Dennis, What information do you have on WISE in Butts Co, GA and when? Our James WISE almost had to come through GA although our records seem to indicate no significant stops between Marion Co, SC and Copiah Co, Miss. before their move about 1830 to Claiborne Parish, LA (up on the Arkansas line). At this moment I'd look in Alaska for clues about his parents -- GA sounds much more likely though.... One of his grandsons married Martha Caroline HAYNES from Heard Co. GA, daughter of Benjamin Franklin HAYNES. Dot Wise Wirth dotwirth@aol.com <<This sure sounds like Butts Co., Georgia. These are the same surnames I'm looking for in Butts Co., GA. MADDEN is the other. My group went to Tallapoosa. There's hints of a Louisiana path with the Georgia and Alabama lines.>>

Kuz'n AL, Good find. Kuz'n Ocie Wise Davis of Bloomingdale, Ga. told me that her grandma Louanzie was buried next to Polly Wise (nee: Bird), but I don't recall looking for or finding a headstone to confirm it. Anyway, your findings confirm what Ocie said, so I updated my notes - - and below is what now shakes out on Louanzie (also our kuz'n). I did not know that an index of the WISE Cemetery existed??? Is it very large? If not, could you send me a copy when you get time? If it's too large, where can I purchase a copy? Thanks again for sharing. Kuz'n JOHN F. WISE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ NOTES ON EMILY LOUISE ANNE (LOUANZIE) CRIBBS Born 27 Oct 1848, in Bryan Co., GA. Daughter of ARCHIBALD BRANNICK CRIBBS (c1818-c1879) and his wife CLOAH (CLOIE) ANN FUTCH (1824-c1825), of Bulloch and Bryan Cos., GA. Married 30 Nov 1865 to HENRY WILLIAM WISE (1836-1888), in Bryan Co., GA. Husband was the son of JACOB (JAKE) WISE (1812-1891) and his 1st wife MARY ANN (POLLY) BIRD (1815-1869), of Bulloch and Bryan Cos., GA. After Louanzie died in 1875, HENRY married (2nd) 8 Oct 1876, to Mrs. ANNA (ANNIE) CRIBBS (nee: LEWIS), in Bryan Co., GA. Died 25 May 1875, in Bryan Co., GA. Buried in the WISE CEMETERY (formerly called the Old Backwater Cemetery), near Clyde, Bryan Co., GA. (now on Fort Stewart, GA.). Cousin Ocie Davis (nee: Wise) said that her grandma Louanzie was buried next to Polly Bird Wise, but this compiler does not recall looking for her headstone. [Also, cousin Al Chassereau found where she's buried next to her mother-in-law Polly Wise - - see Email info. below.] REFERENCE: U.S. Census of 1870 and 1880, Bryan Co., GA. REFERENCE: "The Shuman Family Genealogy & Allied Families, 1994, as compiled by EARLINE SHUMAN GEIGER, CAROLYN BARBER, JARRARD, EUNA MAE PRIESTER FUTCH, and ALENE ENGLISH KNAEBEL, pp. 242 and 386. REFERENCE: Information from cousin Al Chassereau, of Savannah, Chatham Co., GA., 27 Mar 1997, and also his Internet Email of 23 May 1999, Subject: Louanzie Wise 1848-1875. RELATIONSHIP: LOUANZIE is a FUTCH 3rd cousin (3-generations removed) of the compiler JOHN FRANCIS WISE (b.1936-NY). Bloodline connection is through her cousin DELILAH (DELLA) FUTCH (c1813-1868). Common ancestor is LOUANZIE's GGG-grandfather ONESIMUS FUTCH Sr. RS-SC (c1735-1831), of NC, SC, and Bulloch Co., GA. RELATIONSHIP: Husband HENRY is a paternal Great-grand uncle of the compiler JOHN FRANCIS WISE (b.1936-NY). Bloodline to HENRY is through his younger brother BASIL (KEBE) WILLIAM WISE (1862-1928), his nephew ROBERT FRANKLIN WISE Sr. (1886-1939), and his grand nephew ROBERT FRANKLIN WISE Jr. (1910-1977), of Bryan and Chatham (Savannah) Cos., GA.; Houston, TX; Minneapolis, MN; St. Petersburg, VA; Williamsburg and Greenpoint Dists., Brooklyn, Kings Co., NY; Sabine and Milam Cos., Texas; and Bell, Los Angeles, CA. Common ancestors are JACOB (JAKE) WISE and MARY ANN (POLLY) BIRD, of Bulloch and Bryan Cos., GA. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: <AChasserea@aol.com> To: <jfwise@mindspring.com>; <bfwgay@frontiernet.net> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 11:13 AM Subject: Louanzie Wise 1848-1875 > I was reviewing a revised index of the Wise Cemetery in Bryan County, GA by > Wyman Mayes and found Louanzie Wise, born October 27, 1848; died May 25, > 1875. She is buried next to Mary Ann Wise, 1st wife of Jacob (Jake) Wise. > > I did not have her in my data base. I assume she is a daughter. She fits > into a space of time that I did not have a child listed but there could have > easily been one. > > Comments? > > Alfred

