Mitchell, Where is your Oklahoma connection? My great grandmother was Mary Lois Wise. She married Joe Warren in Nov. 1898 in Lamar County, TX. My grandfather J.E. Warren was born in Blossom, TX. They later moved to Soper, Oklahoma. According to grandpa, they are buried in the Sugar Creek Cemetery, north of Soper. Soper is located near Hugo, OK in S.E. Oklahoma. An interesting thing to note, my grandpa says her father was "Will Wise". Does that correlate with your research? Wendy ---------- >From: "Mitchell L. Wise" <mitchlwise@tusco.net> >To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Wise in Iowa >Date: Tue, Oct 27, 1998, 11:01 AM > >Harvey, >Ever heard of the Dotts Family?? >here is the Whole Story--- > >THE IOWA CONNECTION > > My name is Mitchell Wise. I live and have spent most of my life in >Ohio, >particularly Tuscarawas County, in the Village of Newcomerstown. I am 40 >years >old, having been born in 1958. > I knew growing up as a kid that I had some close relatives living >in Oklahoma, >but not until my recent research into my family's geneology did I >discover I had an >"Iowa Connection". > My great-great grandfather, William T. Wise was a private in the >32nd Ohio >Volunteer Infantry Division. William T. had a difficult military career. >He was >taken prisoner of war in 1862, had his gun explode in his face in 1863, >and was shot >in the left leg just above the left knee at the seige of Atlanta in >1864. > After returning from the war in 1865, William T.'s trouble may have >only just >begun.While working for the railroad in 1875, a small sliver of iron >from a rail he >was cutting lodged in his left eye. This eye would be removed within the >next few >years leaving him with only the sight of his right eye which was >affected by the gun >exploding in 1863. > William T. , the father of five children, still worked for the >railroad though his >eyesight made it very difficult.He was drawing a pension of $6.00 per >month from >the army for the gun shot wound, but needing more he tried (without >success) to get >addition pension money for his right eye. > A special examiner was sent to the area to obtain depositions from >family, friends, >neighbors, employers, and doctors as to the condition of William T. >before he went >into the Army and his condition upon returning. From these handwritten >depositions >we have learned a tremendous amount about William T.'s life before, >during, and >after the Civil War. > William T. gave his deposition February 16th,1892. In it he states: > >"After my discharge, I was at home for two months but did no work. In >September '65 >I went to Eddyville, Wapello County, Iowa and drove team for Phillip >Dotts (or Dutts), >a coal dealer and farmer to the march of 1867. I boarded with Dotts >(Dutts). I knew >Hiram (Shoben?), farmer, Ira Brown, laborer, Samuel (Crow?), laborer, >and others >which names I cannot give. I had the (billions?) fever soon after I went >there and a >doctor from Eddyville treated me for it, I can't give his name, I was at >Dotts' at the >time. I came home in the spring of 1867 and ...." > > Annie M. Wise, William T.'s older sister also added this >information in her >deposition: > >"I think he (William T.) stopped at Eddyville, Iowa with our uncle >George Wise, now >dead. Don't know how long he was there, nor can I tell whether he was at >work >then.Thomas Dotts (Dutts), our uncle lives at Eddyville." > > The special investigator taking the deposition spelled "Dutts" as >you see here but >the handwriting on William T.s deposition makes it unclear and a I am >unsure of the >correct spelling. > William T.'s brother, Samuel I. Wise also fought in the Civil War >and after he >returned home in 1865 to Ohio, he married Sarah Norris and began his >family. >Samuel died in 1928 in Missouri and his obituary contained this Iowa >connection: > >" moved his family of five children and his first wife, Sarah Norris >(from Ohio) to a >farm near Ottumwa, Iowa in 1881" > > Samuel and his family left Iowa five years later and moved to >Caldwell County, >Missouri and later he was living in Cameron when he died. Samuel and >Sarah were >married in 1872 so when they left Iowa in 1886 their oldest child was >probably not >yet thirteen years old so I suspect all of his children left Iowa with >him. > Checking the road atlas, I discovered Ottumwa and Eddyville are >only separated >by 20 miles of Iowa farm land. > Another twist to this story is a man named Elias Kendall, William >T. and >Samuel's Mother's brother, their uncle.The 1860 Ohio census for >Tuscarawas >County, Jefferson Township, has a 41 year old laborer named Elias >Kendall >boarding on a farm owned by Thomas Dotts. Mr. Dotts, age 56, also has an >18 year >old son named Thomas B. Dotts. > We know William T. returned to Ohio and Samuel went on to >Missouri. The >George Wise mentioned may have returned to Ohio with William T. or he >may have >been living there before William arrived and stayed there when he left. > There is a George Wise buried in Bethel Cemetery, Salem Township, >Tuscarawas >County, Ohio along side three of William T. and Samuel's siblings, but >he died in >1875 at the age of 84. If this is the same George Wise that was in Iowa, >he would >have been in his late 70's while doing this traveling. > My best guess is the George Wise that was in Iowa is William T.'s >father's >brother, his uncle and the George Wise buried in Ohio is William T.'s >grandfather. > The Dotts family on the other hand could be related to William T.'s >mother's side >of the family. At this point that is unclear. But is is very clear that >the Wise family in >Ohio has an "Iowa Connection". > >Anyone having any interest, information, or question about this story is >encouraged >to contact me at (614)-498-4562. Or write to > >Mitchell L. Wise >335 N. College St. >Newcomerstown, Ohio 43832 > >E-mail - mitchlwise@tusco.net > > > >

