A second cousin showed me a gown that was handed down to her in excellent condition that she thinks belonged to one of our Sauk Co forebears. There is a label sewn in that gives the seamstress' name as Emma L. Tuttle, and a date of 1875. Does anyone know who Emma L. Tuttle might be? Thanks, Leslie Hope Santa Monica Canyon

Thanks again for the great information, Kathy. I am looking so forward to the 'hunt'. :) You've given me a lot of good resources, most of which I didn't already have. I'll bookmark those sites. I appreciate it/ Thanks: Jodi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Waddell" <[email protected]> To: "Jodi Anderson Rusch" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [SAUK] Introduction? > The State Historical Society of Madison, I believe, has indexed census > records on microfilm. The libraries have unindexed census records. It is > time consuming but free. On-line, I'm pretty sure it costs. > > There are a lot of SSDI on line. I use http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > Immigration records are at the State Historical Society. Their site is: > http://www.shsw.wisc.edu/genealogy/index.html I don't know how much, if > any, is now on line but it is a pretty good source. > > A good and thorough search engine is : www.cyndislist.com . She had > probably the most complete list of links around. > > On the birth, marriage, death, and land.... Birth and death records were not > manditory until 1908 so if there is one filed prior to that time, you are > lucky. The earliest ones start around the late 1870's. Marriage records > start 1848 but are not complete either. Land goes back to the beginning and, > I think, is difficult to understand. I hate land records but will admit is > still a very good source as I have found many answers that I was unable to > find any where else hidden in the land records. > > Have fun!!!! > > Kathy

Hello: I don't know if it's proper to do introductions on this list, but I'm going to take a chance and post one anyhow. My name is Jodi and I presently live in Muscoda. In July, I will be returning to the town in which I grew up, Reedsburg. I'm new to genealogy. I recently attended a reunion (Malone/Therkelson) on my father's maternal side of the family. The wonderful research done by that family inspired me to do some of my own on my mother's side. Here are the main family, other surnames, and town info that I presently have. If this means anything to a list member, please let me know. Also, if this is not the proper posting procedure, tell me so that I post under the list guidelines, if any exist. Anyhow, I am a decendent of the George and Margaret/Mary Grauvogl (sometimes Grauvogel) family which lived in the Plain area at the turn of the century, and some thirty-odd years beyond. They owned and operated a bar in the area. The children who made it to adulthood were Elnora "Moody" Grauvogl, Estella Grauvogl (married Herbert Kraemer), and another younger sister who is still living. Margaret's maiden name was Conley (spelling?), and her mother's maiden name was Shanahan. All that I know of George is that he had several brothers, and that some of those decendents are still living in the surrounding counties. If anyone can offer help, or point to good resources, I'd sure appreciate it. Thank you: Jodi

Hello to all! Thanks to all of you who helped me out with my questions about a week ago. Our Sprint phone lines have been messed up for over a week and I have been unable to get connected. (A hiway worker mowed over a huge Sprint box full of cables!) They finally have it all working right again--- I hope. Now I can get on with my research, but wanted to thank everyone for their help in case any emails got lost. Karen Pickett Researching my Cain, Brazzel, Boettcher, Keenan, Brandt families http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brandt/index.html _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

I copied the marriage announcements in the Baraboo Republic, Jan 8, 1861 and thought these may be of interest to some. There is nothing more than what I'm writing here. The marriages took place in Sauk Co., WI in late December, 1860. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Married. Dec. 23rd in the M.E. Church in Baraboo by Rev. W. H. Thomson; Mr. Edward L. Ryan and Miss Anna Maria Weirich, daughter if Rev. C. E. Weirich of the West Wis. Conference; all of Baraboo, Wis. In Greenfield, on the 24th ult., by G. W. Rucker, Esq, Mr. B. F. Yoxtheimer, to Miss Mary C. Loos. On the 25th ult., at the residence of the bride's father, by Rev. S. P. Kezerta, Mr. James L. Flynt and Miss Caroline A. C. Lippitt, all of Baraboo. On the 25th ult., by Rev. Rufus Fancher, Mr. Elihu Knettle and Miss Mary Ann Coburn, all of M*rrinae, Sauk Co. Wis. Also, at the same time and place, by the same, Mr. Lyman C. Messenger of Baraboo, and Miss Caroline Knettle, of Greenfield, Sauk Co., Wisconsin. On Tuesday, Dec. 25th, 1860, by Rev. D. T. Noyes, Mr. Phillip Augustus Thomas to Miss Martha Ingraham Kelly, all of Troy, Sauk County. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Philip A. Thomas was the step-son of Orison Thomas and Isabella P. Brown Thomas of the village of Cassell, Troy Twp., Sauk Co. They lived for almost 50 years (1851-1997) in the house on Cassell Rd. that is now know as the C. H. Kleinert house. Martha I. Kelley was the daughter of John Kelley, seaman, of Cassell, and his 1st wife, Mary Crozier Kelley who died in Co., Down, Ireland. Carole Hammond, Portland, OR

