Tammy, The fact that you know he was born in Germany in 1845 eliminates the line I know most about, the Adam Wise line, so I can help you that much, we know he is NOT of those lines. I have a German g grandfather we are at a brick wall on also, Wacker, Wachter or maybe even Vacher, changed to Walker! So I know your frustration. Good luck. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tamest@aol.com> To: <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 5:56 AM Subject: Re: WISE-D Digest V99 #66 > Ruth, > > I believe the religion was lutheran or catholic, but that came from my great > grandmothers side (the Binders). I do not know what religion the Wise's > were. In 1874 they were in Marshall County, Kansas, in Waterville. I don't > have anymore than what was in the post. I do know that Conrad was born in > 1845 in Galesburg Germany and that the name was changed from Weiss, Wiess, > or Wiesse to Wise. And his family immigrated to America when Conrad was 8 > years old. But have not found anything that would tell me who his parents > were. If you can help any help would be appreciated. > Sincerely, > Tammy Eledge Struebing > >

Ruth, I believe the religion was lutheran or catholic, but that came from my great grandmothers side (the Binders). I do not know what religion the Wise's were. In 1874 they were in Marshall County, Kansas, in Waterville. I don't have anymore than what was in the post. I do know that Conrad was born in 1845 in Galesburg Germany and that the name was changed from Weiss, Wiess, or Wiesse to Wise. And his family immigrated to America when Conrad was 8 years old. But have not found anything that would tell me who his parents were. If you can help any help would be appreciated. Sincerely, Tammy Eledge Struebing

Tammy, I have an 1842 George Andrew Wise born in PA m in Brown KS to Anna Maria Gafford, their children were Charles H. Wise and Mary A. Wise. Where were your Wise family in 1874, do you know? Do you know their religion? George Andrew was born to Rev George Wise a Brethren minister, as were two of his brothers, John and David. If you know of a strong or even faded Brethren or Baptist background then they are probably descendants of the original (in this Wise family) David Wise who had 17 children and was very religious. But we do not have descendants of all his children. You family would be grandchildren probably. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: Tammy R Struebing (by way of Jim Wise <jwise@wvadventures.net>) <TAMEST@hotmail.com> To: <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 10:38 PM Subject: Conrad Wise > Hello List, > > My name is Tammy Eledge Struebing and I am trying to locate my maternal > Great Great Grandfather. His name is Conrad Wise he married Nancy J. > Williams. They had 11 Children those Children are: > > John Wise B. 1874 married Annie ? > James Wise B. 1876 married Tillie ? > Francis Wise B. 1878 died when > young > George Andrew Wise B. 1880 married Anna Binder > Mary Wise B. 1882 married John Binder > Henry Wise B. 1884 married Belle ? > Eunice Wise B. 1886 married Louis Connett > Sarah Wise B. 1888 NEVER MARRIED > Martha Marie Wise B. 1891 NEVER MARRIED > Edward Wise B. 1894 married Nellie ? (twin > of Edwin) > Edwin Wise B. 1894 NEVER MARRIED (twin of > Edward) > William Wise B. 1896 married Catherine Hara > Jefferson Wise B. 1900 married Flora Belle > Stoner > > If anyone has any information on any of the people listed above please email > me at one of the two email addresses below. > Tamest@aol.com or > EledgeFam@hotmail.com > > Sincerely, > > Tammy Eledge Struebing > > >

I have a James Wise born 1827 Bradley County, Tennessee. He was the son of Henry and Margaret ? Wise in Shellyville,Tennesee. I know of only one other child born to Henry and Margaret (Syntha Wise who married Joseph Mack Williams). I think there more children. Do any of these sound familiar? Elaine McDowell Lil Devil wrote: > > At 03:51 PM 5/11/99 EDT, you wrote: > >James Bruce Wise born 8/27/41 Peoria IL Methodist Hospital > >Patricia Wise (unsure of dob or birthplace) > >William Wise (unsure of dob or birthplace) > > > >Blessings, > >Lisa > > > Hi Lisa! > > Was wondering what info you might have on your William WISE. My g g > grandfather was named William, but don't know much more than that. He was > married to Grace Madeline Baum. Any relation? > > Thanks, > > Angel M. Wise, the little Devil [hehe] >:-O > > e-mail : tmpered1@netins.net > ICQ UIN : 19592225 > > Surnames== Father's side: Wise, Redman, Conklin, > Seitz, Dressel, Baum > Mother's side: Conner, Schmiskie, Hewkin > and still searching...

