LINDALYLE@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Beverly and Bobbie, > You have a bunch of us curious now. Could you possible post the line of > BENJAMIN > WISE of North Carolina and his 3 sons - Josiah, James, and William C.(Culley). > We are just trying to see if our James Wise b1781 SC could be related. He may > have been in Marion SC in 1810. Does the name Ambrose appear in your family? > Linda All Right you Guys,,,, I have a lost ancestor also...Enoch G. Wise b. 1798 SC? He was an 'early' pioneer of Tennessee, and moved on to Illinois, Randolph County, and by 1850 was in Carroll County, Arkansas, close to the Missouri line. I have some of his children, one of which was Thomas b. 1824 TN., he was my gg grandfather. I have researched this line for years and have not found a link to any of the Carolina Wises, but know he belongs in there somewhere. Known sons of Enoch...William, Thomas, Robert R and possibly Stephen. I could sure use some help. Enoch's wife was Elizabeth b. 1790 according to the 1850 Census for Carroll County, AR. I did get a piece of information recently that states her maiden name was Barrett. Again, I can use some help. I believe the G. in his name is for George. (no proof). Janet Wise Eiskina

I have a James Wise who married Ruth Warren, b. 1760, Ruth, and m. 6-Feb.-1780 in Johnston Co., N.C.. That is all the info I have on them at all and have been searching for them for a long. I do not know who James Wises' parents were nor anything else about him, # of children, etc.. Ruth Warren was the sister of Isaiah, Elijah and George Warren. I have the Warren genealogy on them but that is all on the Wise's. I have looked high and low for these folks. Could my James Wise, possibly be one of your Wises'? Thanks for any and all help you could give me. Thanks again, Learry L. Warren, Dunn, Harnett Co., N.C... My wife grew up in New Orleans, La... At 11:45 AM 11/20/98 EST, you wrote: >Dot, > >Re your posted reply to BCSterling, I did not know that James Wise had 17 or >so children. Are you speaking of the James Wise that was the son of BENJAMIN >WISE of North Carolina? Benjamin had 3 sons - Josiah, James, and William C. >(Culley). I believe that I am descended from that James and that the Frank E. >Wise who has done all that North Carolina research is decended from Josiah. > >Does anyone posting on WISE have direct contact with Frank E. Wise or is close >family? > >bmccay@aol.com >

Hi Beverly and Bobbie, You have a bunch of us curious now. Could you possible post the line of BENJAMIN WISE of North Carolina and his 3 sons - Josiah, James, and William C.(Culley). We are just trying to see if our James Wise b1781 SC could be related. He may have been in Marion SC in 1810. Does the name Ambrose appear in your family? Linda

Dot, Re your posted reply to BCSterling, I did not know that James Wise had 17 or so children. Are you speaking of the James Wise that was the son of BENJAMIN WISE of North Carolina? Benjamin had 3 sons - Josiah, James, and William C. (Culley). I believe that I am descended from that James and that the Frank E. Wise who has done all that North Carolina research is decended from Josiah. Does anyone posting on WISE have direct contact with Frank E. Wise or is close family? bmccay@aol.com

Dot and Bobbie, I live in Sherwood, Arkansas,(a surburb of Little Rock). I am also descended from the lineage that Frank E. Wise has researched back to BENJAMIN WISE of North Carolina who was b. about 1755 (or is it about 1772?) . He is in the 1790 Meckenburg County NC census. If you ever find anything more about Benjamin, please let me know. I have the information that Frank E. Wise published in 1990. Beverly McCay bmccay@aol.com bmccay@bigfoot.com

Dot, I live in Dubberly - outside of Minden in Webster Parish. My line goes back to Benjamin Wise of NC b. abt. 1755. We are related to the line Frank Wise has researched - I've seen his name a lot. No one seems to be able to get anything further back than this on our Wise line. Good Luck :) Bobbie

Benjamin Wise married first in Rowan Co., NC and in 1780s in Rutherford Co., NC. I have researched him some to see if there is any connection to our Frederick Wise of Lincoln Co., NC but have not found any although many have tried to make it so. Likewise some in my family have tried to attach themselves in some relationship to Benjamin. Just thought this note might help.... Lorena WISE-L-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Dot, I live in Dubberly - outside of Minden in Webster Parish. My line goes back to Benjamin Wise of NC b. abt. 1755. We are related to the line Frank Wise has researched - I've seen his name a lot. No one seems to be able to get anything further back than this on our Wise line. Good Luck :) Bobbie ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail

Oops - I forgot I was replying to WISE-L@rootsweb.com instead of directly to BCSterling@aol.com. So, for the rest of you, Also, Bobby, we're pretty sure of some FORD connections - one of my ancestors was Joseph Ford WISE and one cousin born about the turn of the last century identified the wife of James WISE (Joseph Ford's father) as a FORD (doesn't seem to be true -- we've apparently proven his only wife was Permelia MILLER). There were also some FORD families in Colquitt (near Haynesville, LA) when I was growing up. Dot dotwirth@aol.com In a message dated 98-11-18 19:36:44 EST, you write: << Subj: Re: Joseph WISE - Claiborne Parish, LA Date: 98-11-18 19:36:44 EST From: BCSterling@aol.com Reply-to: WISE-L@rootsweb.com To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com Dot, I do not have Joseph Wise or Carolina Ford in my database, but my Wise's are from Caddo Parish and the surrounding area. I do have a Ninevah Nelson Ford and Rosa Ellen Ford and of course, a lot of Wise's. The main reason I am writing is I live about 2 miles west of the Claiborne Parish line. Do you need assistance with a look up? I can't promise when I can do it, but I would be glad to as time allows. Bobbie :) >>

In a message dated 98-11-18 19:36:44 EST, you write: << The main reason I am writing is I live about 2 miles west of the Claiborne Parish line. Do you need assistance with a look up? I can't promise when I can do it, but I would be glad to as time allows. >> I'll bite -- exactly where DO you live? I'm not as familiar with the geography of the west side of the Claiborne Parish line as I am the east. I lived in Colquitt (on the northeast corner of Claiborne Parish) and attended school in Haynesville from 1955 until I graduated from high school in 1960. My parents, Cortez and Bernice Wise, still live in Colquitt in a house which has been extensively remodeled since my grandfather was born in it back in 1895. Thanks for writing. Keep in touch. I'll just bet you're related to one of the 17 or so children of James Wise or one of his brother's children. How far back do you have your line? Dot

Dear Sandy, The Soloman you have listed could possibly be my gr.gr.gr. grandfather. Do you have any more information on him? Please forward to patriotwise@sprintmail.com . Thanks Brian J. Wise -----Original Message----- From: Sandy & Scott Skipper <sws@cyberg8t.com> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 9:04 PM Subject: Re: George Wise son of Adam >Mitch, > >It seems that we are part of the same family. George b. Nov. 13, 1791, >Washington Co, Pa, m. Margaret Ulery, Oct. 1814?, d. Oct 9, 1872, >Marshall Co., Ill, buried in Wenona Cemetery, Wenona, Ill. > >My family is through David, George's (1791) older bother. There are >eight children, Elizabeth, David, Samuel, George, Frederick, Rebecca, >Joseph and Soloman. I have the Adam Wise Genealogy back to Germany. > >Would love to hear from you. > >Sandy Wise Skipper > >

Dot, I do not have Joseph Wise or Carolina Ford in my database, but my Wise's are from Caddo Parish and the surrounding area. I do have a Ninevah Nelson Ford and Rosa Ellen Ford and of course, a lot of Wise's. The main reason I am writing is I live about 2 miles west of the Claiborne Parish line. Do you need assistance with a look up? I can't promise when I can do it, but I would be glad to as time allows. Bobbie :) <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/bcsterling/FAMILYTREEHOUSE.HTML"> FamilyTreeHouse</A>

Census: 1830 (Claiborne Parish, LA) Joseph WISE: male 20-25, 2 males<5, 1 female<5, 1 female 15-20. Our Joseph Ford Wise would have been 17, his wife, Harriet Carolina, only 10 based on their ages 50 years later in 1880. Plus they weren't married yet. Census: 1840, Claiborne Parish, LA, Joseph WISE: 1 m under 5; 1 m 40-50; 1 f under 5; 1 f 15-20; no slaves. (Although Lambright book would say this is Joseph Ford and Carolina, the man is still too old.) These do not appear to be the same person and neither can be Joseph Ford WISE m. Harriet Carolina LAMBRIGHT. Does anyone have their notes on these census entries? Did I enter them correctly? If they are correct and neither of them are J. F. and Carolina WISE, has anyone found them on the 1840 census? Maybe still in Copiah Co., Mississippi where they married in 1838? Dot Wise Wirth dotwirth@aol.com

