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    1. Re: Frank Wise
    2. Joe Rogers
    3. Your's is an interesting question. I have been researching Wise family because my of Grandfather Joseph Albert Wise. The branch I have been researching First came to the North America to Philidelpha in 1733, settled in LeHigh County PA, (the name at this time was Wiess), moved to Trumbull Co. Ohio about 1800, (Near Youngstown), later moved to Hancock Co, Ohio (Findlay, OH). With the move the name changed from Wiess to Wise. My Great Grandfather Daniel Wise joined the Ohio Volunteer Infantry in the Civil War, met his wife in KY, Lived in KY, Owosso MI, and finally back in Hancock Co, Ohio. He had brothers which I have nothing on. They may have moved on to other states west or northwest. Your Wise would be of no close relation to me as Daniel had three sons with two having children and only female descendants having children. The Wise name is a common surname in the states of Pa, Ohio, Ind, MI etc. >From my research there appears to be a german branch that came to Pa, another branch that came into VA and NC and went west into KY, or southwest in to Ark. These are just some observations that may help you to trace further back. I would gather that the Wise that died in WWII would have been your father. I see that you are retire Army, well I am retired Navy. -----Original Message----- From: Gary M. Wise <garyshamus@itol.com> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 9:42 AM Subject: Frank Wise >Looking for information on Frank Wise, DOB: 9 Nov 1891, died Dec 71 in >Munising, MI. SSAN: 379-09-7471. His wife was suppose to be Edith who >preceded him in death but can't find any info from SSDI. > >Frank's son, William Morris Wise, was killed in WWII in the Navy. No >other children. > >This is my grandfather. >-- >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >Gary M. Wise, PI,SSG,USA (Ret), Badger State Detective Agency, N2709 Cty >Trk B, Kewaunee, WI 54216, 920-388-4135 >WI Lic: 6665 (Since 1985) >Member: Professional Association of Wisconsin Licensed Investigators >(PAWLI) > National Association of Investigative Specialist (NAIS) > United States Process Servers Association >Website: <http://members.tripod.com/~gwise/shamusindex.html> > >(LOCATE 25 MILES EAST OF GREEN BAY, 30 MILES NORTH OF MANITOWOC >AND 35 MILES SOUTH OF STURGEON BAY, WI >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >When business accepts help from government, it can be like going to bed >with a hippo! It's warm and nice for a moment, >but then your bedmate rolls over and crushes you! Donald Runsfeld. > >

    06/25/1998 12:14:09
    1. Re: Frank Wise (or Lydia Wise)
    2. Would you have any information on Lydia Wise who married Nathaniel Spears in Marlboro Co., SC in 1753? Linda

    06/25/1998 11:46:30
    1. Re: Mississippi Wise family
    2. Jan Eiskina
    3. fdangerfield wrote: > > I am researching the SC wise family. What can we help each other > with. > David > Dangerfield > > fdangerfield@infoave.net > > S. C. Wise's are my roots, also. Enoch Wise b. 1798 SC moved to Tennessee and then Illinois, died in Arkansas or Missouri before 1860. I am at a standstill. Help. Janet Wise-Eiskina

    06/24/1998 11:54:49
    1. Frank Wise
    2. Gary M. Wise
    3. Looking for information on Frank Wise, DOB: 9 Nov 1891, died Dec 71 in Munising, MI. SSAN: 379-09-7471. His wife was suppose to be Edith who preceded him in death but can't find any info from SSDI. Frank's son, William Morris Wise, was killed in WWII in the Navy. No other children. This is my grandfather. -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Gary M. Wise, PI,SSG,USA (Ret), Badger State Detective Agency, N2709 Cty Trk B, Kewaunee, WI 54216, 920-388-4135 WI Lic: 6665 (Since 1985) Member: Professional Association of Wisconsin Licensed Investigators (PAWLI) National Association of Investigative Specialist (NAIS) United States Process Servers Association Website: <http://members.tripod.com/~gwise/shamusindex.html> (LOCATE 25 MILES EAST OF GREEN BAY, 30 MILES NORTH OF MANITOWOC AND 35 MILES SOUTH OF STURGEON BAY, WI %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% When business accepts help from government, it can be like going to bed with a hippo! It's warm and nice for a moment, but then your bedmate rolls over and crushes you! Donald Runsfeld.