Hello List, My name is Tammy Eledge Struebing and I am trying to locate my maternal Great Great Grandfather. His name is Conrad Wise he married Nancy J. Williams. They had 11 Children those Children are: John Wise B. 1874 married Annie ? James Wise B. 1876 married Tillie ? Francis Wise B. 1878 died when young George Andrew Wise B. 1880 married Anna Binder Mary Wise B. 1882 married John Binder Henry Wise B. 1884 married Belle ? Eunice Wise B. 1886 married Louis Connett Sarah Wise B. 1888 NEVER MARRIED Martha Marie Wise B. 1891 NEVER MARRIED Edward Wise B. 1894 married Nellie ? (twin of Edwin) Edwin Wise B. 1894 NEVER MARRIED (twin of Edward) William Wise B. 1896 married Catherine Hara Jefferson Wise B. 1900 married Flora Belle Stoner If anyone has any information on any of the people listed above please email me at one of the two email addresses below. Tamest@aol.com or EledgeFam@hotmail.com Sincerely, Tammy Eledge Struebing

At 03:51 PM 5/11/99 EDT, you wrote: >James Bruce Wise born 8/27/41 Peoria IL Methodist Hospital >Patricia Wise (unsure of dob or birthplace) >William Wise (unsure of dob or birthplace) > >Blessings, >Lisa > Hi Lisa! Was wondering what info you might have on your William WISE. My g g grandfather was named William, but don't know much more than that. He was married to Grace Madeline Baum. Any relation? Thanks, Angel M. Wise, the little Devil [hehe] >:-O e-mail : tmpered1@netins.net ICQ UIN : 19592225 Surnames== Father's side: Wise, Redman, Conklin, Seitz, Dressel, Baum Mother's side: Conner, Schmiskie, Hewkin and still searching...

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My William Wise unfortunately died when he was 35 or so...James' family was not particularly long lived...James was the eldest and William the youngest...both boys are dead, and no one knows about Patricia. Sorry I couldn't help you more. Lisa

James Bruce Wise born 8/27/41 Peoria IL Methodist Hospital Patricia Wise (unsure of dob or birthplace) William Wise (unsure of dob or birthplace) Father: Leonard Bruce Wise born approx 1910 Knoxville TN Mother: Grandma: Josephine (Jenkins) Wise birthplace Jackson Cty, TN Looking for information on my extended family (grandparents, etc.) Thanks for any and all help. This has been a rather mixed up genealogical search, but I finally got James Wise's birth certificate yesterday. Blessings, Lisa

I AM RESEARCHING JOHN WISE. HE MARRIED JANE MCMILLON AND MOVED TO BELMONT OHIO AROUND 1800. HE HAD 2 CHILDREN JACOB AND GEORGE. IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO PLEASE CONTACT ME. AMY

-----Original Message----- From: Su Link <sulink@zoomnet.net> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 5:48 PM Subject: Re: WISE-D Digest V99 #63 >Hi Mark, I was beginning to think I had dreamed up the name Wise, for no >more info than I can find on them. My aunt lives in Redkey and was a Wise, >but for some reason the families had children late in life and there is >quite a span. We are lucky if we have three generations alive at the same >time. > >My grandfather built the school house N of Redkey when he was young with his >oldest son of my grandmother. He was married three times, grandma Barnell >was the last one. I have dug in books and files and am literally grabbing >at straws on a lot of this. There used to be a Wise-Byrd/Bird reunion in >Albany years ago which both sides attended but everyone is dead that could >have answered my questions. > >I'm bout ready to claim anyone who needs a "family" of sorts. HAHA Any >info would be appreciated. Where do you live now and did you ever live in >mid-IN? Su > >I'm in Jacksonville, Florida(lived here about 5 1/2 years). Originally from Indianapolis--with relatives in Portland, Hartford City, Dunkirk, Redkey etc...This would be the Pascall-Shwier-Wise-Flynn? line. My great-aunt Gwen and her husband Charles Harper lived in Redkey for a number of years. Her father, Grover T. Pascall lived in Dunkirk, but when he got older he went to live with them in Redkey. He is supposed to be in the Redkey cemetary (?) He is not buried on the Dunkirk I.O.O.F cemetary with some of the others. I know what you mean about not having any family members alive to help. Most of my family is gone, has been for years. Well, perhaps we are cousins. :) Perhaps we can help each other. MHurst

