), Luther Q. (b. 1894), and Collas L (b. 1896). Most or all of this family eventually left this area. I have been unable to determine whether or not they are related to my WISE line. There was a nice article about this family in the book, "Matchless Milam: History of Milam County, Texas". I keep hoping that something will surface during my research to indicate whether or not they're related to me. I'll let you know if I learn more about this family. If you know anything about them, I'd appreciate your sharing the info with me. Until next time, HAPPY HUNTING! Janice Williams * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * At 08:08 PM 3/21/98 -0600, you wrote: >Hi, >Yes indeed there were WISE's in AL, the ones I'm researching are mostly in >Coffee/Dale Co.the Herren WISE which was my husband's ancestor first showed up in Dale Co in the 1830 Census, he was in Wilkinson Co. GA in 1820. I have not run accross a David Nathan though. Herren's father may have been Joseph WISE this particular Joseph died after 1830 in Coffee Co AL, whether there is a connection to James and Rebecca Massey WISE has not been proven or disproven yet. There seem to have been two Joseph's in GA one in Oglethorpe Co and the other in Wilkinson in 1820. Any information which may clear up this mystery will be greatly appreciated. >Trudy >

Hi, Yes indeed there were WISE's in AL, the ones I'm researching are mostly in Coffee/Dale Co.the Herren WISE which was my husband's ancestor first showed up in Dale Co in the 1830 Census, he was in Wilkinson Co. GA in 1820. I have not run accross a David Nathan though. Herren's father may have been Joseph WISE this particular Joseph died after 1830 in Coffee Co AL, whether there is a connection to James and Rebecca Massey WISE has not been proven or disproven yet. There seem to have been two Joseph's in GA one in Oglethorpe Co and the other in Wilkinson in 1820. Any information which may clear up this mystery will be greatly appreciated. Trudy gbonner wrote: > Hello Janice Williams--read your posting of WISE/BULLOCK. > > Observed with interest your Nathaniel "Nathan" Wise b before 1744 in SC. > Our earliest known Wise is James Wise b. 1783 possibly VA, possibly Marion > Co. SC area. He married Permelia Miller in SC. The name of one of his > brothers was Jesse Wise. Possibly their father was Ambrose Wise in SC. > > The Wises travled westward of course, but I do not know whether they > ever lived in AL...they DID live in Copiah Co. MS [southern part] for a > while, then migrated to Claiborne Parish, LA [northern part]. Some moved > on to Texas...Coryell Co. comes to mind. > > One of James' and Permelia's sons was the Rev. David Nathan Wise. There > were about 17 other children!! My ancestor was the son Joseph F. Wise. > > Could you give some counties in TX? > > Ann Harper Bonner paternal grandmother was a Wise

I am new to your list and the first posting was very interesting. Jacob Wise brn 1741 Switzerland(not confirmed)married Elizabeth Leatherman brn 1749 (Netherlands not confirmed) in Philadelphia, Pa. children are Daniel --Joseph--John--Fredrick--Mary--Isabella--Rebecca--Nancy--Eliza--Katherine--Ma rgaret--Elizabeth Elizabeth married (1)Jacob C. BULLOCK 13 Oct 1811 in Nelson County, Kentucky (2) Married William Barlow Crowder 15 Aug 1815 Nelson County, Kentucky Jacob married at least once more to Ann RICE 7 Sept 1790 in Nelson County, Kentucky. Lived in Madison County, Illinois as well I have more info on other marriages for the other children as well if any one interested. Please let me know. Thanks Anna

Hello Janice Williams--read your posting of WISE/BULLOCK. Observed with interest your Nathaniel "Nathan" Wise b before 1744 in SC. Our earliest known Wise is James Wise b. 1783 possibly VA, possibly Marion Co. SC area. He married Permelia Miller in SC. The name of one of his brothers was Jesse Wise. Possibly their father was Ambrose Wise in SC. The Wises travled westward of course, but I do not know whether they ever lived in AL...they DID live in Copiah Co. MS [southern part] for a while, then migrated to Claiborne Parish, LA [northern part]. Some moved on to Texas...Coryell Co. comes to mind. One of James' and Permelia's sons was the Rev. David Nathan Wise. There were about 17 other children!! My ancestor was the son Joseph F. Wise. Could you give some counties in TX? Ann Harper Bonner paternal grandmother was a Wise