Dear Tracy, Thanks much for the info. you sent on Mary WISE m. to Israel BARNES, and their parents. Have you researched any further, by chance. Do you know if this Josepf WISE is the Joseph d. 1`2 SEP 1684 and m. Mary THOMPSON? I surely hops so, as that means I was just off by one generation, and can hook Mary back up to the line I thought she belonged to. Thanks again, Betty Sullivan

Thanks. I will keep this message handy so I will remember as well. You are so kind to do look-ups. Dick > -----Original Message----- > From: rhoese [SMTP:rhoese@interconnect.net] > Sent: Friday, March 12, 1999 12:40 PM > To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: "Wise Book" > > Dick, It is I who has the book, not Pat I have it packed in my travel > trailer and will look up when I get back, in ab out a week. Remind me if > you don't hear. Ruth > -----Original Message----- > From: HURLEY, RICHARD <rehurle@lrsdadm.lrsd.k12.ar.us> > To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Friday, March 12, 1999 6:51 AM > Subject: RE: "Wise Book" > > > >Pat, I will order the Wise book, but can't wait to find out if there is > >mention of Mary Wise, born abt 1822 in North Carolina and married Doctor > >James Hurley. Would you please do a look-up for me? Mary and Doctor (his > >first name, not occupation) married and lived in Brown County, Indiana. > >Thank you, > >Dick Hurley > >Little Rock, AR > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: rhoese [SMTP:rhoese@interconnect.net] > >> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 4:27 PM > >> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: "Wise Book" > >> > >> To All, > >> The Wise book I am referring to is "The Adam Wise Family", it is > >> antecedents > >> and descendants of Adam Wise, who immigrated in 1748. It was compiled > by > >> Kathryn Swim Cummings and Rachel Hayward. I think copies are still > >> available > >> for $45. Write Kathryn Cummings at P.O. Box 681798, Park City, UT > >> 84068-1798 > >> if you are interested in a copy. I have done look ups on most of the > >> names > >> mentioned in this list and have notified anyone who has had a match, I > do > >> not expect to find any of the English or Scot Wise families in their as > it > >> is a German line, started out in Maryland, moved to PA and thence to > VA, > >> WVA, OH KY and other parts West and South. So do not know of any in > the > >> NY > >> NJ or New England states that connect early on, it could have happened > >> later, as you all families are everywhere by now. I have put some of > the > >> queries in my newsletter as they came up. It will be sent out next > week. > >> I'll let all know if anyone responds with some answers. I do not find > >> William Hunter Wise, although there are William H Wise's, all seem born > in > >> PA and OH at the wrong time for yours. I have the Sylvester Wise query > in > >> the newsletter because it sounds plausible it is of that line and I > have > >> several readers in KS, hope something comes of it. Ruth > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Pat Grove <pattimae@inreach.com> > >> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 4:01 PM > >> Subject: Re: "Wise Book" > >> > >> > >> >I also have never heard of the Wise Book, would like to get a copy. I > am > >> >looking for William Hunter Wise, born 8-24-1811 in North Carolina, > have > >> >traced him to Gallatin, IL then to Allen Co, Kansas, but sure would > like > >> >some information as where in NC he was born. Would he happen to be in > the > >> >book? If not thanks anyway. > >> > Pat > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: Barbara Volker <bgvolker@worldnet.att.net> > >> >To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> > >> >Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 1:29 PM > >> >Subject: Re: "Wise Book" > >> > > >> > > >> >>This is the first I have heard of a Wise Book. Who put it together > and > >> is > >> >>there a way to get a copy? I'm another Wise descendant trying to > find > >> my > >> >>great grandfather Sylvester J. Wise and his ancestors. Is he in that > >> book? > >> >> > >> >>Barbara Volker > >> >> > >> >>Researching: WISE, GOBLE, CROWDER, BROWN, LASLEY, RENNELS, JAMESON, > >> NEEL, > >> >>AIKIN, WALKER, HOWELL > >> >> > >> >>-----Original Message----- > >> >>From: rhoese <rhoese@interconnect.net> > >> >>To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> > >> >>Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 5:54 AM > >> >>Subject: Re: Barney Wise - Oklahoma > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>>I have not been able to find a Barney Wise in the Wise book. There > is > >> a > >> >>>Burney Stanton Wise b 1855 Porter Co IN, married Melissa A McAlister > >> 1891, > >> >>>no place of marriage or death is given, This Burney died 1922. He is > >> >listed > >> >>>in the index as both Burney and Barney but in the text is says > Burney. > >> >>There > >> >>>is also a Lewis J Wise who was having children starting in 1849, he > was > >> >>born > >> >>>and died in Ohio, had a child Homer b 1879 who died at the age of 20 > in > >> >>>Ohio. So the names were associated with that family but I cannot > find > >> a > >> >>>connection with them to yours. Ruth > >> >>>-----Original Message----- > >> >>>From: JSWOOLERY@aol.com <JSWOOLERY@aol.com> > >> >>>To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> > >> >>>Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 4:26 PM > >> >>>Subject: Barney Wise - Oklahoma > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>>>Looking for info re: Barney Wise, my ggrandfather. Know nothing > >> about > >> >>him > >> >>>>except he married Sara Eliza Mayes about 1895...their son Lewis > Homer > >> >Wise > >> >>>was > >> >>>>born April 2, 1896 in Dustin, Indian Territory, Oklahoma. Barney > died > >> >>>>sometime before 1920. No other known information. Any help would > be > >> >>>>appreciated. > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >

I'm trying to find my Mary Wise, my 3rd great grandmother. She married John H Paul 24 Feb 1825 in Craven Co, North Carolina. They moved to Orange Co, North Carolina and had 13 children. I have information about the PAUL side but know nothing about the WISE side. Happy to share .................... thanks Steve ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Steve Paul, Springfield, MO. spaul@dialnet.net Searching for: Jeffers - Paul - Land - Cummings - Pogue Wise - Clayton - Huff - Maxfield - Metcalf - Bradley - Kinney Grisham - Webb - West - Wisdom

Tracy, I am unfamiliar with AOL. If you don't get help from someone else on our list I will try to find the answer for you. Let me know if you get it solved. Jim Listowner, WISE mailing list At 09:37 AM 3/12/99 EST, you wrote: >Could someone e-mail privately to explain how to open the Digest mode of this >mailing list when it requires downloading. > >I know how to download, but then it is saved in a what looks like a paint or >something like that format. I tried renaming it with a txt extension, but >that doesn't work. I have windows 98. > >Thank you. > >Tracy > >

Seeking any information on a David S. WISE b. 14 Apr 1864 d.? Father: David S. WISE Sr. b. 01 Oct 1840 d. 02 Jul 1889. Mother: Rebecka GUSHART b. 14 Jul 1840 d. 02 Jul 1911. Family orginated in Ephrata, Lancaster, Pa. then to Mogadore,Portage, Ohio. David moved to Ft. Pierce, Fla. sometime after 1900's. David had 14 brothers and sisters. Any info appreciated. E.B.