Hi Mark, I was beginning to think I had dreamed up the name Wise, for no more info than I can find on them. My aunt lives in Redkey and was a Wise, but for some reason the families had children late in life and there is quite a span. We are lucky if we have three generations alive at the same time. My grandfather built the school house N of Redkey when he was young with his oldest son of my grandmother. He was married three times, grandma Barnell was the last one. I have dug in books and files and am literally grabbing at straws on a lot of this. There used to be a Wise-Byrd/Bird reunion in Albany years ago which both sides attended but everyone is dead that could have answered my questions. I'm bout ready to claim anyone who needs a "family" of sorts. HAHA Any info would be appreciated. Where do you live now and did you ever live in mid-IN? Su

I am trying to verify the origins of Samuel WISE b 1785 in VA, died aft Sept 1865 in Ripley co IN. Wife was Elizabeth ???. Because he named a son Tully R WISE, I believe he was connected to the Accomack co VA Wises. Samuel was in Clermont or Belmont co OH around 1820 with a Charles Wise (he named a son Charles too) and was in Franklin co IN by 1830 and Ripley co by 1850. His sons were William, Tully (Robert), George W, Parker, and Jonathan. I would also like to know where any of the Wises may have been buried. I have looked through all of the cemetery records of Toph and can not find them anywhere. I am also trying to verify where in Ohio they were prior to Franklin co IN (Parker, Tully, William and Charles were born in OH). It would seem they were in Belmont or Clermont co OH. If you would like to exchange information, please contact me. Thanks Pam Shelton-Anderson pshelton1@compuserve.com

My gr,gr, grandfather was Henry H. Wise(1800-1869), and his son's bio says Henry H.' was born in the territory now called Indiana. He was married in Bullitt Co. KY in 1818 and lived in Jefferson Co. and Webster Co., KY where he died. His father is mentioned in the bio as a Rev. war vet from Va., but I haven't found that yet. Do you have any dates to go with the older names? I have a very simple web page at: <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Shores/9291">Frank Melton's Family Files </A> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Shores/9291 Frank Melton frank2835@aol.com

-----Original Message----- From: Su Link <sulink@zoomnet.net> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, May 06, 1999 1:19 PM Subject: Abraham Wise VA-IN b.1822 >Trying to find any information on the following names: >Abraham Wise b-1822 VA. d-1884 Jay Co, IN. >Married Elizabeth Byrd/Bird 1st m-1845 - >Louisa Ryan 2nd. m-1865 >Children: >Eliza?b-1837 (lived with family)? >John Wise b-1846 IN >Elias Holiday Wise b-1848 >Delphina b-1849 >George M. b-1851 >Margaret E. b-1853 >William H. Wise b-1855 >Nedham Rial Wise b-1857 >Martin Lincoln Wise b-1859 (grandfather) >Franklin wise b-1861 >second family: >Charles E. Wise b-1864 >Willis Edward Wise b-1866 >Leo M. Wise b-1868 >Burtie/Robert/Bert? b-1870 >Glenn G. Wise b-1878 >Have old photos - name changed TO Wise after arriving in America. Abraham's >father may >have been John, or Samuel. Abraham lived in Wayne Co. IN and then Jay Co, >IN. Buried >there. >Any info would be so appreciated. > >Hello, allow me to introduce myself. My Name is Mark Hurst and my great-grandmother was Frieda Wise (1895-1943). She is buried in the I.O.O.F. cemetary in Dunkirk, IN (Jay Cty.) I have next to none info on the Wise part of the line. I do know she married Grover T. Pascall and had three children-two survived--my grandmother Dorsa and great-aunt Gwen. She later married a man named Smith (leaving out the sordid details) and died with that name. Perhaps some of your Wises are related to mine? I saw your e-mail and saw Jay cty and had to write. Perhaps we might have info to share? :) Mark

