I am looking for the parents of John Adam WISE (b. 1842 d. 1923 Norfolk VA) married to Louise SECRIST (b. 1842 d. 1918). Thanks Terry Vanderslice jtvandersl@aol.com

Mary WISE b. 13 Aug. 1786 d. 22 Feb 1819, d. & bur. in Boonsbora, MD. Marr. to Solomon RITZ 17 Oct 1808 in Washington Co., MD. Need her parents and any infor. about her and family. Carolyn at the email address of: DavidOF@wesnet.com

The real bible for passenger lists is the PILI, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, which is now up to 20 volumes, each like a NY City phone directory. The first volume appearded in 1982 and a new addendum is added yearly. It is arranged alphabetically by surname and given name, and almost any roster of passengers or immigrants to US or Canada that ever appeared anywhere has been incorporated. Most of the older lists from colonial era were included in the early volumes. As new lists are identified they get added to later volumes. It is now up to about 3,000,000 names. To do a complete job you have to work your way thru all of the volumes looking up the surname you are interested in. Keep in mind that PILI is only an index, but it does list basic information such as ship name, year and port of entry. For more information you have to find the source list that it refers you to. In some cases this may not be that easy. All lists are available somewhere, but you may need to get to a pretty good library to find a particular one. John Polk Havre de Grace, MD

May 9, 1928 / Obituary in NEWCOMERSTOWN, OHIO NEWS: SAMUEL I. WISE DIES IN MISSOURI Samuel I. Wise, 84, whose recent death was mentioned briefly in these colmns last week, was a son of the late William and Mary Wise, and was born January 11, 1844, near Newcomerstown where he grew to manhood. In 1861 he enlisted in the 125th Ohio Volunteers and served four years until he was wounded and honorably discharged. He was married to Miss Sarah Norris in April 1872, who preceded him in death January 21, 1921. Five children were born to them. He left Ohio in 1881 and moved with his family to a farm near Ottumwa, Iowa; from which place he moved to Caldwell county, Missouri, in 1886. Came to Cameron in 1918, where he lived until he peacefully passed awat April 3, 1928. For the last two years he was a great sufferer from rheumatism. He bore his suffering with fortitude and patience. He was married December 25, 1923 to Mrs. May Wood who survives him. Besides his wife he leaves one sister, Mrs. Sadie DeLong of Vincennes, Indiana, four children, Mrs. McCoy Umstottt, H.E. and C.E. Wise of Cameron, and Mrs. Mary Howerton of Creal Springs, Illinois. One daughter, Lulu Lois, died in infancy. There are also four grandchildren. http://web.tusco.net/wisenct/ mitchlwise@tusco.net

OCCUPATION: PA Railroad Lived: Coshocton Military: Civil War June 16, 1900 / U.S. CENSUS: >Born: February 14, 1843 / OH (age 58). >Married: 29 years. >Occupation: Day Laborer. >Can read, write, speak English. >House (does not state if rented or owned). October 27, 1920 / Obituary in NEWCOMERSTOWN NEWS: OLD VETERAN DIES William T. Wise, veteran of the Civil War, died Thursday, October 21 at 9 p.m. at the home of his son Roy Wise, E. State Street., this city at the age of 77 years, 8 months and [ ] days. Death resulted from heart trouble and came without a moment's warning. He had lived in Coshocton for several years, but was brought here to the home of his son, F.W. Wise, some weeks ago, when his health began to fail. Mr. Wise was born in Tuscarawas county February 14, 1843. He enlisted at the beginning of the Civil War and served until the end. He was a member of the 32nd Inf. O.V.V.I. Shortly after his return home he was united in marriage to Almira Delong who died several years ago. To this union seven children were born, of whom but three survive, Mrs. Cora Hinds of Portland, Oregon, Frank W. and Roy Wise of this city. He also leaves one brother, Samuel Wise of Mirabile, Missouri, and two sisters, Mrs. John Renfrow of Ottumwa, Iowa, and Mrs. Sarah Delong of Vincennes, Indiana. He was an employ of the Pennsylvania Railroad for many years until his health failed. At the time of his death he was serving as Jr. Vice Com. of Coshocton Post G.A.R. Funeral services were conducted at the home of his son on E. State Street Sunday afternoon by Rev. L.C. Momberg. Burial was made under the direction of the G.A.R. and Sons of Veterans. http://web.tusco.net/wisenct/ mitchlwise@tusco.net