Harvey, Ever heard of the Dotts Family?? here is the Whole Story--- THE IOWA CONNECTION My name is Mitchell Wise. I live and have spent most of my life in Ohio, particularly Tuscarawas County, in the Village of Newcomerstown. I am 40 years old, having been born in 1958. I knew growing up as a kid that I had some close relatives living in Oklahoma, but not until my recent research into my family's geneology did I discover I had an "Iowa Connection". My great-great grandfather, William T. Wise was a private in the 32nd Ohio Volunteer Infantry Division. William T. had a difficult military career. He was taken prisoner of war in 1862, had his gun explode in his face in 1863, and was shot in the left leg just above the left knee at the seige of Atlanta in 1864. After returning from the war in 1865, William T.'s trouble may have only just begun.While working for the railroad in 1875, a small sliver of iron from a rail he was cutting lodged in his left eye. This eye would be removed within the next few years leaving him with only the sight of his right eye which was affected by the gun exploding in 1863. William T. , the father of five children, still worked for the railroad though his eyesight made it very difficult.He was drawing a pension of $6.00 per month from the army for the gun shot wound, but needing more he tried (without success) to get addition pension money for his right eye. A special examiner was sent to the area to obtain depositions from family, friends, neighbors, employers, and doctors as to the condition of William T. before he went into the Army and his condition upon returning. From these handwritten depositions we have learned a tremendous amount about William T.'s life before, during, and after the Civil War. William T. gave his deposition February 16th,1892. In it he states: "After my discharge, I was at home for two months but did no work. In September '65 I went to Eddyville, Wapello County, Iowa and drove team for Phillip Dotts (or Dutts), a coal dealer and farmer to the march of 1867. I boarded with Dotts (Dutts). I knew Hiram (Shoben?), farmer, Ira Brown, laborer, Samuel (Crow?), laborer, and others which names I cannot give. I had the (billions?) fever soon after I went there and a doctor from Eddyville treated me for it, I can't give his name, I was at Dotts' at the time. I came home in the spring of 1867 and ...." Annie M. Wise, William T.'s older sister also added this information in her deposition: "I think he (William T.) stopped at Eddyville, Iowa with our uncle George Wise, now dead. Don't know how long he was there, nor can I tell whether he was at work then.Thomas Dotts (Dutts), our uncle lives at Eddyville." The special investigator taking the deposition spelled "Dutts" as you see here but the handwriting on William T.s deposition makes it unclear and a I am unsure of the correct spelling. William T.'s brother, Samuel I. Wise also fought in the Civil War and after he returned home in 1865 to Ohio, he married Sarah Norris and began his family. Samuel died in 1928 in Missouri and his obituary contained this Iowa connection: " moved his family of five children and his first wife, Sarah Norris (from Ohio) to a farm near Ottumwa, Iowa in 1881" Samuel and his family left Iowa five years later and moved to Caldwell County, Missouri and later he was living in Cameron when he died. Samuel and Sarah were married in 1872 so when they left Iowa in 1886 their oldest child was probably not yet thirteen years old so I suspect all of his children left Iowa with him. Checking the road atlas, I discovered Ottumwa and Eddyville are only separated by 20 miles of Iowa farm land. Another twist to this story is a man named Elias Kendall, William T. and Samuel's Mother's brother, their uncle.The 1860 Ohio census for Tuscarawas County, Jefferson Township, has a 41 year old laborer named Elias Kendall boarding on a farm owned by Thomas Dotts. Mr. Dotts, age 56, also has an 18 year old son named Thomas B. Dotts. We know William T. returned to Ohio and Samuel went on to Missouri. The George Wise mentioned may have returned to Ohio with William T. or he may have been living there before William arrived and stayed there when he left. There is a George Wise buried in Bethel Cemetery, Salem Township, Tuscarawas County, Ohio along side three of William T. and Samuel's siblings, but he died in 1875 at the age of 84. If this is the same George Wise that was in Iowa, he would have been in his late 70's while doing this traveling. My best guess is the George Wise that was in Iowa is William T.'s father's brother, his uncle and the George Wise buried in Ohio is William T.'s grandfather. The Dotts family on the other hand could be related to William T.'s mother's side of the family. At this point that is unclear. But is is very clear that the Wise family in Ohio has an "Iowa Connection". Anyone having any interest, information, or question about this story is encouraged to contact me at (614)-498-4562. Or write to Mitchell L. Wise 335 N. College St. Newcomerstown, Ohio 43832 E-mail - mitchlwise@tusco.net