Dick, It is I who has the book, not Pat I have it packed in my travel trailer and will look up when I get back, in ab out a week. Remind me if you don't hear. Ruth -----Original Message----- From: HURLEY, RICHARD <rehurle@lrsdadm.lrsd.k12.ar.us> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, March 12, 1999 6:51 AM Subject: RE: "Wise Book" >Pat, I will order the Wise book, but can't wait to find out if there is >mention of Mary Wise, born abt 1822 in North Carolina and married Doctor >James Hurley. Would you please do a look-up for me? Mary and Doctor (his >first name, not occupation) married and lived in Brown County, Indiana. >Thank you, >Dick Hurley >Little Rock, AR > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rhoese [SMTP:rhoese@interconnect.net] >> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 4:27 PM >> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: "Wise Book" >> >> To All, >> The Wise book I am referring to is "The Adam Wise Family", it is >> antecedents >> and descendants of Adam Wise, who immigrated in 1748. It was compiled by >> Kathryn Swim Cummings and Rachel Hayward. I think copies are still >> available >> for $45. Write Kathryn Cummings at P.O. Box 681798, Park City, UT >> 84068-1798 >> if you are interested in a copy. I have done look ups on most of the >> names >> mentioned in this list and have notified anyone who has had a match, I do >> not expect to find any of the English or Scot Wise families in their as it >> is a German line, started out in Maryland, moved to PA and thence to VA, >> WVA, OH KY and other parts West and South. So do not know of any in the >> NY >> NJ or New England states that connect early on, it could have happened >> later, as you all families are everywhere by now. I have put some of the >> queries in my newsletter as they came up. It will be sent out next week. >> I'll let all know if anyone responds with some answers. I do not find >> William Hunter Wise, although there are William H Wise's, all seem born in >> PA and OH at the wrong time for yours. I have the Sylvester Wise query in >> the newsletter because it sounds plausible it is of that line and I have >> several readers in KS, hope something comes of it. Ruth >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pat Grove <pattimae@inreach.com> >> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 4:01 PM >> Subject: Re: "Wise Book" >> >> >> >I also have never heard of the Wise Book, would like to get a copy. I am >> >looking for William Hunter Wise, born 8-24-1811 in North Carolina, have >> >traced him to Gallatin, IL then to Allen Co, Kansas, but sure would like >> >some information as where in NC he was born. Would he happen to be in the >> >book? If not thanks anyway. >> > Pat >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Barbara Volker <bgvolker@worldnet.att.net> >> >To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> >> >Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 1:29 PM >> >Subject: Re: "Wise Book" >> > >> > >> >>This is the first I have heard of a Wise Book. Who put it together and >> is >> >>there a way to get a copy? I'm another Wise descendant trying to find >> my >> >>great grandfather Sylvester J. Wise and his ancestors. Is he in that >> book? >> >> >> >>Barbara Volker >> >> >> >>Researching: WISE, GOBLE, CROWDER, BROWN, LASLEY, RENNELS, JAMESON, >> NEEL, >> >>AIKIN, WALKER, HOWELL >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >>From: rhoese <rhoese@interconnect.net> >> >>To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> >> >>Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 5:54 AM >> >>Subject: Re: Barney Wise - Oklahoma >> >> >> >> >> >>>I have not been able to find a Barney Wise in the Wise book. There is >> a >> >>>Burney Stanton Wise b 1855 Porter Co IN, married Melissa A McAlister >> 1891, >> >>>no place of marriage or death is given, This Burney died 1922. He is >> >listed >> >>>in the index as both Burney and Barney but in the text is says Burney. >> >>There >> >>>is also a Lewis J Wise who was having children starting in 1849, he was >> >>born >> >>>and died in Ohio, had a child Homer b 1879 who died at the age of 20 in >> >>>Ohio. So the names were associated with that family but I cannot find >> a >> >>>connection with them to yours. Ruth >> >>>-----Original Message----- >> >>>From: JSWOOLERY@aol.com <JSWOOLERY@aol.com> >> >>>To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> >> >>>Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 4:26 PM >> >>>Subject: Barney Wise - Oklahoma >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>Looking for info re: Barney Wise, my ggrandfather. Know nothing >> about >> >>him >> >>>>except he married Sara Eliza Mayes about 1895...their son Lewis Homer >> >Wise >> >>>was >> >>>>born April 2, 1896 in Dustin, Indian Territory, Oklahoma. Barney died >> >>>>sometime before 1920. No other known information. Any help would be >> >>>>appreciated. >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >

CATHERINE M. WISE Born Between 1807/1808 She married Charles Strayline according to bible record on Jan. 11, 1827 in Philadelphia, PA. He Charles Strayline had abandoned Catherine between 1851-1854 in 1864 when she applied for a pension from the death of Theodore in the civil war [72nd PA infantry Gettysburg] she had not heard from or seen Charles in over two years she received a pension of eight dollars a month commencing on July 3, 1863. According to pension records in April of 1864 she was 56 years old [April is not a birth month its when she made a sworn affidavit] at this time she was living at #6 Edwin Street in Philadelphia, PA. She could not write used an X on the pension forms and had witness's who signed saying who she was. Any information on her or who her parents were would be appreciated. Mason mhem@bellsouth.net

Excuse me for sending this through the mailing list, but I didn't know who the listowner was. I am unable to receive the last forwarding of WISE-D. My computer does not recognize the extension .mim. The computer claims that .mim is non existence. If this is how all Digest forwardings are going to be, then I will have to withdraw. It would make no sense for me to be on a mailing list that I cannot access. I was hoping to get information on my WISE family.