I've checked out this site and I think it has the potential to be a gold mine. Happy Hunting, Frank Wise [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] Researching WISE, BLEVENS, BITNER, LASLEY, SANDS, NOBLETT, GRAY Sylvester J. Wise where are you? -----Original Message----- From: owner-ks-kin-l@raven.cc.ukans.edu [mailto:owner-ks-kin-l@raven.cc.ukans.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Scott Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 19:48 To: 'KS-KIN-L@ukans.edu' Subject: Announcing Immigrant Ships Transcribers Site This is to advise you that a new website is being developed by a group called THE IMMIGRANT SHIPS TRANSCRIBERS GUILD. This is a group of over 100 volunteers who have decided to transcribe NARA microfilmed passenger lists so that everyone on the internet can have free access to such lists. In addition, the GUILD is receiving donations of lists which have already been transcribed from people on the internet and from webmasters. The GUILD is also preparing links to many sites dealing with ships and passengers lists throughout the world. As of this date, there have been over 50 lists transcribed by volunteers, another 100 in the works, 100 lists donated to the site, and many sites agreeing to link their ships and sites. If you have a transcribed list you would like like to donate, you can contact Joan Rasanen, Resource Coordinator at Joaras@aol.com giving her the name of the ship, the ports of departure and arrival as well as the dates of each , and your e-mail address. http://iigs.rootsweb.com/immships/index1.html Thank you SUSAN SCOTT

Dear Mitchell: I very much appreciate the lookup and can wait. Thank you. Joan Rogers -----Original Message----- From: WISE-D-request@rootsweb.com <WISE-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: WISE-D@rootsweb.com <WISE-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 5:32 AM Subject: WISE-D Digest V98 #118

Hope this of interrest to the list Trudy Subject: Re: augustus wise Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:24:13 -0600 From: lenawise@juno.com (mary a wise) To: tmessick@freewwweb.com The book entitled, THE WISE KIN NOW and THEN is a 81/2 by 11 in. 350 page hardback book that wil be off the press real soon. It contains information , pictures, maps, wills, and deeds about hundreds of descendants of Joseph Wise' four sons who came to the area of Coffee County in the early 1820s. Many of them are living in the S.E. part of Alabama today, but some are living in other parts of the U.S. I am a descendant of McKinney Wise. The other three sons were Daniel, Herren and Levy. I searched for this information for over twenties years. I visited many of the kin in their homes, by telephone and letter. I visited many cemeteries; reviewed church records; visited state archives in Montgomery, Alabama; Atlanta, Georgia; and Raleigh, North Carolina. I did research in the genealogy department of several libraries, and four or five county court houses. If you are interested in this book, you can get more information by calling 1-334-792-2381, or writing to my address: Mary Agnes Wise, 1310 Choctaw Street, Dothan, Alabama 36303. If you want a book as soon as I receive them, send $48.95 to my address.

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D79129FE3ED65F6FEA487119 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hope this is of interest to the list Trudy --------------D79129FE3ED65F6FEA487119 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (m15.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.192]) by mx2.freewwweb.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA9459946 for <tmessick@freewwweb.com>; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:17:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lenawise@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DSHVTYX5; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:14:28 EST To: tmessick@freewwweb.com Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:24:13 -0600 Subject: Re: augustus wise Message-ID: <19981026.142417.-477715.0.lenawise@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 12-13 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lenawise@juno.com (mary a wise) The book entitled, THE WISE KIN NOW and THEN is a 81/2 by 11 in. 350 page hardback book that wil be off the press real soon. It contains information , pictures, maps, wills, and deeds about hundreds of descendants of Joseph Wise' four sons who came to the area of Coffee County in the early 1820s. Many of them are living in the S.E. part of Alabama today, but some are living in other parts of the U.S. I am a descendant of McKinney Wise. The other three sons were Daniel, Herren and Levy. I searched for this information for over twenties years. I visited many of the kin in their homes, by telephone and letter. I visited many cemeteries; reviewed church records; visited state archives in Montgomery, Alabama; Atlanta, Georgia; and Raleigh, North Carolina. I did research in the genealogy department of several libraries, and four or five county court houses. If you are interested in this book, you can get more information by calling 1-334-792-2381, or writing to my address: Mary Agnes Wise, 1310 Choctaw Street, Dothan, Alabama 36303. If you want a book as soon as I receive them, send $48.95 to my address. --------------D79129FE3ED65F6FEA487119--