Mitchell......I am descended from Casper George Wise (my grandfather) Believed to be born in Indiana then moved to Wapello co. Iowa, I believe in the Otumwa area. He married Olive Knight then moved to Oskaloosa, Mahaska co Iowa. Casper's Parents were George Wise and Mary Ragen, both from Indiana.I know nothing about them. It seems as though we are looking for some of the same lines, ????? Harvey Tomlin "Mitchell L. Wise" wrote: > My Great Great Grandfather William T. Wise, after returning from the > Civil War in 1865, went > to Eddyville, Iowa or Otumwa, Iowa with his uncle George Wise and stayed > their for a short time at > the home of Phillip Dotts. I am interested to know if any Wises or Dotts > still live in that area.

My Great Great Grandfather William T. Wise, after returning from the Civil War in 1865, went to Eddyville, Iowa or Otumwa, Iowa with his uncle George Wise and stayed their for a short time at the home of Phillip Dotts. I am interested to know if any Wises or Dotts still live in that area.

I also have a George WISE b. May 5, 1832 and d. March 15, 1903 in Green Twp., Indiana Co., PA. Married to Frances NICEWONGER on April 10, 1856. I don't know where he was born. HELP! Also I know his father was Solomon WISE b. 1802 and d. Sept 27, 1882 in Green Twp., Indiana Co., PA. Married to Elizabeth HILDEBRAND. Does anyone have any information on Solomon WISE or his ancestors? Brian J. WISE at patriotwise@sprintmail.com -----Original Message----- From: KDWise1@aol.com <KDWise1@aol.com> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, October 25, 1998 3:27 PM Subject: Re: George Wise >Dear Mitchell: > > This may be another George Wise to eliminate from your list because >his date of birth does not match the George you listed, but I thought I would >throw it out there so you can eliminate this one. My George was born 4/6/1810 >in Middletown, Maryland. His parents were Philip Wise and Barbara Becker and >he was alive at the time of his father's death abt 1823, however, I know >nothing else about him. I cannot find any record about him after 1823. >Kevin D. Wise > >

Do you know what his father's name was? KDWise1@aol.com wrote: > Dear Mitchell: > > This may be another George Wise to eliminate from your list because > his date of birth does not match the George you listed, but I thought I would > throw it out there so you can eliminate this one. My George was born 4/6/1810 > in Middletown, Maryland. His parents were Philip Wise and Barbara Becker and > he was alive at the time of his father's death abt 1823, however, I know > nothing else about him. I cannot find any record about him after 1823. > Kevin D. Wise

Thanks Kevin! KDWise1@aol.com wrote: > Dear Mitchell: > > This may be another George Wise to eliminate from your list because > his date of birth does not match the George you listed, but I thought I would > throw it out there so you can eliminate this one. My George was born 4/6/1810 > in Middletown, Maryland. His parents were Philip Wise and Barbara Becker and > he was alive at the time of his father's death abt 1823, however, I know > nothing else about him. I cannot find any record about him after 1823. > Kevin D. Wise

I will get all the information on that particular publication and sent it to you as soon as I can. If you would like a specific lookup --just ask. Joan Rogers wrote: > Mitchell: > > George Wise, to my knowledge, did not have any other George Wise's as > children. l do have very little information about Baltimore Wise's. I will > check. > > REPEAT: > > Concerning the book "The Maryland Heads Of Families, 1790," do you have the > author and publishing information about it, and do you have the ability to > do lookups on specific families? > > Joan Wise Rogers