Pat, I will order the Wise book, but can't wait to find out if there is mention of Mary Wise, born abt 1822 in North Carolina and married Doctor James Hurley. Would you please do a look-up for me? Mary and Doctor (his first name, not occupation) married and lived in Brown County, Indiana. Thank you, Dick Hurley Little Rock, AR > -----Original Message----- > From: rhoese [SMTP:rhoese@interconnect.net] > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 4:27 PM > To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: "Wise Book" > > To All, > The Wise book I am referring to is "The Adam Wise Family", it is > antecedents > and descendants of Adam Wise, who immigrated in 1748. It was compiled by > Kathryn Swim Cummings and Rachel Hayward. I think copies are still > available > for $45. Write Kathryn Cummings at P.O. Box 681798, Park City, UT > 84068-1798 > if you are interested in a copy. I have done look ups on most of the > names > mentioned in this list and have notified anyone who has had a match, I do > not expect to find any of the English or Scot Wise families in their as it > is a German line, started out in Maryland, moved to PA and thence to VA, > WVA, OH KY and other parts West and South. So do not know of any in the > NY > NJ or New England states that connect early on, it could have happened > later, as you all families are everywhere by now. I have put some of the > queries in my newsletter as they came up. It will be sent out next week. > I'll let all know if anyone responds with some answers. I do not find > William Hunter Wise, although there are William H Wise's, all seem born in > PA and OH at the wrong time for yours. I have the Sylvester Wise query in > the newsletter because it sounds plausible it is of that line and I have > several readers in KS, hope something comes of it. Ruth > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Grove <pattimae@inreach.com> > To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 4:01 PM > Subject: Re: "Wise Book" > > > >I also have never heard of the Wise Book, would like to get a copy. I am > >looking for William Hunter Wise, born 8-24-1811 in North Carolina, have > >traced him to Gallatin, IL then to Allen Co, Kansas, but sure would like > >some information as where in NC he was born. Would he happen to be in the > >book? If not thanks anyway. > > Pat > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Barbara Volker <bgvolker@worldnet.att.net> > >To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> > >Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 1:29 PM > >Subject: Re: "Wise Book" > > > > > >>This is the first I have heard of a Wise Book. Who put it together and > is > >>there a way to get a copy? I'm another Wise descendant trying to find > my > >>great grandfather Sylvester J. Wise and his ancestors. Is he in that > book? > >> > >>Barbara Volker > >> > >>Researching: WISE, GOBLE, CROWDER, BROWN, LASLEY, RENNELS, JAMESON, > NEEL, > >>AIKIN, WALKER, HOWELL > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: rhoese <rhoese@interconnect.net> > >>To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> > >>Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 5:54 AM > >>Subject: Re: Barney Wise - Oklahoma > >> > >> > >>>I have not been able to find a Barney Wise in the Wise book. There is > a > >>>Burney Stanton Wise b 1855 Porter Co IN, married Melissa A McAlister > 1891, > >>>no place of marriage or death is given, This Burney died 1922. He is > >listed > >>>in the index as both Burney and Barney but in the text is says Burney. > >>There > >>>is also a Lewis J Wise who was having children starting in 1849, he was > >>born > >>>and died in Ohio, had a child Homer b 1879 who died at the age of 20 in > >>>Ohio. So the names were associated with that family but I cannot find > a > >>>connection with them to yours. Ruth > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: JSWOOLERY@aol.com <JSWOOLERY@aol.com> > >>>To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> > >>>Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 4:26 PM > >>>Subject: Barney Wise - Oklahoma > >>> > >>> > >>>>Looking for info re: Barney Wise, my ggrandfather. Know nothing > about > >>him > >>>>except he married Sara Eliza Mayes about 1895...their son Lewis Homer > >Wise > >>>was > >>>>born April 2, 1896 in Dustin, Indian Territory, Oklahoma. Barney died > >>>>sometime before 1920. No other known information. Any help would be > >>>>appreciated. > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > >

Could someone e-mail privately to explain how to open the Digest mode of this mailing list when it requires downloading. I know how to download, but then it is saved in a what looks like a paint or something like that format. I tried renaming it with a txt extension, but that doesn't work. I have windows 98. Thank you. Tracy

At 11:05 PM 3/10/99 -0500, you wrote: >Please, where did or does this Wise family originate or live? > I'm sorry---I forgot to metion that---This family is from Lebanon, IL.