Land Purchases before 1840 in Ohio at http://web.tusco.net/wisenct/wiseearlyohioland.htm mitch wise

Does this book have Lydia Wise from VA who married Nathaniel Spears in 1753? Nathaniel came from England where he was born in 1730. They married in VA and moved to Marlboro Co., SC and she had four children. After Nathaniel died in 1763 Lydia Wise married George Trawick. Linda Spears Bussler

I've just began my search on the Wise side of my family. I'll ask my grandpa this weekend if he remembers a Delia Wise Palmer. Wendy ---------- >From: Kirk and/or Lyn Dean <klgdean@flash.net> >To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: Wise in Iowa >Date: Tue, Oct 27, 1998, 8:01 PM > >Wendy, >My gg grandmother was Delia Wise, who married William J Palmer in Wise >County, Texas around before 1890. They and the rest of her Wise family >later moved to Oklahoma, according to my grandmother, and I have lost their >trail. Do they show up in your Oklahoma Wise family? > >Thanks > >Kirk Dean > >At 12:36 PM 10/27/98 -0600, you wrote: >>Mitchell, >>Where is your Oklahoma connection? My great grandmother was Mary Lois Wise. >> She married Joe Warren in Nov. 1898 in Lamar County, TX. My grandfather >>J.E. Warren was born in Blossom, TX. They later moved to Soper, Oklahoma. >>According to grandpa, they are buried in the Sugar Creek Cemetery, north of >>Soper. Soper is located near Hugo, OK in S.E. Oklahoma. >> >>An interesting thing to note, my grandpa says her father was "Will Wise". >>Does that correlate with your research? >> >>Wendy > > >

Wise Connection in Oklahoma is recent (1960's) Sorry:( Kirk and/or Lyn Dean wrote: > Wendy, > My gg grandmother was Delia Wise, who married William J Palmer in Wise > County, Texas around before 1890. They and the rest of her Wise family > later moved to Oklahoma, according to my grandmother, and I have lost their > trail. Do they show up in your Oklahoma Wise family? > > Thanks > > Kirk Dean > > At 12:36 PM 10/27/98 -0600, you wrote: > >Mitchell, > >Where is your Oklahoma connection? My great grandmother was Mary Lois Wise. > > She married Joe Warren in Nov. 1898 in Lamar County, TX. My grandfather > >J.E. Warren was born in Blossom, TX. They later moved to Soper, Oklahoma. > >According to grandpa, they are buried in the Sugar Creek Cemetery, north of > >Soper. Soper is located near Hugo, OK in S.E. Oklahoma. > > > >An interesting thing to note, my grandpa says her father was "Will Wise". > >Does that correlate with your research? > > > >Wendy

Wendy, My gg grandmother was Delia Wise, who married William J Palmer in Wise County, Texas around before 1890. They and the rest of her Wise family later moved to Oklahoma, according to my grandmother, and I have lost their trail. Do they show up in your Oklahoma Wise family? Thanks Kirk Dean At 12:36 PM 10/27/98 -0600, you wrote: >Mitchell, >Where is your Oklahoma connection? My great grandmother was Mary Lois Wise. > She married Joe Warren in Nov. 1898 in Lamar County, TX. My grandfather >J.E. Warren was born in Blossom, TX. They later moved to Soper, Oklahoma. >According to grandpa, they are buried in the Sugar Creek Cemetery, north of >Soper. Soper is located near Hugo, OK in S.E. Oklahoma. > >An interesting thing to note, my grandpa says her father was "Will Wise". >Does that correlate with your research? > >Wendy

Will do but It will take some time OK? mitch Joan Rogers wrote: > Dear Mitchell: > > Could you lookup in the book, the Maryland Heads Of Families, 1790, the > following surnames: > > Wise > Mattingly > Medley > > Thank you, Joan Rogers

I'm looking for information on Sylvester J. WISE (b. abt 1850 possibly OH) married to Hattie LASLEY (b abt 1851). They lived near Chetopa, Labette Co. KS and had five children there: Inez Blanche (1882) Francis Lee (1884) Florence Jessie (1887) George W. (1889) If you have any information to share, I would very much like to talk with you. Happy Hunting, Frank Wise [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] Researching WISE, BLEVENS, BITNER, LASLEY, SANDS, NOBLETT, GRAY Sylvester J. Wise where are you?