I have a probable clue of sorts to the family of either Jacob Weiss/ Wise of Highspire, Dauphin Co, PA, or his wife, Johanna Susanna. This couple lived in Highspire in 1850 census, where they owned $400 worth of property, which according to the 1875 property map was a sizable piece on the railroad tracks. They died in the 1870's and 1880's and are buried at Highspire Cemetery. Jacob Weiss was born in Switzerland, according to the 1850 census, in 1802, according to his gravestone, and Johanna Susanna was born in Germany, according to the 1850 census, in 1809, according to her gravestone. According to the 1850 census, their first child was born around 1835 in Pennsylvania. They had six children in the 1850 census, including one boy, Jason. Jason was only a year old, so they may have had more children after 1850. Four of the six had distinctly English names. This is very unusual in German immigrants in central Pennsylvania Dutch territory in that time. They used the name Wise as well as Weiss, and Johanna also went by name Joanna. One of the girls is named Barbara Anne, not even the one born in the 1830's, whose name was Sarah Anne. In the same grave plot as Jacob Weiss and Joanna Weiss, buried right next to them, is the grave of Barbara Anne Johnson, b 1813, d 1851, "daughter of Jacob". Johnson would make a strange sort of a transcription error if she was really Barbara Anne Weiss died a year after being listed in the 1850 census! Stranger than the date as 1813. This girl could not have been Jacob Weiss's daughter. She could have been either Jacob's or JOhanna's sister. I do not have a clue at what age either of these people came to this country, or where they married. If born in 1813, she was 38 when she died. Her maiden name may or may not be Johnson. It is odd that she would be described as daughter of Jacob if she was someone's wife. But it also seems as if her presence in the plot with the Weiss's indicates she was buried by people closely connected to the Weiss's, maybe her parents did the gravestone! If Barbara Anne was Jacob Weiss's sister, then their father was named Jacob Weiss/ Wise. If Barbara Anne was Johanna Susanna's sister, and if she was not married, then Johanna Susanna and Barbara Anne were both the children of someone from Germany named Johnson. Since Johnson is n't a German name, and since this family did so much Anglicization, it is more likely the name was originally Johanson or something of the sort, even Johannes! This would be why Johanna Susanna was named Johanna! Does anyone have a Weiss/ Wise family with either Jacob Weiss and Barbara Anna Weiss (m Johnson) the children of Jacob Weiss/ Wise, or else a Johnson/ Johannes/ Johanson family with Johanna Susanna and Barbara Anne as children, and the father named Jacob, in both cases the children born between 1800 and 1815? YOurs, Dora Smith

Trying to find any information on the following names: Abraham Wise b-1822 VA. d-1884 Jay Co, IN. Married Elizabeth Byrd/Bird 1st m-1845 - Louisa Ryan 2nd. m-1865 Children: Eliza?b-1837 (lived with family)? John Wise b-1846 IN Elias Holiday Wise b-1848 Delphina b-1849 George M. b-1851 Margaret E. b-1853 William H. Wise b-1855 Nedham Rial Wise b-1857 Martin Lincoln Wise b-1859 (grandfather) Franklin wise b-1861 second family: Charles E. Wise b-1864 Willis Edward Wise b-1866 Leo M. Wise b-1868 Burtie/Robert/Bert? b-1870 Glenn G. Wise b-1878 Have old photos - name changed TO Wise after arriving in America. Abraham's father may have been John, or Samuel. Abraham lived in Wayne Co. IN and then Jay Co, IN. Buried there. Any info would be so appreciated.

John I should have mentioned - Dare county wasn't formed until 1870 - (first colony in US 1587) It would seem to me they would have started collecting info earlier....I'll see if Currituck county has that info. Robbi -----Original Message----- From: APolk51534@aol.com <APolk51534@aol.com> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 1:21 AM Subject: Re: Lanc will lookups >Thanks for the kind offer. If you have a chance to see if there are any Polks >listed in Wills, either at testator or legatee, prior to Revolutionary War I >would much appreciate it. > >John Polk >Havre de Grace MD > >

Bless your heart ! Do you need anything from Dare County, NC?? you'll be hearing from me again shortly Robbi V -----Original Message----- From: m thompson <fitnesspro@juno.com> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 9:19 PM Subject: Lanc will lookups >Hi all-- >We just moved and are settled >I can do Lancaster County Will Abstract Lookups >Keep in mind you must send lookup as follows: > >TO: <fitnesspro@juno.com> >SUBJ: Lanc Will Lookup >MESSAGE: (Include FULL NAME of lookup) > >I have a copy of a copy but it lists all the wills 1729-1850 >On most it shows the Year, Book, Volume, & Page (no other info) > >Marc > >Seeking parentage (Penna.): >(Mary) Cath STEINER Batdorf (c1780-aft1830 Berks>Daup), Wm FRANTZ >(c1750-1805 Daup), Saml PETERS (c1821-c1870 Daup), Jacob RUDY (c1760-? >Lanc>Daup), MaryAnn SWARTZ Peters (b1820-1897 Jun't>Daup), Cath UMBEHAUER >Wertz (1790-1864 N'land/Lanc) > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >