I am searching for more information on David Wise's father and further back. Reverend David Wise (Christian or Baptist) died in Estill Co., KY and first married Rachel Cooper, and after she died, he married Mary Spry (my 3g grandmother). I have the following dates: David Wise: b. 5 Nov 1834, d. 3 Sep 1895, and married Mary Spry on 22 Jun 1858 -he is the son of John Wise and Gouldman; Gouldman died on Nov 1834 in Estill Co, KY (believed to have died around David's birth) Mary Spry: b. 4 Apr 1833 in Estill Co., KY; d. 1 Feb 1899 -she is the daughter of John Spry and Elvina Kimball Any information would be appreciated! Thanks, Erik Osterrieder

Seeking info on Joseph WISE b probably Lebanon, CT, d Apr 21, 1815. Daughter Martha (my ancestor) m Jehiel JONES. Martha d Sept. 1849 in Deerfield, MA. Other children Hannah m John ROBBINS; Huldah m Nathan ROBBINS; Levina m Benj. RICE; Daniel; Zeriah m Daniel CORNWALL; Lucy m Jessie TRASH. Thanks for help. Elsie crwilkin@bellsouth.net

I am looking for anyone that may have apossible Charles Avery Wise. The only thing I know for sure is he married Virginia Maude Mines and had a son named Lester William Wise b 1902 Cabell Co W.V.

Hello Ken, I had a gg-grandfather named Uriah Wise. He and his wife had 7 children, and I thought it interesting what you said about the eldest child. Their first was names John also and he lived in Kansas. My Wise branch has always been a stickler. Sincerely, Garth E. Brackbill

Hi I'm have Wise's also, the first one I know of for sure is Herren Wise b in NC abt 1795 m. Nancy d. 13 Feb. 1862 Coffee Co. AL. Does anyone recognize him Betsylu wrote: > Is anyone researching the following: > > John Wise, born 1785, died 1816, Rockingham Co., VA, married Mary (Polly) Lamb > and had the following children: > > Sarah (Sally) > William > John > Elizabeth (Betsy) > Mary (Polly) > Catherine (Cate) > Margaret (Peggy) my line > Ann (Anna) > > Thank you > K Ellis > Betsylu@aol.com

Ken, I'm jumping in on your reply to K. Ellis. Hope you don't mind. My 4th gr grandfather was Christian Wise who left an 1816 will in Hardy Co., Va (now WVA). Although there were 10 people in his household in the 1782/4 state census, I have only been able to come up with four of his children and nothing on a wife. The four known children are Frederick who m Elizabeth Ketner (my line); Lydia who m George Wilkins; Barbara who m Thomas Stone; John. The only one whose date of birth I have is Barbara who was born 1769. Your John's date of birth would certainly put him in the right time frame to fit in as a child of Christian Wise. Mary Louise

Mary Louise, I appreciate your E-mail. Any hope of solving this mystery is welcomed. However, I wonder if any of Christian's children were in or lived in Rockingham County. John certainly died there for I have seen his tombstone along with Hannah's (his wife) and some of his children and in-laws graves. In those days apparently, every eldest son was named John in the WISE family and I have a feeling that his father also was named John. You're right, the time frame is right on. Maybe we have something here. We'll keep plugging away. Regards, Ken

Dear K.Ellis- I hope you don't mind the name I am addressing this message to, but I don't know another to which to send it. Anyway my name is Ken WISE and I am descended from John Wise who is buried on a piece of land called Wiseland near a town called Keezletown which is itself near Harrisonburg, Va. This John Wise as near as I have been able to find out died in Rockingham County and was born circa 1760-67. He is my 5th Ggrandfather and I have his descendants from his death on to the present. I have not, however, been able to determine either his parents names and origins or his wife's maiden name and her parents and origins. I would like to find all this out if possible. Your John WISE apparently came along later. My John's wife's first name was Hannah and she is buried alongside her husband. I have visited their graves.

Betsylu wrote: > Is anyone researching the following: > > John Wise, born 1785, died 1816, Rockingham Co., VA, married Mary (Polly) Lamb > and had the following children: > > Sarah (Sally) > William > John > Elizabeth (Betsy) > Mary (Polly) > Catherine (Cate) > Margaret (Peggy) my line > Ann (Anna) > > Thank you > K Ellis > Betsylu@aol.com I have a Sarah Wise B:9-24-1810 Rockingham Co VA M: 2-10-1834 George Frederick Sherman in Rockingham Co VA. I have no parents for her yet. Do you think she could be your Sarah? Vickie Miller

Is anyone researching the following: John Wise, born 1785, died 1816, Rockingham Co., VA, married Mary (Polly) Lamb and had the following children: Sarah (Sally) William John Elizabeth (Betsy) Mary (Polly) Catherine (Cate) Margaret (Peggy) my line Ann (Anna) Thank you K Ellis Betsylu@aol.com

Hi Everyone, I'm posting this query for Billy Moore, who is also researching the WISE line. He is specifically looking for Simon WISE born abt. 1823 in SC m abt 1863 to Rhoda Catherine(Caroline) McDONELL b abt 1836 in GA. Simon and Rhoda's children are James W b 18 April 1864 in AL, m Belle T WOODEN around 1886, d 13 Dec 1944 in AR; Wilson B abt 1870 in AL; William Preston b Apr 1872 in AL, m Mary ??? abt 1895 in AR, d 1933 AR, buried in the Oakland Cemetery, Clarksville, Johnson AR ; Randall Mack b Dec 1876 in AL, m Isabelle ??? around 1899 in AR; Columbus b Jul 1879 in AR. Simon was in the 1870 Census of Dale AL (age 45) and in the 1880 of Johnson AR (age 57). According to his last two children births it looks as if he moved to AR sometime around 1877. Can anyone help Billy find out more about Simon , his parents, where born, etc. Billy can be reaced directly at mooreb@gateway.net

My home page is finally up and running with all the links working. Feel free to visit at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4397 and check out my maternal grandfathers' Wise family links. Mathias Wise was born about 1832 in Baden, Bavaria. He arrived in America sometime between 1850 and 1860 and settled in York Co. Pennsylvania. His first wife was Josephine Peter, who was born in Hesse Cassel sometime around 1836. Their children include: John (b1855) m. Agnes (b1855) Adam (b1858) Conrad (b1860) Elizabeth (b1864) married name may have been Rolland William Aloyious (b1866) m. Elizabeth Clara May Boose (1862-1950) George Francis (b1869) Valentine (b1871) Mathias then married Eva Catherine Null (b1844). They had one child, Mary M. (b1880). Shawn O'Malley shawn69@mail.idt.net http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4397

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Looking for Charles A Wise b Ohio. He had a son named Lester b 1902 Cabell Co W.V.

Am looking for parents of John Weiss and wife Christina Herzog. They came to US around 1854 and settled in NewOrleans,La., with children: JohnJr, Gothlieb, Christina and Alois. One other son, Gasper, staid in Germany and believed to have joined English Navy. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I recently found information about a Thomas WISE family in Crawford Co., PA. This information came from the 1860 & 1870 censuses, West Shenango Twp. 1 Thomas WISE b. abt 1824 in PA +(1)Prudence(?) b. abt 1830 in PA 2 Mary E. b. abt 1849 in PA 2 Amelia b. abt 1850 in PA 2 William b. abt 1854 in PA 2 Charles b. abt 1858 in OH +(2)Sarah b. abt 1833 in OH 2 Frank E. b. abt 1868 in PA 2 Thomas b. abt Feb 1870 in PA The second wife Sarah may have been previously married to a DAVIS since there was also an Ellie DAVIS, age 11, living in the household in the 1870 census. The son, Charles, may be my great-grandfather but I need more to go on. Any further information on this family would be greatly appreciated. Jim Wise mailto:jimwise@emwv.com Armstrong Co., Pennsylvania: BOWSER LYNCH BEYER WILES STOOPS HAMILTON HEPLER BARNHART CAMPBELL EDWARDS GIBSON ANDERS KING REGIS Mercer Co., Pennsylvania: GREGGS WIGTON CAMPBELL CHISHOLM CULBERTSON MCCORMACK CORNELIUS CURRY COVERT WISE MILLER MOON

Does anyone recognize the name ALETHA ADELINE WISE? She was born in Illinois in 1852. She married James Hanna in Jackson Co., IL. Her parents were also born in IL. Please, does anyone researching the WISE line in Illinois show her as a child? Thanks.

Does anyone have any info about David Wise b 1758 Lincoln Co. m Mary (?) 1788 Lincoln Co.Had d Mary Elizabeth Wise b 1798. Appreciate any info. Thanks. Cleona

I am looking for information on Johann Weiss. He was the son of Conrad Weiss and Katherine Fredrich. He married Margaret Mittman. Johann was born in 1844. I do not know the exact area that he came from. All I know is that it was part of White Russia. This was a border zone of Russia, Germany, and Poland. Eventually it became Russia during WW II. Different sons of his listed their birth places in each of the above places. According to my great Aunt it could have been all three, depending on the time frame. Johann's wife died before he immigrated. He brought over his daughters and settled in Eureka, WI (Winnebago Co.) His sons joined him several years later. His children were as follows 1. Ida 1876-1967 married William Block 2. Daniel 1878-1960 married Minnie Roggow 3. William 1885-1986 married Amanda Hubrig 4. Olga 1887 - 1984 married William Roggow 5. Emelia ? married Gottlieb Block 6. Emma ? married Arthur Stienke 7. John b.? - 1938 in Kenosha, WI married Julie Reiter daughter of William Reiter and Amelia Stach (k) 8. Matilda ? married Albert Wirch 9. Nathalie ? married August Reiter If anybody had any info on any of these I would love to hear from you Thanx Sue

Hello group. I understand WEISS to be a variant of Wise, so I will post a quick message in hopes it looks familiar to someone. I'm looking for any links to the following ancestors: Christian Frederick WEISS came to the US from Chemnitz, Saxony, DEU around 1873, with a wife, Martha (VOGEL) Weiss, and at least one son, Carl Albin, age two. Based on old Lutheran church records from IL (specifically Roselle, Schaumburg, and Evanston) I can deduce that many relatives of Christian and Martha came to the US with them, or around the same time, namely WEISS and VOGEL. Carl married Amanda MEYER in IL, became a Lutheran minister, and had six kids: Clara, spinster; Frieda, spinster; Paul (whereabouts unkown, though probably in the Chicago area); Alvin (whereabouts unknown, though probably in the Chicago area), Rev. Theodore; and my grandpa, Rev. Oswald WEISS. These kids were born between 1896 and 1916, all are deceased. If any of these names look familiar to anyone, please let me know. I'm stuck at the moment, and could use a good lead. Heather