At 04:28 PM 3/11/99 -0600, you wrote: >Is there a digest form for this list? 3. How to change to digest mode (several postings are combined and sent to you together as a single large message). There are two steps. First, send the command "unsubscribe" to WISE-L-request@rootsweb.com to discontinue mail mode. Second, send the command "subscribe" to WISE-D-request@rootsweb.com to start receiving digests.

unsubscribe. -----Original Message----- From: Fred Wise <wise@go-concepts.com> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 5:03 PM Subject: Re: WISE-D Digest V99 #26 >unsubscribe > >-----Original Message----- >From: TCT222@aol.com <TCT222@aol.com> >To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 2:37 PM >Subject: Re: WISE-D Digest V99 #26 > > >>In a message dated 3/11/99 11:26:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, WISE-D- >>request@rootsweb.com writes: >> >>> This is my first message to the WISE List. For a long time, I have had >>> Mercy WISE b. 21 MAY 1685, Essex, MA, d.7 FEB 1771, m. 31 DEC 1707, at >>> Middletown, CT. to Israel BARNES. >>> I believe she is the dau of Henry WISE, but there are several Henrys, >>> and I'm not sure which one would be her father. Would he be Henry, b. >>> 1654, m. Mary MANSFIELD? >> >>Betty: >>This is what I have: >> >>WISE, Henry b: March 01, 1654/55 in Roxbury, Suffolk, MA, USA d: Abt. June >11, >>1684 in Guilford, New Haven, CT >> +MANSFIELD, Mary b: April 06, 1658 d: Abt. 1712 m: Abt. 1680 in Guilford, >>New Haven, CT, USA >> >> >>NEGHS vol.11 page 330, Roxbury Births >> >>Henry sonne of Joseph Wise borne 1:1:54 (March 1, 1655) >>***** >>Genealogies of CT. Families Vol II, p. 471 >> >>Children >> >>Sarah, m. _____WRIGHT >>Mary, d. aft 1756;m. Dec. 31, 1707, Israel BARNES of New Haven. He was >born >> April 22, 1680 and died 1751. >> >>***** >>Genealogies of CT. Families Vol II, p. 470-1 >> >>Mary Mansfield, daughter of Joseph Mansfield and Mary Potter. >> >>In the New Haven County Court record (vol 1, p. 210), her married name is >>given as Tirhan, a variant for Turhand. The only man in the vicinity >bearing >>this uncommon name, who could be her husband was Thomas Tirhan of Guilford, >>CT, who died in 1696, leaving a widow Mary and children Henry, Samuel, and >>Abigail (New Haven County Court Records, vol I, p. 241). But Mary had been >>married before, as administration on the estate of Henry Wise of Guilford, >>deceased, was granted, 11 June 1684, to his widow Mary (County Court >Records, >>Vol 1, p. 147), and in June 1686, there is further record of this estate, >>mentioning the widow Mary, Thomas Terhan present husband to the relict. and >>two children, unnamed (County Court Records, Vol1, p. 160). >> >>She married thirdly, John Hill of New Haven as his second wife in Aug. >1703. >> >>In 1712, administration on the estate of mary Hill of New Haven, deceased, >was >>granted to Henry Turhand of Wallingford; and the estate was distributed to >her >>son Henry, daughter Mary wife of Israel Barnes, and the heirs of her >daughter >>Sarah Wright, deceased (New Haven Probate Records, vol.4, pp 55, 89) >> >>Children by Henry Wise: >> >>Sarah Wise, d. bef 1703, m. _____ Wright, >>Mary Wise, d. aft 1756, m. 31 Dec. 1707, Israel Barnes of New Haven. He >was >> born 22 Apr. 1680, d. 1751 >> >>Children by Thomas Turhand/Tirhand >> >>Henry Turhand, of Wallingford, m. 7 Nov 1712, Elizabeth Merriman, b. 4 May, >> 1693. >>Samuel Turhand, not named in the distribution of his mother's estate. >>Abigail Turhand, not named in the distribution of her mother's estate. >>***** >>Hope this helps. >> >>Tracy

Is there a digest form for this list? I will be gone for about a week and want to keep up but am afraid if I don't get all my lists in digest my box will fill up. If I unsubscribe for a week can I find the back messages on the web page? Ruth