Dear Mitchell: Could you lookup in the book, the Maryland Heads Of Families, 1790, the following surnames: Wise Mattingly Medley Thank you, Joan Rogers

Dear Mitchell and List Members: I was informed of this email list for telephone numbers. You can lookup anyone anywhere in the United States. It can help you determine if you might have relatives still living in an area! http://www.theultimates.com/ Hope it helps. Joan Rogers

I saw a reference to Solomon WISE on the Wise Family Forum: http://genforum.com/wise. Happy Hunting, Frank Wise [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] Researching WISE, BLEVENS, BITNER, LASLEY, SANDS, NOBLETT, GRAY Sylvester J. Wise where are you? -----Original Message----- From: Brian J. Wise [mailto:patriotwise@sprintmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 26, 1998 11:26 To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: George Wise I also have a George WISE b. May 5, 1832 and d. March 15, 1903 in Green Twp., Indiana Co., PA. Married to Frances NICEWONGER on April 10, 1856. I don't know where he was born. HELP! Also I know his father was Solomon WISE b. 1802 and d. Sept 27, 1882 in Green Twp., Indiana Co., PA. Married to Elizabeth HILDEBRAND. Does anyone have any information on Solomon WISE or his ancestors? Brian J. WISE at patriotwise@sprintmail.com -----Original Message----- From: KDWise1@aol.com <KDWise1@aol.com> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, October 25, 1998 3:27 PM Subject: Re: George Wise >Dear Mitchell: > > This may be another George Wise to eliminate from your list because >his date of birth does not match the George you listed, but I thought I would >throw it out there so you can eliminate this one. My George was born 4/6/1810 >in Middletown, Maryland. His parents were Philip Wise and Barbara Becker and >he was alive at the time of his father's death abt 1823, however, I know >nothing else about him. I cannot find any record about him after 1823. >Kevin D. Wise > >

