Hello again, Looking further into my index, I find 3 references for 'Lizzie Wise'. Maybe one of these will ring a bell for someone. First - Lizzie Wise (daughter of Harvey Wise b. 1833 in Watauga County N.C.) - one of six children - married a gentleman with the last name of Bennett. Second - Lizzie Wise (daughter of Corneleus Wise and Susan Ward) - one of eight children - married a gentleman with the last name of Ledford. Third - Eva Lizzie Wize b. February 24, 1882 in N.C. d. 1967; daughter of Calvin H. Wise (b. in N.C.) and Grazilda Isadora Barrier (b. July 5, 1857 in N.C. d. December 27, 1929); one of three children. Hope this helps. Doug Seelen - Dseelen@aol.com

Hello, Your post caught my attention. In my search for information regarding my ancestor Tom Wise, married to Patty Wilson in N.C. I ran across information regarding Mary Clara Wise married to Phillip Coulter in Rowan County N.C.. Since I have recently moved, I'll have to look for the information (I think I know where it probably is, I just haven't unpacked it all yet). Post me back if you are interested. BTW, Tom Wise and Patty Wilson are as far back as I have been able to locate. I believe they were married in Burke County, N.C. on October 4, 1830 and had 11 children (if my grandmother's notes are correct). My great- grandmother was Eva Lizzie Wise born in N.C. on February 24, 1882 - died 1967. Let me know. Doug Seelen

I need to correct my query for Joseph Wise b. Craven Co. N. C. That was an error. He was born in Wayne Co., N. C. ca 1770. Sorry about that! Dorothy S. Crook dotsc@net1inc.net

Searching for name of wife of Joseph Wise b. ca 1770 in Craven, N. C. He died ca 1837 Dale Co., AL. Known children: Herren who married Nancy, Daniel m. Sarah Singleton, McKinney m. Annie Frances Phillips, and Levy. Was his father John Wise of Craven Co.? Would appreciate any help. Dorothy S. Crook dotsc@net1inc.net

I have a Charles Wise in my line. This is in the Virginia-Maryland area. Kenneth Wise Kwisesr@aol.com

I have a Samuel Wise born circa 1840 in Penn. Possibly brother to Harvey Wise. Married Eliza Ann Hartzler in MO. They both died in Oklahoma. Children included Mary, Ida, William Henry, James, Sarah, John Charles "Charlie" b 1873, Arthur, Effie and Earl. Possibly a Clyde in there somewhere, too. Anybody have a connection? Crossing my toes, Trudy

Hi all, I located the Illustrated Album It was published by Moss & Brother Publishers, Philadelphia Under that in faint blue letters :L.N. Rosenthal's hth. Philad 4 In the album are drawn name cards where people wrote their names inside: E.L. WELLS; C.L. HAWKEL (?); H.N. (can't make out the last part); W.D. MATTHEWS; W.G. CROFT; W.N. HAWKS (or HANKS). There is a poem to "Lizzie" by Ruth J.(?) PEABODY/ Columbus, June 11th, 1858: Hast seen the sun, at early morn,/ In majesty arise;/Seen him his trackless course pursue/On through the cloudless skies;/And his last soft, effulgent rays/Steal gently from thy fixed gaze? This may thy life, sweet Lizzie, be/A cloudless summer day,/ May happiness , and peace, and love,/ Attend thee on thy way;/ Gently as steal the shades of even,/ Thy spirit win its way to heaven. Another entry in the album reads: To Miss Lizzie "Theres not an hour of day, or dreaming night but I am with thee Theres not a breeze but whispers of thy name and not a flower beneath the sun but in its fragrance tells a tale -of thee" C. Love Not Springs July 24th, 1858 Anyone related to this lady please contact me. Either she or a desc. moved to Beaumont ,TX I found this in a rent house attic about 30yrs ago. If someone had something like this which belonged to one of my ancestors, I would love to have it back. Thanks to the list... Sherry--Beaumont, TX

Charles (Charley) WISE d 18 Oct 1920. Not sure who this is but this entry appears in a diary belonging to my grandmother. May be a son of a George W. WISE; probably in the southwestern portion of Pennsylvania or possible in eastern Ohio. Anyone recognize him? Beverly

At 12:45 AM 7/19/98 EDT, you wrote: >Sherry, > Do you have any Charles Wise's in your line? Amy Amy--I saw your posting on the WISE mailing list on Rootsweb. I have four Charles WISEs in my database: Charles Washington WISE (my ggrandfather) b. 10 Dec 1840 Macon, Missouri, d. 10 Apr 1921, Lookeba, Oklahoma, s/o Thomas Jefferson WISE and Gabriella HALL, m. 1866 Louisa Catherine HALL, his first cousin and my ggrandmother. Charles W. (THOMAS) WISE, b. bf. 1866, s/o Louisa Catherine HALL above by her first marriage to Charley THOMAS. Family lore says he adopted the WISE surname on his own because he wanted nothing to do with his father. Charles Mattis WISE, b. 8 Jun 1833, Fleming, Kentucky, s/o John WISE (My ggggrandfather) and Mary Ann PRATHER (John's second wife). Charles Lewis WISE (brother of John above), b. 1812, d. 1877, s/o Adam WISE, Jr. and Mary (Polly) THOMAS, m. Suzannah E. ABELL. I also have a letter written to my late aunt Felicia Lois GROAT by a C. H. WISE in 1935 from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I'm not sure where this person fits. He refers to my aunt as his niece, which would make him my grandmother's brother. The only brother my grandmother had with the first initial 'C' was Charles W. above, who was her half brother. That would make the middle initial 'W' incorrect. This C. H. refers to a daughter (or wife?) Margaret and a daughter nicknamed "Babe," who was training to be a nurse. Please let me know if any of these Charleses is the one you seek. Mary Keck 5519 Clarene Drive Bethel Park, PA 15102-2409 (412) 835-5018

