Ted, I am a WISE who grew up in Butler Co., PA about 25-30 miles from Zelienople. I haven't connected my line to any other WISEs in Butler Co. but I've always wondered we were related. Can you tell me a little about your line? Maybe we can make a connection. Jim Wise WISE Listowner At 05:03 PM 10/4/98 EDT, you wrote: >Is anyone researching the WISE/WEISS/WEISZ families in Zelienople, PA? > >Ted (tkrampf@aol.com) > > Jim Wise jwise@wvadventures.net List maintainer for the WISE surname discussion group To subscribe: Mailto:WISE-L-request@rootsweb.com Put subscribe in the subject line and the body of the message

Is anyone researching the WISE/WEISS/WEISZ families in Zelienople, PA? Ted (tkrampf@aol.com)

Hi Folks: I know I have an almost impossible task....We have been researching on and off for 28 years to find some link to the above Mary Lee Wise.. According to her, she was born July 18, 1869 in Missouri. Somehow she came to Lebanon, Ky area with or without her parents and was raised in that area, but at least for part of that time was raised by a family named Putnam....She was taken into the Catholic Church and sponsored by Ann Spalding when she was 18....No records are found at the church...We went years ago and they said that a fire had destroyed all their records. She was married to Green Moore Dutton at Lebanon Station, Ky on July 19, 1894 and subsequently moved to Russell Co., Ky. Green Moore Dutton ran logs up and down from the Cumberland River area from Tennessee to Lebanon and that is supposedly how they met. Now, we know the history after she married, but cannot find a father or mother for her.....Do ANY of you have any of your WISE family who emigrated to Kentucky (Marion Co.) and could possibly have died and this child was raised by these people, or do any of you have the Spaldings or Putnams as marrying into your family? We have come to the conclusion that she was probably illegitimant and they kept it quiet....Some of her daughters used to tease her about that fact and she used to get really mad. However, she insisted she was born in Missouri.... Marilyn Phelps ljpmap@indy.net

Seeking any info. concerning George Wise. Probebly born in Indiana abt. 1840. Married Mary Ragen, dates and places unknown. His son, Casper George Wise (my grandfather) was born in Indiana in 1863 and at some point moved to Wapello Co. Iowa, I don't know if the move was with or without his parents. Casper then married Olive E. Knight.They lived, raised their family and died in Oskaloosa Iowa. Thanks for any and all help in advance...........Harvey Tomlin

At 08:46 AM 9/30/98 EDT, you wrote: >Would you please look up Charles Avery Wise. He was born in Ohio but lived >around Cabell Co W.V. Thank You > >Dear Myrtle, My book is about families in south Carolina. all I have on a Charles wise is 15C Charles Wise. Did not appear on the settlement in 1900. He is listed as part of Daniel wise family b 1800 Lincoln N C m to Rhoda Terry Stokes 1820, possibly a grndchild. Sorry. Bertha Wise

Hello, I am just beginning to research the Wise side of the family. I am looking for Florence Wise She married George Hoke in the northeastern Colorado area in the early 1930's. I have no further information on her. Does anyone know anything about her or her family? R. Kadmiel kadmiel@netvision.net.il

This is my WISE line, would appreciate any help. I do not have the date of birth or place of birth of Henry Wise and Margaret__________. I believe it between 1790-1810. If this fits with your line, please let me know and I will send more. Have a very good day. Elaine McDowell HENRY AND MARGARET ? WISE I do not know where Henry Wise was born. Margaret ? Wise was born in Bedford County, Tennessee They were married in Shelbyville, Tennessee. As Of February 1, 1998, I know of two children. I believe there was more. SYNTHA WISE married Joseph Mack Williams. No other information known as of February 1, 1998. JAMES WISE Born: November 17, 1827 Bradley County, Tennessee Description: James was five ½ feet tall, light complexion, blue eyes and black hair. Military History: He was a private in Company M. Phelps Regiment Greene Co. Missouri Home Guard. First Marriage: Elizabeth Farley: No information known on her. I do know she died in 1883 Christian County, Missouri. Known Children: Henry Wise born 1855 Tennessee James Wise Jr. born 1859 Tennessee Nancy C. Wise born 1861 Missouri Robert J. Wise born 1868 Missouri Second Marriage: Mary Tiny Wilhite (Wilhoit) Smith A widow of William Smith. Mary and William had a son, Thomas Andrew Smith Who was born December 13, 1883 in High Anvil, Stone County, Missouri. Born: August 9, 1855 Searcy County, Arkansas Parents: William Wilhite (Wilhoit) and Elizabeth Rose Children: Francis Corilla Wise born January 16, 1887 Billings, Missouri Died 1967 Pampa, Gray County, Texas Jessie Franklin Wise born November 11, 1888 Billings, Missouri Died 1977 Indio, California Anna Mae Wise born May 26, 1892 Billings, Missouri Died June 16, 1971 Lubbock, Texas Sponsor of McDowell list. to subscribe http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/mcdowell to post a message to the list mcdowell@onelist.com Researching the following surnames on my husbands side; McDowell, Collins, Barnes, Wise, Blalock, Moore, Knight, Lewis, Wilhite, Benfield, Researching the following surnames on my side: Lapp, Bath (Bott, Batt), Hoffman, Stratman, Uhing, Schafers, Stolta, Moll, Genter and Wittfeld. Bob and Elaine McDowell Rt. 8 Box 1336 Amarillo, Texas 79118