My uncle lives in Elgin, Ok. it is a very recent connection with OK!!(1960's) Wendy J. Lucas wrote: > Mitchell, > Where is your Oklahoma connection? My great grandmother was Mary Lois Wise. > She married Joe Warren in Nov. 1898 in Lamar County, TX. My grandfather > J.E. Warren was born in Blossom, TX. They later moved to Soper, Oklahoma. > According to grandpa, they are buried in the Sugar Creek Cemetery, north of > Soper. Soper is located near Hugo, OK in S.E. Oklahoma. > > An interesting thing to note, my grandpa says her father was "Will Wise". > Does that correlate with your research? > > Wendy > > ---------- > >From: "Mitchell L. Wise" <mitchlwise@tusco.net> > >To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Wise in Iowa > >Date: Tue, Oct 27, 1998, 11:01 AM > > > > >Harvey, > >Ever heard of the Dotts Family?? > >here is the Whole Story--- > > > >THE IOWA CONNECTION > > > > My name is Mitchell Wise. I live and have spent most of my life in > >Ohio, > >particularly Tuscarawas County, in the Village of Newcomerstown. I am 40 > >years > >old, having been born in 1958. > > I knew growing up as a kid that I had some close relatives living > >in Oklahoma, > >but not until my recent research into my family's geneology did I > >discover I had an > >"Iowa Connection". > > My great-great grandfather, William T. Wise was a private in the > >32nd Ohio > >Volunteer Infantry Division. William T. had a difficult military career. > >He was > >taken prisoner of war in 1862, had his gun explode in his face in 1863, > >and was shot > >in the left leg just above the left knee at the seige of Atlanta in > >1864. > > After returning from the war in 1865, William T.'s trouble may have > >only just > >begun.While working for the railroad in 1875, a small sliver of iron > >from a rail he > >was cutting lodged in his left eye. This eye would be removed within the > >next few > >years leaving him with only the sight of his right eye which was > >affected by the gun > >exploding in 1863. > > William T. , the father of five children, still worked for the > >railroad though his > >eyesight made it very difficult.He was drawing a pension of $6.00 per > >month from > >the army for the gun shot wound, but needing more he tried (without > >success) to get > >addition pension money for his right eye. > > A special examiner was sent to the area to obtain depositions from > >family, friends, > >neighbors, employers, and doctors as to the condition of William T. > >before he went > >into the Army and his condition upon returning. From these handwritten > >depositions > >we have learned a tremendous amount about William T.'s life before, > >during, and > >after the Civil War. > > William T. gave his deposition February 16th,1892. In it he states: > > > >"After my discharge, I was at home for two months but did no work. In > >September '65 > >I went to Eddyville, Wapello County, Iowa and drove team for Phillip > >Dotts (or Dutts), > >a coal dealer and farmer to the march of 1867. I boarded with Dotts > >(Dutts). I knew > >Hiram (Shoben?), farmer, Ira Brown, laborer, Samuel (Crow?), laborer, > >and others > >which names I cannot give. I had the (billions?) fever soon after I went > >there and a > >doctor from Eddyville treated me for it, I can't give his name, I was at > >Dotts' at the > >time. I came home in the spring of 1867 and ...." > > > > Annie M. Wise, William T.'s older sister also added this > >information in her > >deposition: > > > >"I think he (William T.) stopped at Eddyville, Iowa with our uncle > >George Wise, now > >dead. Don't know how long he was there, nor can I tell whether he was at > >work > >then.Thomas Dotts (Dutts), our uncle lives at Eddyville." > > > > The special investigator taking the deposition spelled "Dutts" as > >you see here but > >the handwriting on William T.s deposition makes it unclear and a I am > >unsure of the > >correct spelling. > > William T.'s brother, Samuel I. Wise also fought in the Civil War > >and after he > >returned home in 1865 to Ohio, he married Sarah Norris and began his > >family. > >Samuel died in 1928 in Missouri and his obituary contained this Iowa > >connection: > > > >" moved his family of five children and his first wife, Sarah Norris > >(from Ohio) to a > >farm near Ottumwa, Iowa in 1881" > > > > Samuel and his family left Iowa five years later and moved to > >Caldwell County, > >Missouri and later he was living in Cameron when he died. Samuel and > >Sarah were > >married in 1872 so when they left Iowa in 1886 their oldest child was > >probably not > >yet thirteen years old so I suspect all of his children left Iowa with > >him. > > Checking the road atlas, I discovered Ottumwa and Eddyville are > >only separated > >by 20 miles of Iowa farm land. > > Another twist to this story is a man named Elias Kendall, William > >T. and > >Samuel's Mother's brother, their uncle.The 1860 Ohio census for > >Tuscarawas > >County, Jefferson Township, has a 41 year old laborer named Elias > >Kendall > >boarding on a farm owned by Thomas Dotts. Mr. Dotts, age 56, also has an > >18 year > >old son named Thomas B. Dotts. > > We know William T. returned to Ohio and Samuel went on to > >Missouri. The > >George Wise mentioned may have returned to Ohio with William T. or he > >may have > >been living there before William arrived and stayed there when he left. > > There is a George Wise buried in Bethel Cemetery, Salem Township, > >Tuscarawas > >County, Ohio along side three of William T. and Samuel's siblings, but > >he died in > >1875 at the age of 84. If this is the same George Wise that was in Iowa, > >he would > >have been in his late 70's while doing this traveling. > > My best guess is the George Wise that was in Iowa is William T.'s > >father's > >brother, his uncle and the George Wise buried in Ohio is William T.'s > >grandfather. > > The Dotts family on the other hand could be related to William T.'s > >mother's side > >of the family. At this point that is unclear. But is is very clear that > >the Wise family in > >Ohio has an "Iowa Connection". > > > >Anyone having any interest, information, or question about this story is > >encouraged > >to contact me at (614)-498-4562. Or write to > > > >Mitchell L. Wise > >335 N. College St. > >Newcomerstown, Ohio 43832 > > > >E-mail - mitchlwise@tusco.net > > > > > > > >