CATHERINE M. WISE Born Between 1807/1808 She married Charles Strayline according to bible record on Jan. 11, 1827 in Philadelphia, PA. He Charles Strayline had abandoned Catherine between 1851-1854 in 1864 when she applied for a pension from the death of Theodore in the civil war [72nd PA infantry Gettysburg] she had not heard from or seen Charles in over two years she received a pension of eight dollars a month commencing on July 3, 1863. According to pension records in April of 1864 she was 56 years old [April is not a birth month its when she made a sworn affidavit] at this time she was living at #6 Edwin Street in Philadelphia, PA. She could not write used an X on the pension forms and had witness's who signed saying who she was. Any information on her or who her parents were would be appreciated. Mason Woodson mwood13442@aol.com

Mitchell: George Wise, to my knowledge, did not have any other George Wise's as children. l do have very little information about Baltimore Wise's. I will check. REPEAT: Concerning the book "The Maryland Heads Of Families, 1790," do you have the author and publishing information about it, and do you have the ability to do lookups on specific families? Joan Wise Rogers

Joan, Thanks for the Geo. Wise info. I can now eliminate this George from my list. Did George and Sophia have a child named George? And what about -- George Wise 4-9-1808 to Margaret Sinclair* BALT County Does anyone have information on this George? Joan Rogers wrote: > Mitchell: > > George Wise: Born 7/16/1780, Married Sophia Hammett 11/24/1813, Died > About 1830. > Parents: Adam and Frances (Unknown Maiden) Wise > > Sophia Hammett: Born Unknown, Died 9/3/1848 > Parents: Richard Hammett and Nancy Biscoe > > Children of George Wise and Sophia Hammett: > > William Robert Wise: Born 3/25/1818, Died Unknown > James Clinton Wise: Born 3/18/1815, Married Mary Savilla (Sidella) Beaven > 2/15/1844 at Our Lady's Chapel, Medley's Neck, SMC, Maryland > > This George Wise was my great-great-great-grandfather. I do not have any > other information about William, but would love to hear from others. > > Concerning the book "The Maryland Heads Of Families, 1790," do you have the > author and publishing information about it, and do you have the ability to > do lookups on specific families? > > Joan Wise Rogers

Dear Mitchell: This may be another George Wise to eliminate from your list because his date of birth does not match the George you listed, but I thought I would throw it out there so you can eliminate this one. My George was born 4/6/1810 in Middletown, Maryland. His parents were Philip Wise and Barbara Becker and he was alive at the time of his father's death abt 1823, however, I know nothing else about him. I cannot find any record about him after 1823. Kevin D. Wise

Mitchell: George Wise: Born 7/16/1780, Married Sophia Hammett 11/24/1813, Died About 1830. Parents: Adam and Frances (Unknown Maiden) Wise Sophia Hammett: Born Unknown, Died 9/3/1848 Parents: Richard Hammett and Nancy Biscoe Children of George Wise and Sophia Hammett: William Robert Wise: Born 3/25/1818, Died Unknown James Clinton Wise: Born 3/18/1815, Married Mary Savilla (Sidella) Beaven 2/15/1844 at Our Lady's Chapel, Medley's Neck, SMC, Maryland This George Wise was my great-great-great-grandfather. I do not have any other information about William, but would love to hear from others. Concerning the book "The Maryland Heads Of Families, 1790," do you have the author and publishing information about it, and do you have the ability to do lookups on specific families? Joan Wise Rogers

I believe that the George Wise who married Sophia Hammett in Nov. 1813 was the son of Adam Wise (b. 1745, St. Mary's Co., MD; d 1816, SMC) and his wife Frances. There appear to be several different George Wise's in this generation and untangling them may prove difficult.

Good question. My records show children born in Monongalia Co., VA(WV) [Batelle District] between 1816 and 1821, but no indication (yet) what happened to George or Jane after that time. Two of his sons, John (b. 1816) and Thomas (b. abt 1821) appear to have remained in Monongalia Co. long enough to have children of their own. John died in Monongalia Co. in 1892. I received correspondence indicating that some of John's children went west, ending up in Missouri, while others remained in WV. If anyone else knows more of this story, I'd be real interested in hearing it. - Laurie Wise "Mitchell L. Wise" <mitchlwise@tusco.net> on 10/23/98 12:40:15 AM Please respond to WISE-L@rootsweb.com To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com cc: (bcc: Lauress Wise/HumRRO.HUMRRO) Subject: George Wise and Jane King When did this George Wise die and where?