To All, The Wise book I am referring to is "The Adam Wise Family", it is antecedents and descendants of Adam Wise, who immigrated in 1748. It was compiled by Kathryn Swim Cummings and Rachel Hayward. I think copies are still available for $45. Write Kathryn Cummings at P.O. Box 681798, Park City, UT 84068-1798 if you are interested in a copy. I have done look ups on most of the names mentioned in this list and have notified anyone who has had a match, I do not expect to find any of the English or Scot Wise families in their as it is a German line, started out in Maryland, moved to PA and thence to VA, WVA, OH KY and other parts West and South. So do not know of any in the NY NJ or New England states that connect early on, it could have happened later, as you all families are everywhere by now. I have put some of the queries in my newsletter as they came up. It will be sent out next week. I'll let all know if anyone responds with some answers. I do not find William Hunter Wise, although there are William H Wise's, all seem born in PA and OH at the wrong time for yours. I have the Sylvester Wise query in the newsletter because it sounds plausible it is of that line and I have several readers in KS, hope something comes of it. Ruth -----Original Message----- From: Pat Grove <pattimae@inreach.com> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 4:01 PM Subject: Re: "Wise Book" >I also have never heard of the Wise Book, would like to get a copy. I am >looking for William Hunter Wise, born 8-24-1811 in North Carolina, have >traced him to Gallatin, IL then to Allen Co, Kansas, but sure would like >some information as where in NC he was born. Would he happen to be in the >book? If not thanks anyway. > Pat >-----Original Message----- >From: Barbara Volker <bgvolker@worldnet.att.net> >To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 1:29 PM >Subject: Re: "Wise Book" > > >>This is the first I have heard of a Wise Book. Who put it together and is >>there a way to get a copy? I'm another Wise descendant trying to find my >>great grandfather Sylvester J. Wise and his ancestors. Is he in that book? >> >>Barbara Volker >> >>Researching: WISE, GOBLE, CROWDER, BROWN, LASLEY, RENNELS, JAMESON, NEEL, >>AIKIN, WALKER, HOWELL >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: rhoese <rhoese@interconnect.net> >>To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 5:54 AM >>Subject: Re: Barney Wise - Oklahoma >> >> >>>I have not been able to find a Barney Wise in the Wise book. There is a >>>Burney Stanton Wise b 1855 Porter Co IN, married Melissa A McAlister 1891, >>>no place of marriage or death is given, This Burney died 1922. He is >listed >>>in the index as both Burney and Barney but in the text is says Burney. >>There >>>is also a Lewis J Wise who was having children starting in 1849, he was >>born >>>and died in Ohio, had a child Homer b 1879 who died at the age of 20 in >>>Ohio. So the names were associated with that family but I cannot find a >>>connection with them to yours. Ruth >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: JSWOOLERY@aol.com <JSWOOLERY@aol.com> >>>To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 4:26 PM >>>Subject: Barney Wise - Oklahoma >>> >>> >>>>Looking for info re: Barney Wise, my ggrandfather. Know nothing about >>him >>>>except he married Sara Eliza Mayes about 1895...their son Lewis Homer >Wise >>>was >>>>born April 2, 1896 in Dustin, Indian Territory, Oklahoma. Barney died >>>>sometime before 1920. No other known information. Any help would be >>>>appreciated. >>>> >>> >> >> > >