I am searching for information of the decendants and ancestors of Joseph WEISS, b abt 1850 in Germany came to the states had 4 children Joseph b; 8-1880 in New York d 1959 Bronx, New York He married An orphan by the name of Catherine Caroline Faahrs, other children are John, who married a Kuni?, George who married a May?, and Lou who married a Annie?. Also seaching for the family Crest of WEISS. Any and all help no matter how little would be greatly appreciated. Kathy

Would you please look up Charles Avery Wise. He was born in Ohio but lived around Cabell Co W.V. Thank You

I have the same problem. I have a picture of gr grandparents and no one knows a first name. It is not on the picture either. I know there was an Edmund and a John and Mary and Jerdon Hill, all from Kansas, and I know that there is a Gene Wise in Kansas now that looks enough like my son to be mistaken for him. I know they were miners and followed the mines. At one time were in Cowley Co. Kansas. If any of you have ancestors that came from North Carolina, I have a book called German speaking people west of the Catawba. Lots of Wises in it. Be glad to look for anyone that needs it. Some of those Wises moved on down to Missouri. Bertha Wise >Sometime ago in the infancy of my genealogical work, I found a wedding >announcement in the 21 Dec 1896 edition of the Coffeyville Journal >(Coffeyville, Montgomery Co., KS) that mentioned Myrtle WISE. I jotted the >reference down and I remember that it struck me because my Wises are from >that area and I had no record of her. That was the ONLY reference I could >find. If you'd like to read the article, I found it on page 1, col D and >page 4, col D. > >I'm not sure its connected, but later, on 30 Dec 1896 (page 1), an article >appeared regarding the marriage of the daughter of George WISE. Floyd and >"Grandfather" WISE [WHY DO THEY DO THAT!] were in attendance. Martin WISE >gave a gift. I don't have any record of any of these folk either, except >for maybe Grandfather :-). > >If anyone knows anything about Myrtle, George, Floyd, Martin, or the >ubiquitous "Grandfather", please drop me a line. > >Thanks all, > >Frank Wise [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] > >Researching WISE, BLEVENS, BITNER, LASLEY, SANDS, NOBLETT, GRAY > > > > >

Sometime ago in the infancy of my genealogical work, I found a wedding announcement in the 21 Dec 1896 edition of the Coffeyville Journal (Coffeyville, Montgomery Co., KS) that mentioned Myrtle WISE. I jotted the reference down and I remember that it struck me because my Wises are from that area and I had no record of her. That was the ONLY reference I could find. If you'd like to read the article, I found it on page 1, col D and page 4, col D. I'm not sure its connected, but later, on 30 Dec 1896 (page 1), an article appeared regarding the marriage of the daughter of George WISE. Floyd and "Grandfather" WISE [WHY DO THEY DO THAT!] were in attendance. Martin WISE gave a gift. I don't have any record of any of these folk either, except for maybe Grandfather :-). If anyone knows anything about Myrtle, George, Floyd, Martin, or the ubiquitous "Grandfather", please drop me a line. Thanks all, Frank Wise [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] Researching WISE, BLEVENS, BITNER, LASLEY, SANDS, NOBLETT, GRAY

My Wises also came from Kansas. All I know is Gr father Jerdon Hill Wise married Lovinia Haney in Cowley County, Silverdale, Kansas. His people supposedly immigrated through Germany from Holland, and they followed the coal mines down into Wilburton and on down into Dawson, a suburb of Tulsa, Ok. Two of his sisters married into the Adamson family of Adamson coal mines, now Adamson Oil Co. All I am sure of past that is if I find a Wise family in the mid 1800's with child with the name Jerdon Hill, that is bound to be them. I have an old tintype picture of the parents who emmigrated, but no one knows their first names. bwise@oklahoma.net Bertha Wise

Dear Frank Wise, I just read your message and I am connected to Wises in Kansas. I have a picture of S.Z. Wise. taken in Lydon, Kansas. Would you please get in touch with me. THX. Garth E. Brackbill

These names aren't familiar as I am able to trace my own Wise line back as far as 1850 with Sylvester WISE in Labette Co., Kansas. He had to come from somewhere. Perhaps you might have him listed somewhere? Frank Wise -----Original Message----- From: Erikohio@aol.com [mailto:Erikohio@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, September 26, 1998 7:45 To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: TN? and KY Wises I'm new to this list. Here is my info. Any remarks or info would be appreciated! [1] John Wise (b. Tennessee?) m. Gouldman (d. Nov 1834, Estill Co., KY) Children: David, and others? [2] Reverend David Wise (b. 5 Apr 1834; d. 3 Sep 1895, Estill Co., KY) m. Mary Spry (4 Apr 1833, Estill Co., KY; d. 1 Feb 1899) Children: Eliza Ellen, and others? Note: David Wise's first wife was Rachel Cooper [3] Eliza Ellen Wise (b. 21 Oct 1865, d. 26 Mar 1934) m. John Henry Hall (b. 21 May 1858, Estill Co., KY; d. 24 Sep 1926, Estill Co., KY) Children: Laura Francis, Minnie May, Mary Liz, Williard Allan, Nellie Katherine, Clenton Omer