Sandy, Does this mean your George died in Illinois or just his wife?? George b. Nov. 13, 1791, Washington Co, Pa, m. Margaret Ulery, Oct. 1814?, d. Oct 9, 1872, Marshall Co., Ill, buried in Wenona Cemetery, Wenona, Ill. My George died in Ohio 7-1-1875 but I don't know anything about his wife. Mitch Wise

Sandy, I don't have a confirmed fact that my George is the same one you have but the birthdate is very close--within 14 months. My George was supposedly born in Maryland. Still diggin' Mitch Wise

Mitch, It seems that we are part of the same family. George b. Nov. 13, 1791, Washington Co, Pa, m. Margaret Ulery, Oct. 1814?, d. Oct 9, 1872, Marshall Co., Ill, buried in Wenona Cemetery, Wenona, Ill. My family is through David, George's (1791) older bother. There are eight children, Elizabeth, David, Samuel, George, Frederick, Rebecca, Joseph and Soloman. I have the Adam Wise Genealogy back to Germany. Would love to hear from you. Sandy Wise Skipper

Lorena, I don't think my Wises are even connected. I found the book in a little library in eastern Oklahoma and bought it on the spot because my gr grandmother, Ruah Setser and her family were all listed there. I can't imagine all the work you did to do that book, but I do appreciate it. I love it. The Wises were just icing on the cake just in case. Bertha Wise

Joan, Your GeorgeWise (son of Adam) was born Abt. 1780. I was inquiring about another George, oddly enough is also the son of an Adam Wise. This George was born November 13, 1791 in Washington PA. . He was the son of Adam Wise and Barbara Zollars Wise. I'm running out of George Wises in Maryland and now have started on PA.:) Actually, I came across this George Wise's info at Ancestry.Com and his birthdate is very close to my George Wise. This Adam Wise is actually Adam Wise II and his father Adam Sr. was born in Germany in 1718. I do have a census report that states that my George was born in Maryland but I thought I'd check this one out anyway because of the birthdate. Sorry for the confusion. Mitch

At 06:07 PM 11/16/98 PST, you wrote: >Looking for the descendants of Frederick Wise b. before 1730 d. ca 1809 >Lincoln Co., NC. Sons John, Henry, and Jacob remained in the area. Daughters >Maria Claira m. Philip Coulter and Barbara m. Thomas Rhyne did likewise. > >Daughter Maria Elizabetha (Marillis) disappeared from records and nothing more >is known about her. Son David moved to Cape Girardeau Co., MO ca 1810 and his >children moved into Pike, Greene, Macoupin, and Calhoun Co., IL. > >Son George moved to Buncombe Co., NC where he died before the 1830 census and >his children moved into GA, SE TN and westward.. > >John had son Daniel who moved to Chester Co. SC. son George who moved to >Indiana according to court records, but is disputed by some researchers who >say he moved to Blount Co., AL. Henry's son John R. moved to Buncombe Co., NC >where he appears on the 1850-60 census. > >Would like to hear from anyone concerned with these families as their records >are needed for a Frederick Wise Family History now well underway. > >Thanks, >Lorena >There are several pages of information in a book called German speaking People west of the Catawba River in North Carolina 1750-1800 written by Lorena Shell Eaker on what looks like your family. If you haven't seen it or can't get it through interlibrary loan, send me your snail mail and I will make some copies for you. bwise@oklahoma.net Bertha Wise > > >____________________________________________________________________ >More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail > > >

Dear Mitch: George Wise was the son of Adam Wise of St. Mary's County. Again, George Wise was my great-great-great grandfather. I have the line back to Richard Wise back to the 1690's, and the family through my line down to the present. What information would you like? Joan -----Original Message----- From: WISE-D-request@rootsweb.com <WISE-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: WISE-D@rootsweb.com <WISE-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 7:31 PM Subject: WISE-D Digest V98 #132

sue, Do you have any children for George. All I know is Charles Avery Wise was born in Ohio. He married and had a son in Cabell Co W.V. in 1902. Amy