unsubscribe -----Original Message----- From: TCT222@aol.com <TCT222@aol.com> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 2:37 PM Subject: Re: WISE-D Digest V99 #26 >In a message dated 3/11/99 11:26:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, WISE-D- >request@rootsweb.com writes: > >> This is my first message to the WISE List. For a long time, I have had >> Mercy WISE b. 21 MAY 1685, Essex, MA, d.7 FEB 1771, m. 31 DEC 1707, at >> Middletown, CT. to Israel BARNES. >> I believe she is the dau of Henry WISE, but there are several Henrys, >> and I'm not sure which one would be her father. Would he be Henry, b. >> 1654, m. Mary MANSFIELD? > >Betty: >This is what I have: > >WISE, Henry b: March 01, 1654/55 in Roxbury, Suffolk, MA, USA d: Abt. June 11, >1684 in Guilford, New Haven, CT > +MANSFIELD, Mary b: April 06, 1658 d: Abt. 1712 m: Abt. 1680 in Guilford, >New Haven, CT, USA > > >NEGHS vol.11 page 330, Roxbury Births > >Henry sonne of Joseph Wise borne 1:1:54 (March 1, 1655) >***** >Genealogies of CT. Families Vol II, p. 471 > >Children > >Sarah, m. _____WRIGHT >Mary, d. aft 1756;m. Dec. 31, 1707, Israel BARNES of New Haven. He was born > April 22, 1680 and died 1751. > >***** >Genealogies of CT. Families Vol II, p. 470-1 > >Mary Mansfield, daughter of Joseph Mansfield and Mary Potter. > >In the New Haven County Court record (vol 1, p. 210), her married name is >given as Tirhan, a variant for Turhand. The only man in the vicinity bearing >this uncommon name, who could be her husband was Thomas Tirhan of Guilford, >CT, who died in 1696, leaving a widow Mary and children Henry, Samuel, and >Abigail (New Haven County Court Records, vol I, p. 241). But Mary had been >married before, as administration on the estate of Henry Wise of Guilford, >deceased, was granted, 11 June 1684, to his widow Mary (County Court Records, >Vol 1, p. 147), and in June 1686, there is further record of this estate, >mentioning the widow Mary, Thomas Terhan present husband to the relict. and >two children, unnamed (County Court Records, Vol1, p. 160). > >She married thirdly, John Hill of New Haven as his second wife in Aug. 1703. > >In 1712, administration on the estate of mary Hill of New Haven, deceased, was >granted to Henry Turhand of Wallingford; and the estate was distributed to her >son Henry, daughter Mary wife of Israel Barnes, and the heirs of her daughter >Sarah Wright, deceased (New Haven Probate Records, vol.4, pp 55, 89) > >Children by Henry Wise: > >Sarah Wise, d. bef 1703, m. _____ Wright, >Mary Wise, d. aft 1756, m. 31 Dec. 1707, Israel Barnes of New Haven. He was > born 22 Apr. 1680, d. 1751 > >Children by Thomas Turhand/Tirhand > >Henry Turhand, of Wallingford, m. 7 Nov 1712, Elizabeth Merriman, b. 4 May, > 1693. >Samuel Turhand, not named in the distribution of his mother's estate. >Abigail Turhand, not named in the distribution of her mother's estate. >***** >Hope this helps. > >Tracy

I also have never heard of the Wise Book, would like to get a copy. I am looking for William Hunter Wise, born 8-24-1811 in North Carolina, have traced him to Gallatin, IL then to Allen Co, Kansas, but sure would like some information as where in NC he was born. Would he happen to be in the book? If not thanks anyway. Pat -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Volker <bgvolker@worldnet.att.net> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 1:29 PM Subject: Re: "Wise Book" >This is the first I have heard of a Wise Book. Who put it together and is >there a way to get a copy? I'm another Wise descendant trying to find my >great grandfather Sylvester J. Wise and his ancestors. Is he in that book? > >Barbara Volker > >Researching: WISE, GOBLE, CROWDER, BROWN, LASLEY, RENNELS, JAMESON, NEEL, >AIKIN, WALKER, HOWELL > >-----Original Message----- >From: rhoese <rhoese@interconnect.net> >To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 5:54 AM >Subject: Re: Barney Wise - Oklahoma > > >>I have not been able to find a Barney Wise in the Wise book. There is a >>Burney Stanton Wise b 1855 Porter Co IN, married Melissa A McAlister 1891, >>no place of marriage or death is given, This Burney died 1922. He is listed >>in the index as both Burney and Barney but in the text is says Burney. >There >>is also a Lewis J Wise who was having children starting in 1849, he was >born >>and died in Ohio, had a child Homer b 1879 who died at the age of 20 in >>Ohio. So the names were associated with that family but I cannot find a >>connection with them to yours. Ruth >>-----Original Message----- >>From: JSWOOLERY@aol.com <JSWOOLERY@aol.com> >>To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 4:26 PM >>Subject: Barney Wise - Oklahoma >> >> >>>Looking for info re: Barney Wise, my ggrandfather. Know nothing about >him >>>except he married Sara Eliza Mayes about 1895...their son Lewis Homer Wise >>was >>>born April 2, 1896 in Dustin, Indian Territory, Oklahoma. Barney died >>>sometime before 1920. No other known information. Any help would be >>>appreciated. >>> >> > >