Unfortunately, I don't have him listed, Frank. Good luck! Erik

I'm new to this list. Here is my info. Any remarks or info would be appreciated! [1] John Wise (b. Tennessee?) m. Gouldman (d. Nov 1834, Estill Co., KY) Children: David, and others? [2] Reverend David Wise (b. 5 Apr 1834; d. 3 Sep 1895, Estill Co., KY) m. Mary Spry (4 Apr 1833, Estill Co., KY; d. 1 Feb 1899) Children: Eliza Ellen, and others? Note: David Wise's first wife was Rachel Cooper [3] Eliza Ellen Wise (b. 21 Oct 1865, d. 26 Mar 1934) m. John Henry Hall (b. 21 May 1858, Estill Co., KY; d. 24 Sep 1926, Estill Co., KY) Children: Laura Francis, Minnie May, Mary Liz, Williard Allan, Nellie Katherine, Clenton Omer

I currently live near near Warren, Trumbull County, Ohio - and very willing to help you research someone in this area - please check out my other surnames at the bottom of this message. Please help me: I am trying to find out where this woman died: VIVEIROS@MSN.COM ******** Marietta V. (Oviatt) HAYMAKER (born 10 Oct 1852 in Braceville, Ohio Trumbull county Daughter of Uri & Sarah Jane (Allen) OVIATT Widow of George HAYMAKER married 14 Aug 1877 in Warren, Ohio Mother of Blanche Haymaker (possible never married and also moved to Detroit area) Mother of Ida May (Haymaker) FRY - wife of Charles FRY -- Both died in Detroit - buried at Forest Lawn Cemetery - Van Dyke Avenue, Detroit Mother of Charles Haymaker - died @ 19 in Warren, Ohio 9 Oct 1903 Mother of Alice (Haymaker) HAYMAN - wife of Lloyd Burton Hayman - lived in Toledo, Ohio Mother of Grace V. (Haymaker) REPRECHT wife of Frank - lived in Cleveland area In 1910 - Marietta and her daughters (along with 3 sons-in-law) sold land in Braceville, Ohio that Marietta's mother left to her in her Will. That is the last I can find of Marietta - She may have moved to Detroit but she is not buried in the same cemetery as Ida & Charles. One Blanche Haymaker born about 1889 (making her the youngest) applied for a SS card in Michigan - I hope this helps. I appreciate any help you might be....THANK YOU !! Robbi V. VIVEIROS@MSN.COM Other Surnames: Oviatt - Haymaker - Fry - Wise - McKinney - Queen - Greathouse Reprecht - Hayman - Burton -Stapleton - Robinson - Lutkins - Camp

>From SC, James and Permelia (MILLER) WISE are next found in Mississippi where they lived for some time before moving to North central Louisiana abt 1830 so we're not talking about the same James WISE. I have no information on my James' parents or siblings but he probably wouldn't have had a brother of the same name. Maybe a cousin. In or near Baton Rouge covers a lot of territory if you're looking for a burial site. What sources have you checked for your James WISE's grave? Dot Wise Wirth dotwirth@aol.com Baton Rouge, LA In a message dated 9/16/98 12:11:50 AM Central Daylight Time, rhensley@swbell.net writes: << In reference to your James & Permelia Miller Wise, was this family ever in McNairy County, TN? Do you have any information on their children? I am looking for parents of John C. Wise, b. 1828 in Tennessee. His father's name was James and was born in South Carolina, but I'm unsure of his mother's name. I believe this family was in McNairy County from about 1840 - 1870 where James was last recorded living with a Reed family (his daughter and son-in law). Evidently he was widowed by this time. I couldn't find them after that but a distant cousin said she thought he was buried in or near Baton Rouge, but I cannot find any mention there. Other Wise first names found in McNairy County were Henry, William, & John. Thanks for your help. Susan Hensley rhensley@swbell.net >>

This is a book about the four Wise boys and their families who were the descendants of Joseph Wise who came to Southeast Alabama in the early 1820's from Wilkes County Georgia. If you want to know more about this book, write me Mary A. Wise at 1310 Choctaw Street Dothan, Alabama. Phone 1-334-792-2381 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

The following is an excerpt from William G. Cutler's "History of the State of Kansas" (1883), Montgomery County, part 12. "Cherryvale [Labette County] was laid off as a town site in May, 1871, by the Kansas City, Lawrence and Southern Kansas Railway Company, and is situated in the eastern part of Montgomery county, about ten miles east of the city of Independence. The land, upon which the place was built, was originally taken as a claim, by Joseph Wise..." Cutler's history can be found on the Internet at: http://www.ukans.edu/carrie/kancoll/books/cutler Frank Wise