In a message dated 5/21/99 6:54:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Del.Lewis@worldnet.att.net writes: << I have a Mary Josephine Wise b. 9/2/1874 Hardin Co, KY d. 2/29/1948 McLean Co, KY m. 2/15/1898 to Henry Harlon Pryor b. 9/7/1871 Hart Co, KY d. 3/29/1941 McLean Co, KY. Mary parent's are listed as John Wise and Ellen Border Wise on her death cert, but I cannot locate her parents anywhere. This John and Ellen appear to be the right age. Do you know of any connection? Del W. Lewis >> Del, Don't know of any connection. Best guess on the Arkansas families is a Butts Co., GA connection with some connection in Tallapoosa Co., Alabama. Dennis

I have a Mary Josephine Wise b. 9/2/1874 Hardin Co, KY d. 2/29/1948 McLean Co, KY m. 2/15/1898 to Henry Harlon Pryor b. 9/7/1871 Hart Co, KY d. 3/29/1941 McLean Co, KY. Mary parent's are listed as John Wise and Ellen Border Wise on her death cert, but I cannot locate her parents anywhere. This John and Ellen appear to be the right age. Do you know of any connection? Del W. Lewis -----Original Message----- From: DDover1793@aol.com <DDover1793@aol.com> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, May 20, 1999 10:32 PM Subject: DOVER? >This is 1870 White County, Arkansas census: > >Wise, W. P., 33, m, w, farmer, 114, 0, GA >Nancy C., 29, f, w, housekeeping, GA >John T., 10, m, w, farmer, AL >Sallie A., 4, f, w, AL >Joel H., 1, m, w, AL > >Wise, J. F., 25, m, w, farmer, 240, 0, GA >Ellen, 22, f, w, housekeeping, GA >Floyd, 1, m, w, AL >Emily, 67, f, w, GA > >There is a DOVER family here too but arrived after 1870. Any help on this >WISE family? I suspect they came from Tallapoosa County, Alabama. > >Dennis > >

Try Bullitt Co. or Jefferson Co.,KY. My gr,gr,grandfather, Henry H. Wise, was married in Bullitt Co. in 1818,and moved to Jeferson Co. by 1850, and Webster Co. abt.1853. I am looking for his father, too. There were a few other Wises in Bullitt and Jefferson Co. around 1800, but I cannot connect to any yet. I am looking through my records , and find a John Wise in Mason Co.,1800 Census or Tax List. I don't see your Wises in any notes I have on Bullitt Co., but try Mason and Jefferson Co. Frank Melton

This is 1870 White County, Arkansas census: Wise, W. P., 33, m, w, farmer, 114, 0, GA Nancy C., 29, f, w, housekeeping, GA John T., 10, m, w, farmer, AL Sallie A., 4, f, w, AL Joel H., 1, m, w, AL Wise, J. F., 25, m, w, farmer, 240, 0, GA Ellen, 22, f, w, housekeeping, GA Floyd, 1, m, w, AL Emily, 67, f, w, GA There is a DOVER family here too but arrived after 1870. Any help on this WISE family? I suspect they came from Tallapoosa County, Alabama. Dennis

Dot, This sure sounds like Butts Co., Georgia. These are the same surnames I'm looking for in Butts Co., GA. MADDEN is the other. My group went to Tallapoosa. There's hints of a Louisiana path with the Georgia and Alabama lines. Dennis

Patricia - Got to be a connection between your Samuel HAYNES and my Benjamin Franklin HAYNES whose daughter married Jasper Newton WISE although I haven't found it either. Did you know that a community about 2 miles south of what is now Shongaloo was originally called Wiseville? You might find the following interesting: ".... About "10" of his (James WISE & Permelia MILLER) sons came over to Webster Parish and settled at Wiseville, about two miles south of what is now Shongaloo, Louisiana. One son, J. G. WISE was a doctor, Dover(?) WISE was a preacher, the others were merchants and farmers. The Civil War scattered and took its toll in this family. Two died in service. Dr. G. J. WISE lost his home and slaves while away in war. After returning from fighting, he took his wife and two small children and went over to the present site of Shongaloo, Louisiana and continued practice. At this time, the place was an Indian village, whose highways were cow-trails and deer trails. Later he moved onto a homestead a mile west of town and retired from practice." Sheet obtained from descendant of Giles James WISE, Ralph MILLER, 1991. Benjamin Franklin HAYNES, Jasper Newton WISE and his family remained in the area east of Haynesville. Benjamin F. HAYNES and three of Jasper Newton WISE's children are buried in an almost forgotten cemetery just south of the state line off the road from Haynesville, LA to ElDorado, Arkansas. There were two cemeteries at State Line (aka Mineral Springs), Claiborne Parish, Louisiana, Sec. 6 Twp 23 Range 5 about 2 miles southeast of LA Hwy. #61 at the Arkansas State line. According to "Cemetery Inscriptions of Claiborne Parish, Louisiana Volume III" compiled by Elinor McCalman Seward and Wanda Volentine Head, published by J & W Enterprises, 2838 Jody Lane, Shreveport, Louisiana 71118, these were surveyed on February 16, 1985 with only a few graves located. In one cemetery identified as the State Line Baptist Cemetery, the only marker located was for John M. BROWN 1814-1898. In the other, which they called State Line Methodist Cemetery, they identified three markers. Only one of these was intact in May 1999 when the site was visited by Dot WISE WIRTH and Levelle HAYNES: a four-sided ceramic-coated metal spire with the word WISE on one side and the name of one of three children of Jasper Newton and Martha Caroline HAYNES WISE on each of the other sides: Leona Leoti WISE b. 26 MAY 1879 d. 5 JUL 1884; A. (Alexander) MILO WISE b. 10 MAR 1871 d. 18 OCT 1885; and P. (Philander) Hazellow WISE b. 14 NOV 1873 d. 30 APR 1886. A granite marker for Benjamin F. HAYNES b. 22 - 1817 (father of Martha Caroline) is broken but still at his gravesite about 20 feet north northwest of the WISE marker. The bottom portion of a marker showing the death date of Robert F. HAYNES (4 AUG 1878) along with some other marker fragments is piled with the B. F. HAYNES marker. Apparently the Robert F. HAYNES marker was complete in 1985 as his marker was said to read, Robert F. HAYNES b. 03 SEP 1871 d. 04 AUG 1878. Robert was the son of R. B. HAYNES. As Jasper N. and Mattie WISE were members of the State Line Church which is identified as Baptist and Benj. F. HAYNES was Methodist it seems as if the Baptist and Methodist chose to share a cemetery at State Line just as they did (and do) at Colquitt. <<on 4/13/99, Rontrisha@aol.com wrote to HAYNES-L@rootsweb.com I am the wife of a Samuel HAYNES descendant. ... As previously stated, the town was named after old Sam according to the info the family has handed down and he settled there in about 1855. He sold land in troup Co, Ga in 1854. They settled in Claiborne Parish in a place then called Taylor's Store which was later named Haynesville. They did not remain there but for a year before moving on to around Shongaloo.>>

Here's a puzzle for you:. Harris JOHNSON (age 18, 1850 census, Claiborne Parish, LA) would have been born about 1832. Polly WISE JOHNSON b. 1821 would have been about 29 which means she can't be Harris's mother. Polly can't be a daughter of James & Permelia WISE, but she could be a daughter of James B. and Nancy WISE. 3/17/1998 - Bernice Andrews Wise spoke with a JOHNSON family in Claiborne Parish, LA. The Johnsons have a picture of Polly WISE b. 9 MAR 1812 d. 27 JUN 1874 who married Buck JOHNSON in Mississippi. The Johnsons have a land abstract that shows Polly and Buck receiving 50 acres of land from James WISE before he died. Mrs. Johnson says the only reason they were able to get it was because they were related to James Wise. Polly's birthdate is too close to Jasper N.'s birthday for them to be brother and sister. Possibly Polly was a niece of James WISE. The JOHNSON family has a reunion (3rd Sunday in April) in Morton, Miss on Hwy 80 - just off I-20 - about 30 miles the other side of Jackson going toward Meridian. Marian Crocker Sebastopol. 1850 Census: Evan (Ivan) WISE 20M b MS; wife, Eliza 29F b MS; children, Margaret, Willis, Beda, Parmelia, Catherine; and another person, Harris JOHNSON 18M b? 1850 LA, Claiborne Parish - Census: 107 Jas WISE 67M Planter 3400 SC; Milla 56F, MS; David 18M MS; Gideon 12M MS; Celia A. (WISE) HALL 20F MS; Nancy HALL 3F LA; Samuel HALL 2F LA; John HALL 5/12M LA; John Warren/WARREN 45M Labourer MS 1850 LA, Claiborne Parish - Census: James B. WISE 60M b SC; Nancy A. 41M b SC; Jasper N. age 7; and Benjamin M. DANIEL, age 16. Dot Wise Wirth dotwirth@aol.com

A lot of you will be helped if you subscribe to the Brethren list. I think there has been some discussion of Bitners on it. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: The Wise Family <Macmhuirich@email.msn.com> To: <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 10:25 PM Subject: RE: WISE-D Digest V99 #68 > Juanita, > > My Bitners came to IN from PA. There is a lass, Jo Faltysek at > mailto:natlite@codenet.net who is researching TN Bitners. I have four John > Bitners in my database, but not much info on any of them. None of them from > TN...that I know of. Let me know what you find out. > > Happy Hunting, > > Frank W. Wise [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] > > Researching WISE, BLEVENS, BITNER, LASLEY, SANDS, NOBLETT, GRAY > My wife, Nancy's lines are: STOFFER, WEBBER, BOYNTON, OWEN, LUTHY, FAGAN > Sylvester J. Wise where are you? > =================================== > Visit our WISE family website at http://geocities.com/heartland/fields/4363/ > Distant Cousin Genealogy: http://distantcousin.com > ICQ #8931206 > > -----Original Message----- > From: JuanitaWS@aol.com [mailto:JuanitaWS@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 8:46 AM > To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: WISE-D Digest V99 #68 > > > In a message dated 99-05-17 20:29:14 EDT, you write: > > << [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] >> > Frank: Saw your posting on the WISE website and I wish I could tie in > Geo. Adam with someone but just can't find anyone. I think it's interesting > that I am also researching Bitner in Rush Co. IN. John (Jacob) Bitner and > family came from Wautaga Tn area in l830s. Any connections? Juanita Wise > Santos > > >

Juanita, My Bitners came to IN from PA. There is a lass, Jo Faltysek at mailto:natlite@codenet.net who is researching TN Bitners. I have four John Bitners in my database, but not much info on any of them. None of them from TN...that I know of. Let me know what you find out. Happy Hunting, Frank W. Wise [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] Researching WISE, BLEVENS, BITNER, LASLEY, SANDS, NOBLETT, GRAY My wife, Nancy's lines are: STOFFER, WEBBER, BOYNTON, OWEN, LUTHY, FAGAN Sylvester J. Wise where are you? =================================== Visit our WISE family website at http://geocities.com/heartland/fields/4363/ Distant Cousin Genealogy: http://distantcousin.com ICQ #8931206 -----Original Message----- From: JuanitaWS@aol.com [mailto:JuanitaWS@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 8:46 AM To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: WISE-D Digest V99 #68 In a message dated 99-05-17 20:29:14 EDT, you write: << [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] >> Frank: Saw your posting on the WISE website and I wish I could tie in Geo. Adam with someone but just can't find anyone. I think it's interesting that I am also researching Bitner in Rush Co. IN. John (Jacob) Bitner and family came from Wautaga Tn area in l830s. Any connections? Juanita Wise Santos

My WISE ancestor is Isaac Wise, generation 4 in the report below. Isaac has been a stumbling block, for we have been unable to determine who his parents were. This genealogy, without supporting documentation was passed on to me. Several on this list have posted information that mentions some of the names in this list. I would like to know if anyone has information linking Isaac Wise to parents FREDERICK WISE and ELIZABETH BURSON. Also, I've had some correspondence with others who suggest that Isaac's wife was not Elizabeth McCollough, but Elizabeth, or Mary Elizabeth Lemon. Isaac and Elizabeth moved to Jackson Co., WV 1850-55 and later on to Wirt Co. WV. Elizabeth died in Wirt Co., WV and Isaac in Meigs Co., OH. I will provide more information on Isaac Wise and family if anyone requests it. Hoping for a connection, Jimmie Barnes Homosassa, FL Descendants of John Adam Wise Generation No. 1 1. JOHN ADAM1 WISE was born 1718 in Hesse Darnstadt, and died Unknown. He married (1) CATHERINE Abt. 1748. He married (2) UNKNOWN Abt. 1765. Children of JOHN WISE and CATHERINE are: i. ANDREW2 WISE, b. May 07, 1748; d. March 04, 1840; m. ZERUAH HARTMAN. 2. ii. PETER WISE, b. Unknown; d. Unknown. 3. iii. FREDERICK WISE, b. Unknown; d. Unknown. iv. HENERY WISE, b. Unknown, Maryland; d. Unknown. 4. v. ADAM WISE, b. April 05, 1763, Maryland; d. July 15, 1842, Pennsylvania - Wise Cemetary. Children of JOHN WISE and UNKNOWN are: vi. JACOB2 WISE. vii. DANIEL WISE. viii. ABRAHAM WISE. ix. TOBIAS WISE. x. MARY WISE. xi. MARY ANN WISE. xii. ULIAN WISE. xiii. JUDITH WISE, m. REV. JOHN SPOHN. Generation No. 2 2. PETER2 WISE (JOHN ADAM1) was born Unknown, and died Unknown. He married MARY MILLER. Children of PETER WISE and MARY MILLER are: i. ANDREW3 WISE. ii. HANNAH WISE, b. Unknown; d. Unknown; m. JACOB ZOLLARS. 3. FREDERICK2 WISE (JOHN ADAM1) was born Unknown, and died Unknown. He married UNKNOWN. Children of FREDERICK WISE and UNKNOWN are: i. HENERY3 WISE. ii. CATHERINE WISE, b. Unknown; d. Unknown; m. JESSE BUMGARNER. iii. JACOB WISE. 4. ADAM2 WISE (JOHN ADAM1) was born April 05, 1763 in Maryland, and died July 15, 1842 in Pennsylvania - Wise Cemetary. He married BARBARA ZOLLARS. Children of ADAM WISE and BARBARA ZOLLARS are: i. ELIZABETH3 WISE, b. May 08, 1785; m. JACOB SHIDLER. ii. DAVID WISE, b. March 08, 1787; d. Unknown; m. (1) ESTHER SHIDLER; m. (2) RACHEL GARRET. iii. SAMUEL WISE, b. August 10, 1789; d. Unknown; m. ??? SHIDLER. iv. GEORGE WISE, b. November 13, 1791; d. Unknown; m. MARGARET UHLERY. 5. v. FREDERICK WISE, b. September 02, 1793; d. February 14, 1846, Pennsylvania - Wise Cemetary. vi. REBECCA WISE, b. November 20, 1795; m. PETER CRUMRINE. vii. JOSEPH WISE, b. May 22, 1797; d. April 20, 1863; m. (1) PERMELIA BARNARD; m. (2) JULIA WELCH. viii. SOLOMAN WISE, b. May 16, 1799; d. Unknown; m. (1) PERMELIA ALEXANDER; m. (2) JANE ALEXANDER. Generation No. 3 5. FREDERICK3 WISE (ADAM2, JOHN ADAM1) was born September 02, 1793, and died February 14, 1846 in Pennsylvania - Wise Cemetary. He married ELIZABETH BURSON. Child of FREDERICK WISE and ELIZABETH BURSON is: 6. i. ISSAC4 WISE, b. March 12, 1817; d. 1904. Generation No. 4 6. ISSAC4 WISE (FREDERICK3, ADAM2, JOHN ADAM1) was born March 12, 1817, and died 1904. He married ELIZABETH MCCULLOUGH. Children of ISSAC WISE and ELIZABETH MCCULLOUGH are: i. GEORGE WASHINGTON5 WISE, b. May 12, 1840. ii. DOROTHY WISE, b. August 22, 1841. iii. JAMES MARION WISE, b. December 23, 1844. iv. THOMAS WISE, b. April 18, 1847. v. TIMOTHY WISE, b. April 03, 1848. vi. MARGARET JANE WISE, b. May 01, 1851. vii. MARY ANN WISE, b. June 21, 1853; m. JOHN BLAKE, August 16, 1868. viii. MARY ELIZABETH WISE, b. September 08, 1855; m. EDWIN B. HENDRICK, May 13, 1871. ix. JOHN NELSON WISE, b. November 13, 1857; m. MINERVA E.. x. HENRY E WISE, b. March 27, 1861; m. NANCY HALL. xi. LOUISE CAROLINE WISE, b. March 27, 1861. 7. xii. WILLIAM ISSAC WISE, b. May 15, 1862; d. May 1929. xiii. SAMUEL SHELTON WISE, b. May 1865; m. NELLE BELL MILLER, July 19, 1913.

In a message dated 99-05-17 20:29:14 EDT, you write: << [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] >> Frank: Saw your posting on the WISE website and I wish I could tie in Geo. Adam with someone but just can't find anyone. I think it's interesting that I am also researching Bitner in Rush Co. IN. John (Jacob) Bitner and family came from Wautaga Tn area in l830s. Any connections? Juanita Wise Santos

It is definitely not this George Wise. The ones I am sending mail on are documented to be descendants of Adam Wise who came over from Germany in 1748, he changed his name to Wise when he signed the oath of allegiance when he got off the boat. The allegiance of course was to the King of England as he was coming to colony of that country. I wish I knew more about the later arrivals but I don't. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: The Wise Family <Macmhuirich@email.msn.com> To: <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 5:00 PM Subject: RE: George & Myrtle Wise > Ruth, > > I was looking thru past email and came across the following, think they're > the same George Adam?: > > From: JuanitaWS@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 3:10 PM > To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Weis, George Adam > > GGGrandfather, George Adam Weis immigrated from Wurms, Hesse-Darmstadt in > l850s with family, specifically, brothers. He appears in Ft.Wayne, In and > then settles in Huntington, IN. I would like to know who his parents and > siblings were and if there are other descendents of this family. He > changed > his name to Wise in l862. Thank you. Juanita Wise Santos > > Happy Hunting, > > Frank W. Wise [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] > > Researching WISE, BLEVENS, BITNER, LASLEY, SANDS, NOBLETT, GRAY > My wife, Nancy's lines are: STOFFER, WEBBER, BOYNTON, OWEN, LUTHY, FAGAN > Sylvester J. Wise where are you? > =================================== > Visit our WISE family website at http://geocities.com/heartland/fields/4363/ > Distant Cousin Genealogy: http://distantcousin.com > ICQ #8931206 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ruth Hoese [mailto:rhoese@interconnect.net] > Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 12:01 PM > To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: George & Myrtle Wise > > > The Adam Wise genealogy book has Maud Myrtle Wise b June 7, 1881 Brown Co, > KS, she is the daughter of George Andrew Wise and Anna Mariah Gafford. No > spouse is given for her and no place of death, just the birth. This > GeorgeAndrew Wise is the son of Rev. George Wise and Nancy Keys. He was > bornOct 25, 1842 in PA, married Jan 19 1873 Robinson Co. KS; died 27 July > 1915, Hill City, Graham, KS Anna Maria Gafford b Feb 22 1851, IN; died 29 > Oct 1912, Hill City, Graham, KS. Buried Nov 1, 1912, Cornelison Cmty, > Reserve, Brown KS. Her parents Joseph Charles and Dorcus Sherwood. > George Andrew Wise obit lists his children Ray, with whom he made his home, > Charley of Portland, Oregon; Lloyd of Coldon, Nebraska; John of Wichita > Falls, TX; and two daughters Mrs. Mary Stephenson of Brandon, CO and Mrs. > Maude Hartley of Lincoln, Nebraska. He had been and elder in the Christian > Church of Reserve until he moved to Hill City with his son. > This should open up a lot of good information for someone! Ruth Hoese > ----- Original Message ----- > From: The Wise Family <Macmhuirich@email.msn.com> > To: <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 9:56 AM > Subject: George & Myrtle Wise > > > > I was going through my files and found an announcement I copied from the > > Coffeyville [KS]Journal (Dec 26, 1896): > > > > "Mr. & Mrs. George Wise have issued invitations to the marriage of their > > daughter, Myrtle to Mr. Claude Welker, on Wednesday evening, December 30th > > at eight o'clock at the Baptist church. The reception will take place at > the > > residence of the groom from nine till eleven o'clock of that evening." > > > > Does anyone have any information on this Wise family? Please contact me > at > > the email address below. > > > > Happy Hunting, > > > > Frank W. Wise [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] > > > > Researching WISE, BLEVENS, BITNER, LASLEY, SANDS, NOBLETT, GRAY > > My wife, Nancy's lines are: STOFFER, WEBBER, BOYNTON, OWEN, LUTHY, FAGAN > > Sylvester J. Wise where are you? > > =================================== > > Visit our WISE family website at > http://geocities.com/heartland/fields/4363/ > > Distant Cousin Genealogy: http://distantcousin.com > > ICQ #8931206 > > > > > > > > >