This is the first I have heard of a Wise Book. Who put it together and is there a way to get a copy? I'm another Wise descendant trying to find my great grandfather Sylvester J. Wise and his ancestors. Is he in that book? Barbara Volker Researching: WISE, GOBLE, CROWDER, BROWN, LASLEY, RENNELS, JAMESON, NEEL, AIKIN, WALKER, HOWELL -----Original Message----- From: rhoese <rhoese@interconnect.net> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 5:54 AM Subject: Re: Barney Wise - Oklahoma >I have not been able to find a Barney Wise in the Wise book. There is a >Burney Stanton Wise b 1855 Porter Co IN, married Melissa A McAlister 1891, >no place of marriage or death is given, This Burney died 1922. He is listed >in the index as both Burney and Barney but in the text is says Burney. There >is also a Lewis J Wise who was having children starting in 1849, he was born >and died in Ohio, had a child Homer b 1879 who died at the age of 20 in >Ohio. So the names were associated with that family but I cannot find a >connection with them to yours. Ruth >-----Original Message----- >From: JSWOOLERY@aol.com <JSWOOLERY@aol.com> >To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 4:26 PM >Subject: Barney Wise - Oklahoma > > >>Looking for info re: Barney Wise, my ggrandfather. Know nothing about him >>except he married Sara Eliza Mayes about 1895...their son Lewis Homer Wise >was >>born April 2, 1896 in Dustin, Indian Territory, Oklahoma. Barney died >>sometime before 1920. No other known information. Any help would be >>appreciated. >> >

Saw the note re: Henry Wise b March 1, 1654/55 Essex MA. Is there any connection with James Wise ba 1675 Newbury MA. I can't get beyond him! I would appreciate your comments and help. Chris Martin

In a message dated 3/11/99 11:26:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, WISE-D- request@rootsweb.com writes: > This is my first message to the WISE List. For a long time, I have had > Mercy WISE b. 21 MAY 1685, Essex, MA, d.7 FEB 1771, m. 31 DEC 1707, at > Middletown, CT. to Israel BARNES. > I believe she is the dau of Henry WISE, but there are several Henrys, > and I'm not sure which one would be her father. Would he be Henry, b. > 1654, m. Mary MANSFIELD? Betty: This is what I have: WISE, Henry b: March 01, 1654/55 in Roxbury, Suffolk, MA, USA d: Abt. June 11, 1684 in Guilford, New Haven, CT +MANSFIELD, Mary b: April 06, 1658 d: Abt. 1712 m: Abt. 1680 in Guilford, New Haven, CT, USA NEGHS vol.11 page 330, Roxbury Births Henry sonne of Joseph Wise borne 1:1:54 (March 1, 1655) ***** Genealogies of CT. Families Vol II, p. 471 Children Sarah, m. _____WRIGHT Mary, d. aft 1756;m. Dec. 31, 1707, Israel BARNES of New Haven. He was born April 22, 1680 and died 1751. ***** Genealogies of CT. Families Vol II, p. 470-1 Mary Mansfield, daughter of Joseph Mansfield and Mary Potter. In the New Haven County Court record (vol 1, p. 210), her married name is given as Tirhan, a variant for Turhand. The only man in the vicinity bearing this uncommon name, who could be her husband was Thomas Tirhan of Guilford, CT, who died in 1696, leaving a widow Mary and children Henry, Samuel, and Abigail (New Haven County Court Records, vol I, p. 241). But Mary had been married before, as administration on the estate of Henry Wise of Guilford, deceased, was granted, 11 June 1684, to his widow Mary (County Court Records, Vol 1, p. 147), and in June 1686, there is further record of this estate, mentioning the widow Mary, Thomas Terhan present husband to the relict. and two children, unnamed (County Court Records, Vol1, p. 160). She married thirdly, John Hill of New Haven as his second wife in Aug. 1703. In 1712, administration on the estate of mary Hill of New Haven, deceased, was granted to Henry Turhand of Wallingford; and the estate was distributed to her son Henry, daughter Mary wife of Israel Barnes, and the heirs of her daughter Sarah Wright, deceased (New Haven Probate Records, vol.4, pp 55, 89) Children by Henry Wise: Sarah Wise, d. bef 1703, m. _____ Wright, Mary Wise, d. aft 1756, m. 31 Dec. 1707, Israel Barnes of New Haven. He was born 22 Apr. 1680, d. 1751 Children by Thomas Turhand/Tirhand Henry Turhand, of Wallingford, m. 7 Nov 1712, Elizabeth Merriman, b. 4 May, 1693. Samuel Turhand, not named in the distribution of his mother's estate. Abigail Turhand, not named in the distribution of her mother's estate. ***** Hope this helps. Tracy