Hi again Sally - Thanks for the reply and the offer about the Ellis family. My husbands family have a book on their family and I believe it was done about 30 or so years ago. Kenne

I must apologize to everyone because I personally have no "Wise" in my family lines but I am very intent on locating the descendants of this lady. I found a "graduation album" when I was 15 (I'm 44 now) and I've hung on to it all these years thinking I would find someone who was a desc. here in Beaumont, TX . The oldest date in the album is 1853 so that would make it almost 145 yrs old!! The reason I was looking here is because I found it in the attic of a rent house (you know how kids go snooping!). I have the album put up but will try to find where I put it. I had a fire in '96' and what didn't burn , I put in a storage unit. My grandmother passed away in March and I'm living in her house with her things and my things and it is a mess here! I will see who all signed her book. Sorry for the l-o-n-g answer Amy. Sherry Noeller, Beaumont, TX

Looking for info on Elizabeth Wise(1817-1894)born in NC,died in GA ,daughter of John Wise.

Hello, I am researching two ladies. One is Mary Clara WISE, b c 1764, who married Phillip COULTER/KOLTER. They resided in Rowan Co. & Lincoln Co., NC. I have no other information on Mary Clara. Any and all assistance greatly appreciated. The second is: Mrs. Anne WISE (widow) who married 17 Apr 1737 in Norfolk Co., VA/Surry-Sussex Co., VA to Ralph McGee. Again, any and all assistance is greatly appreciated. I hope to hear from some cousins out there. Thank you, Dianne dianne@perigee.net

Sherry, Do you have any Charles Wise's in your line? Amy

Hello SallyAnne, What I have is a "graduation Album". The Inscription reads "To Miss Lizzy Wise" but her name probably was Elizabeth. There are many poems written in there to her and she must have been a very pretty and nice lady because there are really nice things written to her. The oldest poem in the book is from "George, Columbus, Ohio 1853". I found this book in the attic of a large house my mother rented when I was about 15 yrs. old here in Beaumont, TX. I have no idea where it came from or how long it had been there. Being at least 145 yrs. old, it is not in the best of condition and the ink is beging to fade on some of the poems. I offered it to the local historical library but they were not interested. I thought they would be better equiped to care for it. Now I have it in two gal size plastic bags trying to preserve it. My house burned in 96' and I lost alot of things which can never be replaced but the book came out ok! Right now, I have it put up so I will have to hunt to find it. Sherry,

I am looking on any information on a PETER WISE born about 1818 of Cincinatti, Hamilton County, Ohio I do not have any marrage info or death info or parents... I do know that he was the father of FRANCES ARNOLD WISE born 18 June 1844 in Cincinatti, Hamilton County, Ohio died 31 May 1921 in Bloomfield, Knox County Nebraska wife of HENRY LINGO JOHNS Thank you... and if I did not post this right please let me know so that future posts will be right....

Diane, I hope I am not running my line in the ground but I have a Nathaniel SPEARS born in England 1730 came to US through VA and married Lydia WISE in 1753. They moved to Marlboro Co. SC. I too am searching for connections to both Lydia WISE and Nathaniel SPEARS in VA and SC. In a message dated 98-07-18 21:39:27 EDT, you write: << I am researching two ladies. One is Mary Clara WISE, b c 1764, who married Phillip COULTER/KOLTER. They resided in Rowan Co. & Lincoln Co., NC. I have no other information on Mary Clara. Any and all assistance greatly appreciated. The second is: Mrs. Anne WISE (widow) who married 17 Apr 1737 in Norfolk Co., VA/Surry-Sussex Co., VA to Ralph McGee. Again, any and all assistance is greatly appreciated. >>

Hi Kenne Ellis, Small world! I don't believe any of the Wise's had roots in Virginia, but you never know. As far back as I have traced, they are from Ohio, mostly Mansfield. BTW also, since your last name is Ellis, I have ENORMOUS amounts of info on the Ellis ancestry if you should be interested. Ellis is my married name. SallyAnne Wise Ellis sallya@webserve.net Betsylu@aol.com wrote: > Hi Sally - Was your Wise family ever in VA? BTW, my daughter's name is Sally > Anne Ellis. > > Kenne Ellis > email: Betsylu@aol.com

In a message dated 98-07-18 16:54:32 EDT, you write: << I don't believe any of the Wise's had roots in Virginia, but you never know. >> I have Nathaniel Spears who married Lydia Wise in 1753. He passed through VA on his way to Marlboro Co., SC. I don't know where they were married but believe it to be in VA before going to SC.

Hello Sherry, I have been researching my Wise side of the family, and they are all from Mansfield, and Cleveland, Ohio. I have not yet found a Lizzy, but I am still researching. Do you have any other information regarding the object that you have found? Any other names associated with it? SallyAnne Wise Ellis sallya@webserve.net Callyberry@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone have any information on her desc. or living relatives? I have > something I found in an attic in 1969 in Beaumont, TX and I've been hanging on > to it incase I found someone it would now belong to. > Sherry