Ruth, I was looking thru past email and came across the following, think they're the same George Adam?: From: JuanitaWS@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 3:10 PM To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Weis, George Adam GGGrandfather, George Adam Weis immigrated from Wurms, Hesse-Darmstadt in l850s with family, specifically, brothers. He appears in Ft.Wayne, In and then settles in Huntington, IN. I would like to know who his parents and siblings were and if there are other descendents of this family. He changed his name to Wise in l862. Thank you. Juanita Wise Santos Happy Hunting, Frank W. Wise [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] Researching WISE, BLEVENS, BITNER, LASLEY, SANDS, NOBLETT, GRAY My wife, Nancy's lines are: STOFFER, WEBBER, BOYNTON, OWEN, LUTHY, FAGAN Sylvester J. Wise where are you? =================================== Visit our WISE family website at http://geocities.com/heartland/fields/4363/ Distant Cousin Genealogy: http://distantcousin.com ICQ #8931206 -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Hoese [mailto:rhoese@interconnect.net] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 12:01 PM To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: George & Myrtle Wise The Adam Wise genealogy book has Maud Myrtle Wise b June 7, 1881 Brown Co, KS, she is the daughter of George Andrew Wise and Anna Mariah Gafford. No spouse is given for her and no place of death, just the birth. This GeorgeAndrew Wise is the son of Rev. George Wise and Nancy Keys. He was bornOct 25, 1842 in PA, married Jan 19 1873 Robinson Co. KS; died 27 July 1915, Hill City, Graham, KS Anna Maria Gafford b Feb 22 1851, IN; died 29 Oct 1912, Hill City, Graham, KS. Buried Nov 1, 1912, Cornelison Cmty, Reserve, Brown KS. Her parents Joseph Charles and Dorcus Sherwood. George Andrew Wise obit lists his children Ray, with whom he made his home, Charley of Portland, Oregon; Lloyd of Coldon, Nebraska; John of Wichita Falls, TX; and two daughters Mrs. Mary Stephenson of Brandon, CO and Mrs. Maude Hartley of Lincoln, Nebraska. He had been and elder in the Christian Church of Reserve until he moved to Hill City with his son. This should open up a lot of good information for someone! Ruth Hoese ----- Original Message ----- From: The Wise Family <Macmhuirich@email.msn.com> To: <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 9:56 AM Subject: George & Myrtle Wise > I was going through my files and found an announcement I copied from the > Coffeyville [KS]Journal (Dec 26, 1896): > > "Mr. & Mrs. George Wise have issued invitations to the marriage of their > daughter, Myrtle to Mr. Claude Welker, on Wednesday evening, December 30th > at eight o'clock at the Baptist church. The reception will take place at the > residence of the groom from nine till eleven o'clock of that evening." > > Does anyone have any information on this Wise family? Please contact me at > the email address below. > > Happy Hunting, > > Frank W. Wise [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] > > Researching WISE, BLEVENS, BITNER, LASLEY, SANDS, NOBLETT, GRAY > My wife, Nancy's lines are: STOFFER, WEBBER, BOYNTON, OWEN, LUTHY, FAGAN > Sylvester J. Wise where are you? > =================================== > Visit our WISE family website at http://geocities.com/heartland/fields/4363/ > Distant Cousin Genealogy: http://distantcousin.com > ICQ #8931206 > > >

What info is available on Rev. George Wise? Is this the one buried in Fairfield County, Ohio? Mitch Wise http://web.tusco.net/wisenct Ruth Hoese wrote: > > The Adam Wise genealogy book has Maud Myrtle Wise b June 7, 1881 Brown Co, > KS, she is the daughter of George Andrew Wise and Anna Mariah Gafford. No > spouse is given for her and no place of death, just the birth. This > GeorgeAndrew Wise is the son of Rev. George Wise and Nancy Keys. He was > bornOct 25, 1842 in PA, married Jan 19m 18723 Robinson Co. KS; died 27 July > 2925, Hill City, Graham, KS Anna Maria Gafford b Feb 22 1851, IN; died 29 > Oct 1912, Hill City, Graham, KS. Buried Nov 1, 1912, Cornelison Cmty, > Reserve, Brown KS. Her parents Joseph Charles and Dorcus Sherwood. > George Andrew Wise obit lists his children Ray, with whom he made his home, > Charley of Portland, Oregon; Lloyd of Coldon, Nebraska; John of Wichita > Falls, TX; and two daughters Mrs. Mary Stephenson of Brandon, CO and Mrs. > Maude Hartley of Lincoln, Nebraska. He had been and elder in the Christian > Church of Reserve until he moved to Hill City with his son. > This should open up a lot of good information for someone! Ruth Hoese > ----- Original Message ----- > From: The Wise Family <Macmhuirich@email.msn.com> > To: <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 9:56 AM > Subject: George & Myrtle Wise > > > I was going through my files and found an announcement I copied from the > > Coffeyville [KS]Journal (Dec 26, 1896): > > > > "Mr. & Mrs. George Wise have issued invitations to the marriage of their > > daughter, Myrtle to Mr. Claude Welker, on Wednesday evening, December 30th > > at eight o'clock at the Baptist church. The reception will take place at > the > > residence of the groom from nine till eleven o'clock of that evening." > > > > Does anyone have any information on this Wise family? Please contact me > at > > the email address below. > > > > Happy Hunting, > > > > Frank W. Wise [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] > > > > Researching WISE, BLEVENS, BITNER, LASLEY, SANDS, NOBLETT, GRAY > > My wife, Nancy's lines are: STOFFER, WEBBER, BOYNTON, OWEN, LUTHY, FAGAN > > Sylvester J. Wise where are you? > > =================================== > > Visit our WISE family website at > http://geocities.com/heartland/fields/4363/ > > Distant Cousin Genealogy: http://distantcousin.com > > ICQ #8931206 > > > > > >

I goofed on that first note, I should have paid more attention to spell checking. The marriage year is 1873, died in 1915, NOT 2925! Okay I should stick to my house building! Hope I caught all the errors. Ruth From: The Wise Family <Macmhuirich@email.msn.com> To: <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 9:56 AM Subject: George & Myrtle Wise > I was going through my files and found an announcement I copied from the > Coffeyville [KS]Journal (Dec 26, 1896): > > "Mr. & Mrs. George Wise have issued invitations to the marriage of their > daughter, Myrtle to Mr. Claude Welker, on Wednesday evening, December 30th > at eight o'clock at the Baptist church. The reception will take place at the > residence of the groom from nine till eleven o'clock of that evening." > > Does anyone have any information on this Wise family? Please contact me at > the email address below. > > Happy Hunting, > > Frank W. Wise [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] > > Researching WISE, BLEVENS, BITNER, LASLEY, SANDS, NOBLETT, GRAY > My wife, Nancy's lines are: STOFFER, WEBBER, BOYNTON, OWEN, LUTHY, FAGAN > Sylvester J. Wise where are you? > =================================== > Visit our WISE family website at http://geocities.com/heartland/fields/4363/ > Distant Cousin Genealogy: http://distantcousin.com > ICQ #8931206 > > >

The Adam Wise genealogy book has Maud Myrtle Wise b June 7, 1881 Brown Co, KS, she is the daughter of George Andrew Wise and Anna Mariah Gafford. No spouse is given for her and no place of death, just the birth. This GeorgeAndrew Wise is the son of Rev. George Wise and Nancy Keys. He was bornOct 25, 1842 in PA, married Jan 19m 18723 Robinson Co. KS; died 27 July 2925, Hill City, Graham, KS Anna Maria Gafford b Feb 22 1851, IN; died 29 Oct 1912, Hill City, Graham, KS. Buried Nov 1, 1912, Cornelison Cmty, Reserve, Brown KS. Her parents Joseph Charles and Dorcus Sherwood. George Andrew Wise obit lists his children Ray, with whom he made his home, Charley of Portland, Oregon; Lloyd of Coldon, Nebraska; John of Wichita Falls, TX; and two daughters Mrs. Mary Stephenson of Brandon, CO and Mrs. Maude Hartley of Lincoln, Nebraska. He had been and elder in the Christian Church of Reserve until he moved to Hill City with his son. This should open up a lot of good information for someone! Ruth Hoese ----- Original Message ----- From: The Wise Family <Macmhuirich@email.msn.com> To: <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 9:56 AM Subject: George & Myrtle Wise > I was going through my files and found an announcement I copied from the > Coffeyville [KS]Journal (Dec 26, 1896): > > "Mr. & Mrs. George Wise have issued invitations to the marriage of their > daughter, Myrtle to Mr. Claude Welker, on Wednesday evening, December 30th > at eight o'clock at the Baptist church. The reception will take place at the > residence of the groom from nine till eleven o'clock of that evening." > > Does anyone have any information on this Wise family? Please contact me at > the email address below. > > Happy Hunting, > > Frank W. Wise [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] > > Researching WISE, BLEVENS, BITNER, LASLEY, SANDS, NOBLETT, GRAY > My wife, Nancy's lines are: STOFFER, WEBBER, BOYNTON, OWEN, LUTHY, FAGAN > Sylvester J. Wise where are you? > =================================== > Visit our WISE family website at http://geocities.com/heartland/fields/4363/ > Distant Cousin Genealogy: http://distantcousin.com > ICQ #8931206 > > >

Hi Frank I have a little more that may be a connection. The Montgomery County 1880 census lists the following family: 100-102 Wise William W M 43 Saloon IL _ _ Cherryvale town Addie W F 22 Wife KS. IL. IL. Luther W M 22 son Clerk IL. IL. IL. Albert W M 20 son Clerk IL. IL.IL. John W M 14 son IL. IL. Edward W M 7 son KS. IL. IL. Myrtle E. W F 9/12 dau KS. IL.IL There is a notation which says: Wise Children - see William Seth 461-461 Seth William W M 39 Land Agent Ind. _ _ Independence Matilda W F 35 wife Ind. Ind. KY Dora Wise W F 6 s-dau KS. Pa. Ind. Carl Wise W M 3 s-son " " " Myrtle E. Wise at age 9 mos in 1880 would have been about 17 years old in 1896. The question is, could William Wise be the George in the announcement? If the census asked for first name and IF George was his middle name and IF he went by his middle name, it is possible that they are the same family. That may sound far-fetched, but many people use their middle names so exclusively that the only place the first name appears is on legal papers. My parents are a case in point. Both of them go by their middle names. In fact my mother's birth certificate has her listed as Ruth Neel, even though her entire given name is Sarah Ruth Neel. My dad's name on anything legal always ended up William Goble, but my wedding invitation, announcement listed me as the daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Ivan Goble. Anyway, there it is for what it is worth. BTW, there were several other Wise families in Montgomery Co at the time of the 1880 census but not our elusive Sylvester. Barbara Goble Volker -----Original Message----- From: The Wise Family <Macmhuirich@email.msn.com> To: WISE-L@rootsweb.com <WISE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, May 17, 1999 8:00 AM Subject: George & Myrtle Wise >I was going through my files and found an announcement I copied from the >Coffeyville [KS]Journal (Dec 26, 1896): > >"Mr. & Mrs. George Wise have issued invitations to the marriage of their >daughter, Myrtle to Mr. Claude Welker, on Wednesday evening, December 30th >at eight o'clock at the Baptist church. The reception will take place at the >residence of the groom from nine till eleven o'clock of that evening." > >Does anyone have any information on this Wise family? Please contact me at >the email address below. > >Happy Hunting, > >Frank W. Wise [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] > >Researching WISE, BLEVENS, BITNER, LASLEY, SANDS, NOBLETT, GRAY >My wife, Nancy's lines are: STOFFER, WEBBER, BOYNTON, OWEN, LUTHY, FAGAN >Sylvester J. Wise where are you? >=================================== >Visit our WISE family website at http://geocities.com/heartland/fields/4363/ >Distant Cousin Genealogy: http://distantcousin.com >ICQ #8931206 > >

I was going through my files and found an announcement I copied from the Coffeyville [KS]Journal (Dec 26, 1896): "Mr. & Mrs. George Wise have issued invitations to the marriage of their daughter, Myrtle to Mr. Claude Welker, on Wednesday evening, December 30th at eight o'clock at the Baptist church. The reception will take place at the residence of the groom from nine till eleven o'clock of that evening." Does anyone have any information on this Wise family? Please contact me at the email address below. Happy Hunting, Frank W. Wise [mailto:macmhuirich@email.msn.com] Researching WISE, BLEVENS, BITNER, LASLEY, SANDS, NOBLETT, GRAY My wife, Nancy's lines are: STOFFER, WEBBER, BOYNTON, OWEN, LUTHY, FAGAN Sylvester J. Wise where are you? =================================== Visit our WISE family website at http://geocities.com/heartland/fields/4363/ Distant Cousin Genealogy: http://distantcousin.com ICQ #8931206