    06/24/1998 09:22:30
    1. Lydia Wise
    2. gbonner
    3. I'm sorry, but Lydia is not a name I have in my Wise database. [I posted the James Wise m Permelia Miller in SC material earlier in response to a posted query, but erroneously posted only to the entire list and did not CC the original sender.] Ann Harper Bonner in north Louisiana

    06/23/1998 04:07:27
    1. Re: Mississippi Wise family
    2. gbonner
    3. Hello, David-- My SC Wise family apparently is from Marion Co. James Wise [1781 SC-1858 LA] is the farthest back we know. It could be his dad was named Ambrose Wise. [One of James' sons was as well.] James Wise m Permelia Miller who was b 1780 SC and d 1845 LA. Permelia Miller Wise had a brother named John Walter Miller. He was b Oct 1807 in SC [what co. I don't know] and d Jan 1878 Wayne Co. MS. He married Samantha Anne Payne ca 1824 SC [no co. known]. Their desc. were in LA, AR, and TX as well. The Wises went to Copiah Co. MS then to Claiborne Parish LA. There were many marraiges with the LAMBRIGHT family with roots in SC and George Lambright m Dorcas Shuler possibly of Orangeburgh. [Haven't found her name in the Orangeburgh site listings yet, however.] Are any of these names in your databases? Thanks...Ann Harper Bonner in Springhill, LA [my paternal gm was a Wise]

    06/23/1998 10:34:50
    1. Re: Mississippi Wise family
    2. I have a Lydia Wise married to Nathaniel Spears in Marlboro, SC in 1753. Do you know if she is in this line of Wise that you speak of?

    06/23/1998 09:43:39
    1. Re: Mississippi Wise family
    2. fdangerfield
    3. Sorry, I dont have much of a line yet. I will have to do more research. David

    06/23/1998 09:11:54
    1. Re: Mississippi Wise family
    2. fdangerfield
    3. Sorry, I dont have much of a line yet. I will have to do more research. David