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------60DD2112CA475A91E5C9FF25 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------60DD2112CA475A91E5C9FF25 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from tusco.net (gmodem224.tusco.net [206.222.27.224]) by mail.tusco.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA29364 for <mitchlwise@tusco.net>; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 08:55:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36307DC8.2897AA38@tusco.net> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 08:59:53 -0400 From: "Mitchell L. Wise" <mitchlwise@tusco.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Mitchell L. Wise" <mitchlwise@tusco.net> Subject: More George Wise(Nctown, Ohio) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to find the parents of George Wise (Nctown, Ohio) born Abt.1791 in Maryland. His son was William Wise who was married to Mary Kendall.. The 1880 U. S. Census of William and Mary Wise of Salem Township near Newcomerstown, Tuscarawas County, Ohio provides the information that William's father and mother were born in Maryland. William's wife's, Mary Kendall's, father was also born in Maryland. Her mother was born in Virginia. The Coshocton County Library, Coshocton, Ohio, has a book containing information on Maryland from the 1600's to the 1800's. "The Maryland Heads of Families, 1790": William Wise St. Mary's County 1 Male 16yrs+ 2 Male 16yrs- 2 Females 8 Slaves George Wise* Washington County 1 Male 16+ 2 Females William Wise Prince George County 1 Male 16+ 1 Male 16- 2 Females *2- Thomas Wises in Prince Geo. County William Wise Kent County 1 Male 16+ 1 Male 16- 4 Females According to the dates on the George Wise(Nctown) tombstone in Bethal Cemetery, Tuscarawas County, Ohio, his birthdate would be 1791 but this could be slightly inaccurate. Remembering not only William's father was born in Maryland but also Mary Kendall's father was as well. William Kendall Kent County 1 Male 16+ 2 Male 16- 7 Females 5 Slaves Along with William Kendall, James Kendall and John Kendall were also of Kent County. These Kendalls are the only ones listed in Maryland in 1790 and although Maryland had many more Wises listed in this census, the above are the only William or Georges, with the one matching William Wise of Kent County with the Kendalls of Kent County. Marriages of Maryland 1634-1777 Richard Wise 01-13-1711 to Sarah Nichols Richard Wise 12-27-1736 to Margaret Nevil Marriages of Maryland 1778-1800 William 11-19-1778 to Elizabeth Clocker St. Marys Co. William 11-20-1788 to Elizabeth Ross Prince Geo.Co. William 05-17-1785 to Ellenor Perry Washington Co. Marriages of Maryland 1801-1820 9 listed--3 of interest-- George Wise 4-9-1808 to Margaret Sinclair* BALT County George Wise 11-24-1813 to Sophia Hammett St. Marys Co. ???Does ANYONE know where either of these two George Wises are buried or when they died??? These two could have had the child, William, who was born in 1819. * Sinclair- name of a Newcomerstown Pioneer Family(As in Vane Sinclair Scott) also from 1801-1820 Jesse Wise 11-18-1818 to Julia Ann Kingley* BALT CO. --------------60DD2112CA475A91E5C9FF25--

Hello: I just found a copy of my great great grandfathers obituary (Edward H. Wise d. March 18, 1932). It said he was a descendant in the sixth generation from the Rev. John Wise of Essex, MA. Does anyone have information regarding Rev. John Wise of Essex, MA? Also, it lists the following relatives: Mr. and Mrs. Doughty of Swamscott, Mass, nephew and niece, and Mrs. Alfred Wise, a sister-in-law, Mrs. John Fattig, a niece, and Mr. and Mrs. Charles Wise, nephew and niece, all of Gloucester, Mass., were among those present at the funeral. If anyone has any information regarding any of those listed, please e-mail me. Thank you. Tracy

When did this George Wise die and where?

There is a government page online called NAIL genealogical Data. To go to it I just put that in the search. The address is http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail/nailgen.html There is information on some Wise women in Kansas who had not completed their immigration. Also a Wise family who were seminole indian. and some Ar. Wises and a few others. This a really big site and all kinds of info is offered for passengerships and many other things. you just keep clicking on whatever interest you. Some free others not. Bertha Wise

I don't know where George was from in Maryland . I only know that on his son William's 1880 Ohio census it states that his father(George) was born in Maryland as was his mother. I don't know her name. This George Wise had to have been in Ohio by 1820 when his son William was born because the same census report states that William was born in Ohio. George died and is buried in Tuscarawas County, Ohio in 1875. His tombstone inscription states he was 85 years old which means he was born in Maryland in 1790. Of course, these records are not exactly accurate and may be of slightly. Mitch Wise