I just read about the Butterfields 1880 -- What is this? My Grandmother's maiden name was Butterfield, parents names were Geo and Vira. I can't get any further back than this. I noticed there were at least 365 pages. I would be very interested in learning more about this book. Dawn Heart

Looking for information on the Gollmar Bell Ringer Co circa 1880. Does anyone know which of the Gollmar's had this company? I know that in 1890 Fred and BP were listed as furniture dealers, upholsterers, undertakers and special agents for bicycles and novelties. And that Charles was a machinist and Edward T and Jacob were blacksmiths and dealers in agricultural implements. So am not sure who would have the Bell Ringer Co.

This is from Butterfield's 1880, History of Sauk County, page 365: Hops, and the Panic of 1868 Sauk is the banner hop-raising county of Wisconsin, and, in fact, of the Northwest. Harvey Canfield, Benjamin Colton, and Mr. Cottington are believed to have been the pioneers in the business in the county. Producers then thought themselves fortunate if they obtained 7 cents per pound for their crop, after hauling it to Beaver Dam, which, in early times, was the nearest market. About 1863, owing to an increased demand for hops, the price advanced to such an unusual figure that farmers everywhere were induced to devote a portion of their lands to the cultivation of the article. For the next four years, notwithstanding the increased acreage and supply, there was no falling-off in prices; on the contrary, hops advanced steadily, and in 1865, reached the extraordinary figures of 50, 55 and even 60 cents per pound, with fair prospects of going still higher. By this time, the cultivation of other farm products was almost entirely abandoned. Preparations had been made throughout t! he county to plant almost every available acre of tillable land into hops. Producers purchased from outside sources the necessary small grains required for feed and flour, and turned their undivided attention to hop-raising. The excitement ran high. Speculators, with pocketfuls of money, were plenty, and anxious to buy. Hundreds of farmers, with but very few acres of land, who had hitherto been considered poor, and in fact were poor, suddenly became reputably rich. A man needed no higher endorsement that to have it said of him, "He has a hop-yard." His credit was good at any of the mercantile establishments in the villages where he did his trading. "I'll pay when I sell my hops," was sufficient guarantee for almost unlimited credit. It was a day of liberal dealings, not of sharp bargains, as now. The man with a hop-yard never stopped to say "It's too high; I'll give you so much," and he seldom inquired the price of an article he sought to purchase. It went on the books, an! d much depended upon the conscientiousness and fair-dealing qualities of the merchant. Farmers' daughters wore silks and attended universities; sons went to college, clothed in broadcloth, and the airs of opulence. There were evidences of wealth on every hand, and not without cause. A great many men became comparatively wealthy. The farmers in a radius of ten miles who had made $10,000 in three years, could not be enumerated upon the fingers twice touched. Enormous hop-houses of fantastic shapes were built; fine blood horses purchased; family carriages, phaetons and fancy harness found ready sale - "If you'll wait till my hops get ripe;" though toward the latter part of the period of excitement the cash was paid in most cases, and a great many old accounts were squared. But the end came, finally, and at a very inopportune time, when the acreage had been largely increased. Prices fell, and with a crash, too. Most of the crop of 1867 was held for higher figures; 30 and 35 cent! s was not enough. "They'll be worth more next year," said the hop-grower; but his prophecy was shorn of its wisdom the following season, when the bottom of the market dropped completely out, and hops became a drug, commercially, worth from 3 to 5 cents, with but few buyers. The old crops on hand were, in many instances, more than a dead loss; the pickers had been paid half the value of a pound of hops per box at the date of picking, which, a year later, amounted to more than the market price, and about the only profit left the producer, was contained in the conversion of his hop-poles into stovewood. One good result, however, of this hop excitement, was the substantial farm improvements made during its existence. The large and costly hop-houses now make good barns. Hop-raising, however, was not entirely abandoned after the panic; some farmers still continue to grow them quite extensively, and to some degree of profit.

Does anyone have any knowledge of the "hops crash" of about 1868, either in WI. or the east coast? Any info would be much appreciated. Diane

Hops were grown over much of the state, however there was a high concentration in the Sauk county area. http://www.wpt.org/barns/apps.html see this article about barns and how they were designed to be used In the area south of Baraboo hop growing became a fad more than anything else and we had acres and acres of hops for the beer industry at one time. And you can find those structures around as well so those kind of specialized barns developed during that transition time and what is so fascinating about history and these rural buildings is that many of these buildings remain as symbols to tell us what it was like during that time. and with photos... http://www1.uwex.edu/ces/pubs/pdf/G3660_2.PDF and... from Adams county 1881 history http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adams6/adhist.html . About 50,000 acres in the county are under cultivation--the crops being corn, wheat, rye and hops, in the order of enumeration. The county suffered greatly by depression in hops in 1868, and has never fully rallied from the financial losses. also... from a history of Sauk county http://www.saukcounty.com/history.htm In 1868 an enterprising miller named Dean built a mechanical hop picker. The picker was an innovation that greatly reduced manpower necessary to the harvesting of hops. The picker proved successful. Two were built, unfortunately the hop market failed as did many farmers and the second machine was never used. H.H. Hulbert a machinist from Mauston, fine-tuned the original picker and stood by to monitor its efficiency. lastly from the history of hops http://www.hopsteiner.com/history6.html Farther to the northwest Sauk County, around Kilbourn City, became a major hop culture center. This was a period in which hop prices soared. By 1867 the price was 58 cents per pound and 27,000 bales of 200 lb. each were produced in Wisconsin's Sauk County alone. That year 15,000 young men and women were needed to harvest the crop, all the work, including picking the cones from the vines, being done by hand. Special trains would bring thousands from Milwaukee to Kilbourn (now Wisconsin Dells) for the harvest. Every evening these was dancing in the barns of the hop farms as fiddlers played and others added the beat. The term hop, meaning social dance, owes its origin to those lively stomps. But over-production precipitated a crash in the market, to just 4 cents per pound. Many growers and dealers lost everything. Still, Wisconsin produced 4,630,155 pounds in 1869. Then powdery mildew and aphids overran the Wisconsin yards, and by 1889 hop growing in Wisconsin and the Midwest was insignificant. [email protected] wrote: > Karen and list members, > > I don't know where the hops fields were located, but would like information > on the hops crash in the early 1860s. My ggggrandparents, William Baron and > Mary Jane <unknown> brought their family to Sauk Co. after the crash. > > Susan > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi to all, Thanks for all your help with my Sac/Sauk and hops questions! You have all be so generous! The names I am looking for in Sauk are: Jurn Christoph Boettcher/Bottcher Maria Boettcher Heinrich Boettcher William Boettcher Johann Boettcher Christ Boettcher Christoph and Maria brought their boys to America in 1864 from Bornsen, Hanover Germany and came directly to Wisconsin. They stayed there for about 5 years then moved onto Washington Co., Kansas. Family story is that they worked the hops fields in Wisconsin, so that is the reason for my question about the hops. Thanks for all your help, Karen _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Hello everyone! I am researching the surname WESTPHAL in Sauk County (Baraboo, Lake Delton areas), and have been told that my grandfather, Roy Westphal, owned and operated the Riverside Tavern in Baraboo in the late 1930s - early 1940s. I am looking for info on the tavern, and would like to know if anyone has any info that may be helpful to me. The Riverside Tavern was located at 109 Walnut Street, Baraboo... I am especially interested in locating old pictures of the tavern, and possibly located a Baraboo or Sauk County business / liquor license. Does anyone know where this info might be found? Any input would be GREATLY appreciated. Kindest Regards, Rob Westphal (California) [email protected] **OTHER NAMES / INFO I AM RESEARCHING IN SAUK COUNTY: Louis LISS (Owned salvage company in Baraboo, 1930s-40s) Zachary ONIKUL (Owned salvage company in Baraboo, 1930s-1940s) Myrtle BRILLIANT Babe TRUE HANSON (Baraboo, worked for CNW railroad) Leonard BRIGGS (Owned Riverside Tavern prior to Roy Westphal)

Karen and list members, I don't know where the hops fields were located, but would like information on the hops crash in the early 1860s. My ggggrandparents, William Baron and Mary Jane <unknown> brought their family to Sauk Co. after the crash. Susan

Hi, I am new to this list as I just found the county where my relatives settled in Wisconsin. The obit says Sac Co. WI but I am assuming it is Sauk Co., WI. Can anyone tell me if this is correct. (The obit is from 1893 that says Sac Co.) Also, does anyone know where the hops fields were located in Sauk Co back in the 1860's? Thanks for your help, Karen _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

The weather has been so nice on the weekends that I have been copying and copying. Just to let everyone know that this fall when I can't copy anymore, these are the cemeteries, so far, that I will have on-line ( http://www.interment.net/us/wi/sauk.htm ) Rock Springs Cemetery Lime Ridge Cemetery Oak Hill Cemetery, North Freedom Oak Hill Cemetery, Merrimac Stones Pocket Cemetery, Sumpter Denzer Cemetery Trinity Lutheran Cemetery, Lime Ridge St. Boniface Catholic Cemetery, Lime Ridge St. Joseph Catholic Cemetery, Baraboo Calvary Catholic Cemetery, Ironton Karstetter Family Cemetery, LaValle Yankee Street Cemetery, Prairie du Sac Meisel Family Cemetery, Merrimac Twp Cole Cemetery, Reedsburg Twp Also, I've just submitted Westfield German Methodist Church in Westfield Township for Ross Walker, thanks to his hard work. And I have submitted Pine Hill Cemetery, Rock Springs and St. John's German Evangelical Lutheran Church Cemetery, Merrimac. They should be online in the next couple of weeks. I'll keep you posted. Any questions, please contact me. Kathy Waddell

This site will help you locate WI land owned by ancestors if you know the Township/Range/Section coordinates (from BLM or Land Records): http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/at/et/geo/data/cty_twp_indexes/twp_indexes.htm I have been looking for websites that would convert T/R/S coordinates into geographic localities for other states, so if you know of any please post them to the list. Roberta Researching Bennett & Estes in Rock & Sauk Co, Wi. and Michigan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

I do Genealogical & Historical Research of ANY Surname. Physical Research of records not on the Internet. Courthouse records, Cemeteries, Churches, etc. Anywhere your ANCESTOR may have resided. I ALSO take photos of Gravestones, family homes, etc. if you want them. NATIVE AMERICAN Research as well. ~ If you wish me to "DIG" for you, send me an e-mail authorizing me to do so, along with ALL the info you have on said Ancestor & the list of QUESTIONS you need ANSWERED. Thanks!

Besides being a township in Sauk County, Excelsior is also a village in Richland County. It is in Richwood township. So where you go for records would depend upon which Excelsior you want to look at. Richwood township is on the other side of Richland county, away from Sauk, so it is doubtful that it was ever part of Sauk County. Thomas Koch ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:43 AM Subject: [SAUK] Excelsior > > Has Excelsior always been in Richland County? If not, was it part of Sauk > County in 1870? Which county would I go to for 1870 records? > > Thanks in advance, > > Susan > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Excelsior is in Sauk County, It is a township and is between Freedom and Reedsburg. Still there and has been since the beginning of Sauk County.

Has Excelsior always been in Richland County? If not, was it part of Sauk County in 1870? Which county would I go to for 1870 records? Thanks in advance, Susan