    06/23/1998 09:11:54
    1. Re: John Wise - Virginia
    2. I am also researching this line. I am a descendant of George Evilsizer and Eva Wise, daughter of John Sr. The following is ALL i have on this line. Would love to exchange info. Sandi Descendants of John Wise, Sr. 1 Wise, John, Sr. d: 05/1808 in Rockingham Co.,VA .. +Catherine ... 2 Wise, David ....... +Lamb, Apeloma m: Aft. 1800 in Rockingham Co.,VA ........ 3 Wise, Abigail Ann b: 02/14/1817 in Rockingham Co.,VA d: 11/1897 in Mt Crawford, VA ............ +Lite, Harvey ............. 4 Lite, Susan Jane b: 03/13/1839 in Mt Crawford, VA ................. +Huffman, Joseph F b: 12/25/1834 in Bridgewater, Va Fact 1: 1850 Census -living w/ John & Mary ... 2 Wise, Elizabeth (Betsy) ....... +Scroyer, John m: 04/09/1798 in Rockingham Co.,VA ... 2 Wise, Susanna ....... +Lamb, Jacob m: 04/01/1806 in Rockingham Co.,VA ... 2 Wise, Eve b: Bef. 1790 in VA d: Bef. 1823 in Harrison Co,IN ....... +Evilsizer, George b: 08/1784 in VA m: 04/11/1811 in Rockingham Co.,VA d: 08/31/1864 in Floyd Co,IN Fact 1: 1812 Harrison Co, Ind Tax List ........ 3 Evilsizer, William b: 1812 in Ind ............ +Johnston, Rachel b: 1812 in NC m: 08/25/1831 in Harrison Co,IN ............. 4 Evilsizer, Elizabeth J b: 1834 in In ................. +Booth, John b: Abt. 1833 in Il m: 02/21/1856 in Harrison Co,IN Fact 1: 1860 McDonough Co ILL Census ............. 4 Evilsizer, Geroge F b: Abt. 1835 in In ............. 4 Evilsizer, Louis b: Abt. 1837 in In ............. 4 Evilsizer, John H b: Abt. 1839 in Ind ............. 4 Evilsizer, David b: Abt. 1842 in In ........ 3 Evilsizer, Abigail b: Abt. 1814 in IN ............ +Avery, Thomas, Jr b: 10/16/1811 in NC m: 03/17/1837 in Harrison Co, IN d: 03/26/1900 in Floyd Co,IN ............. 4 Avery, Emily b: 1838 in Ind ............. 4 Avery, America b: 1841 in Ind ............. 4 Avery, George M b: 08/1849 in Ind d: 05/17/1904 in Floyd Co.IN ................. +Engleman, Lavina E b: 1852 in Floyd Co.IN m: 02/04/1874 in Floyd Co.IN d: 07/21/1881 in Floyd Co.IN .................. 5 Avery, Arthur D b: 06/1875 in Floyd Co.IN d: 1954 in Floyd Co.IN .................. 5 Avery, Clarence A b: 1879 in Floyd Co.IN d: 04/23/1879 in Floyd Co.IN .................. 5 Avery, Female b: Abt. 1880 ............. 4 Avery, Harriett ........ 3 Evilsizer, Delilah b: 07/15/1815 in Floyd Co.,IND d: 02/14/1863 in Floyd Co.,IND ............ +Reep, Phillip b: 1814 in NC m: 01/05/1836 in Harrison Co,IN ............. 4 Reep, Mary b: 1836 in IN ............. 4 Reep, Eli b: 1844 in In ............. 4 Reep, Martha b: 03/07/1845 in Floyd Co.,IND d: 04/1867 in Floyd Co.,IND ................. +Simms, John ........ 3 Evilsizer, Matilda b: Abt. 1816 in Ind ............ +Bringle, Absalom b: Abt. 1812 in NC m: 07/18/1838 in Harrison Co, IN ............. 4 Bringle, George M b: 1840 in Ind ............. 4 Bringle, James O b: 1849 in Ind ........ 3 Evilsizer, Rebecca b: 1820 in Harrison Co,IN ............ +Hubbard, Farmer Manning b: 05/01/1818 in Harrison Co,IN m: 03/09/1843 in Harrison Co, IN Fact 1: 1860 Washington CO IND Census ............. 4 Hubbard, Harriett b: 1846 in IND Fact 1: 1860 Census- Washington Co IND ............. 4 Hubbard, John L b: 01/16/1852 in Ind Fact 1: 1860 Washington Co, Ind Census ................. +Sirey, Ida May m: 01/27/1916 in Harrison Co,IN ............. 4 Hubbard, Sarah b: 1853 in Ind Fact 1: 1860 Washington Co, Ind Census ............. 4 Hubbard, Benjamin b: 04/25/1856 in IN Fact 1: 1860 Washington Co, Ind Census ................. +Mizey, Emily Jane m: 02/08/1876 ............. 4 Hubbard, Ballard ............. 4 Hubbard, Monroe ............. 4 Hubbard, Mary May ............. 4 Hubbard, Earnest ............. 4 Hubbard, Daisy ............. 4 Hubbard, Julia ............. 4 Hubbard, Emma ............. 4 Hubbard, Florida d: 02/1969 ............. 4 Hubbard, Earl ............. 4 Hubbard, Cynthia Ann ........ 3 Evilsizer, Sarah b: 08/11/1824 in Floyd Co.,IND d: 10/17/1867 in Floyd Co.,IND ............ +Hurbaugh, John b: 07/17/1821 in VA m: 10/29/1846 in Harrison Co,IN d: 03/08/1895 in Floyd Co.,IND ............. 4 Hurbaugh, David b: 1848 in Floyd Co.,IND ............. 4 Hurbaugh, Leonard b: 01/1850 in Floyd Co.,IND ............. 4 Hurbaugh, John b: Aft. 1850 ................. +//, C m: Bef. 1872 .................. 5 Hurbaugh, Mary b: 08/17/1872 in Floyd Co.,IND d: 08/17/1872 in Floyd Co.,IND ........ 3 Evilsizer, George Washington b: 12/21/1827 d: 12/13/1872 in Harrison Co, IN Fact 1: Wolfe Cemetery, Harrison Co.,IN ............ +Swank, America m: 08/14/1840 in Harrison Co,IN ........ 3 Evilsizer, Rachel Jane b: 1831 in In ............ +Fite, John S b: 1830 in In m: 02/09/1852 in Harrison Co,IN ............. 4 Fite, Madora b: 1856 in In ............. 4 Fite ........ 3 Evilsizer, David b: 1834 in In ............ +Cullins, Mary F b: Abt. 1841 in In m: 10/12/1858 in Harrison Co,IN ............. 4 Evilsizer, Murphy E b: 1859 in IN ... 2 Wise, Michael b: Abt. 1797 ....... +Radar, Ann m: 04/14/1817 ... 2 Wise, Abraham b: Abt. 1798 ... 2 Wise, John, Jr b: Bef. 1799 d: 08/1816 in Rockingham Co.,VA ....... +Lamb, Virginia ( Polly) b: Abt. 1781 m: Aft. 1800 in Rockingham Co.,VA ........ 3 Wise, Anne ........ 3 Wise, Betsy ........ 3 Wise, Catherine (Cate) ........ 3 Wise, John III ........ 3 Wise, Peggy (Margaret) ........ 3 Wise, Polly ........ 3 Wise, Sally ........ 3 Wise, William ........ 3 Wise, Sarah or Barbara b: Aft. 1800 ............ +Kiser, Michael m: 01/20/1826 in Rockingham Co.,VA

    06/19/1998 01:19:58
    1. Re: Mississippi Wise family
    2. Oels' house
    3. aka wrote: > > YOU ONLY NEED TO SEND IT ONCE YOU > KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO- why did you send it twice?

    06/19/1998 07:09:54
    1. Re: Mississippi Wise family
    2. aka
    3. YOU ONLY NEED TO SEND IT ONCE YOU KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    06/19/1998 05:27:43
    1. Re: Mississippi Wise family
    2. aka
    3. YOU ONLY NEED TO SEND IT ONCE YOU KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    06/19/1998 05:27:14
    1. Re: OH>MIC>CO>CA C.H.WISE family!
    2. Joe Lynn
    3. Sorry Amy, none of those people show up in our line. Joe Lynn -----Original Message----- From: Russcalion@aol.com <Russcalion@aol.com> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, June 18, 1998 4:27 PM Subject: Re: OH>MIC>CO>CA C.H.WISE family! >I am looking for info on Charles Avery Wise b Ohio. He had a son named Lester >William Wise b Cabell Co. W.V. in 1902. We have some common 1st. names, do you >know of any possible connections. Amy > >

    06/18/1998 07:04:03
    1. Re: OH>MIC>CO>CA C.H.WISE family!
    2. I am looking for info on Charles Avery Wise b Ohio. He had a son named Lester William Wise b Cabell Co. W.V. in 1902. We have some common 1st. names, do you know of any possible connections. Amy

    06/18/1998 10:18:42
    1. The Wise Kin Now and Then
    2. Trudy Messick
    3. Hi All, I thought this may be of interest to the list subscribers Trudy Mary's E-mail is lenawise@juno.com June 6, 1998 1310 Choctaw Street Dothan, Alabama Dear I have completed the body of my book, The Wise Kin, Now and Then. With the pages of information, pictures, maps, deeds, wills, etc.' there will be near 300 pages. This information was obtained in different ways: by visiting many of my kin in their homes; by telephone; correspondence; visiting many cemeteries; visiting state archives in Montgomery, Alabama; Atlanta, Georgia; Columbia, South Carolina; Raleigh, North Carolina; genealogical departments of several libraries, and several county court houses. The book will be hard bound. I need to have some idea about how many books I should have printed. I have learned that printing a book is very expensive, so I do not want to print too many books, neither do I want to print too few. I am sending letters to more than 100 people, but there are many people whose addresses I do not know. The book has all the information that I could find about the descendants down to the present day, of DANIEL, HERREN, MCKINNEY AND LEVI, the four sons of JOSEPH WISE who came to Southeast Alabama in the early 1820s. If you would share this information with others who you think would be interested, I would be very grateful. The cost of the book will be $45 plus $3.95 for shipping. I would need to receive $25 now to retain a book for you. When you receive the book,, you would pay the remaining $20 plus $3.95, or if you prefer, you can send the entire amount, $48.95, when you let me know that you want me to have a book printed for you. It will probably be several months before the printers will have them completed. I will mail the book to you as soon as I receive them, so please send me your accurate address when you let me know that you want to buy a book. Because I am a descendant of Joseph Wise’s son, McKinney Wise, I was able to get more information about his descendants, and especially his son Herren Wise and H Wise’s son, Augustus Wise, than the other three sons. If any errors are found in the book, and you have proof of the correction, let me know, for I plan to make a correction sheet and mail it to all who buy a book. Please let me hear from you no later than July 10, 1998, in order for me to let the publisher know how many books to print. Grateful for your quick response Mary Agn@s Wise

    06/17/1998 08:06:36
    1. Edward H. WISE
    2. Hello I am new to the list and was wondering if anyone has an Edward H. WISE. He married Marion McKay and had Mary D. Wise who was born January 29,1881 in New york City, NY. She died July 8, 1959 in Guilford, CT. She married Owen Norton of Guilford. I don't have any dates for Edward or his wife Marion. Appreciate any information. I did come across the death of Edward H. Wise Jr. March 9, 1898 in Guilford, CT. Died at 2 years and 2 months 24 days old. Born in Stony Creek, CT. However, mothers name was listed as Harriet.???? Thanks again.

    06/17/1998 07:43:43
    1. OH>MIC>CO>CA C.H.WISE family!
    2. Fern
    3. Hi all, am new to this list. Thought I would post my info just in case it may fit with some of yours. Be glad to share what I have with any one. Thank you Fern Christopher Henry Wise was born June 23, 1814, in OHIO. He married MARTHA L. ROBINS 1845. Born June 10, 1825, in OGDENSBERG, ST. LAWRENCE, CO. NEW YORK Children of C. H. WISE and MARTHA ROBINS are: 1. Amanda M Wise, born March 08, 1847 2. Cass Butler Wise, born February 02, 1849 3. Frances M Wise, born September 16, 1850 4. Christopher Henry Wise, born April 09, 1852 5. John Lester Wise, born August 30, 1856 6. Alonzo Hubert Wise, born January 08, 1859 7. Jefferson T Wise, born December 09, 1860 8. Fredrick Edgar Wise, born June 11, 1862 9. Elmer H. Wise, born March 10, 1863 10. Arthur T. Wise, born May 24, 1866 11. Bertha Jane Wise, born December 13, 1868 All born in ST. CLAIR CO. LAKE PORT P.O. MICHIGAN. Thomas Joseph Wise died May 15, 1917, in SACTO. CA. He married Lilly Pearch in Colorado, Leadville, Lake Co., daughter of Thos. R. Pearch. Children of Thomas Wise and Lilly Pearch are: 1. Ethel May Wise, born March 28, 1889. 2. Christopher Thomas Wise, born September 08, 1890, died August 1891. 3. Royal Verner Wise, born September 08, 1892. 4. Elbert Manard Wise, born October 16, 1893, died May 14, 1951. 5. Charles Sylvester Wise, born June 05, 1896. 6. Leon Edition Wise, born February 16, 1898. 7. Archie Eugene Wise, born March 19, 1901. 8. Ruth Violet Wise, born April 27, 1903. 9. Theodore R. Wise, born May 16, 1905, died January 1979 in San Francisco. 10. Louise Irene Wise, born January 19, 1907. 11. Arthur Burnell Wise, born October 07, 1908, died November 1961. 12. Margaret Evelyn Wise, born November 23, 1910, died September 1976 in San Francisco. She married Pettit. all born in Colorado, Leadville, Lake Co.; I believe. Younger ones may have been born is Sacto Ca.

    06/17/1998 05:31:29
    1. Re: Mississippi Wise family
    2. Joe Lynn
    3. Thanks Linda, Be glad to keep in touch with you. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Luci60@aol.com <Luci60@aol.com> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 12:45 PM Subject: Re: Mississippi Wise family > Lydia Wise married Nathaniel Spears. I found a book, I would love to have, >in the Anniston, AL library yesterday. I live in GA. A History of Marlboro >Co., SC compiled by Rev. J. A. W. Thomas and published in 1897, 1971, and 1978 >by Regional Publishing Co. in Baltimore, MD. Its Library of Congress # >73-181859 and the International # 0-8063-79855. There was quite a bit of >information on the Wise and Spears. Too much for me to copy at 25 cents a >page. >P. 58 it states that Jonathan Wise appointed and others were appointed to >build a courthouse and jail >p. 61 Lydia Wise and Nathaniel Spears had 2 sons and a daughter. He came from >Va. When he died she married a Mr. Trawick. Nathaniel came to Carolina and >staked down a claim on banks of Three Creeks. >P. 214 WW Wise wounded severely; alive, Muster Roll Co., F 21st Reg. SC Vol. >The book also told of the Spears/Wise family as baking the best cakes in town. >Next time I go (within a month) I plan to take sufficient money to copy these >pages concerning the Wise/Spears section of the book. I did copy a Marlboro >map which was in the back of the book showing where all families lived at the >time. Spears and Wise family houses were included. Some of the Spears/Wise >descendants traveled west and I know some Spears ended up in Mississippi >because my ggrandfather was born there. I haven't found the missing links >yet. Hope to keep in touch with you concerning this matter. Linda >

    06/17/1998 09:58:26
    1. Re: Mississippi Wise family
    2. Joe Lynn
    3. We don't have any brother, sisters, father, mother in South Carolina. All we know is William was born there. Any thing you have on S.C. Wise's would be appreciated. Joe Lynn -----Original Message----- From: Luci60@aol.com <Luci60@aol.com> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 12:10 PM Subject: Re: Mississippi Wise family >Would this Wise be related to Lydia Wise who married Nathaniel Spears in >Marlboro Co., SC in 1753? Linda > >

    06/17/1998 09:25:34