Contracted date= marriage date or recorded date Thank you for your replies Pat and Bill. But now I am still confused! Haha. I think I have found that the later date should be the wedding date on this type of cert, since there are only 2 dates, but I am not certain. I have seen some with 3 dates, application date, marriage date, and the return and recorded date. It appears to me that the marriage date is the actual contract date, but any additional input would be appreciated. Maybe Kathy from Sauk Co Hist Society ? It would seem to me that the marriage Time might be important but not the time of when it is returned.? Thank you for your help. Murray in AZ

Am a Baraboo native, looking for more information on my mothers lines HASELTINE, LeSUER, BRIGGS, WAKEFIELD, HOAG, TEMPLE, PELTON to name a few. She was a Wakefield, Dad's sister m. Roger Bass from Reedsburg area. Kathy Parkinson

Hi, I have a marriage certificate that lists the following: License # ______ Date__ Nov 24, 1902 Time when marriage was "contracted"___Dec. 4, 1902 Then at the bottom, the clergyman signed it with a date of fourth day of December, AD 1902 stating it was a true return of the facts, which might indicate that this was afterwards, and could be a recorded date. My question is this. Which is the marriage date? Is the earlier date in Nov. when the License was applied for, and the later date being the actual marriage date? I am basing this on the premise that since there is a question of TIME, I am assuming that this would be the Time that the marriage was performed "contracted?" . Otherwise, what is this question of Time for? Following this, the question of place, county, etc the marriage was "contracted", leaving little doubt in my mind that the term "contracted" is herein used in the same manner as 'solemnized', but I would like to get this confirmed from someone please? Thank you, Murray in AZ

I'm the person looking for Zangl or Zangle in Sauk County. Jeanne did give me some cemetery inscriptions and I am looking into those. My grandfather Johann Zangl was married in Wisconsin to Katherina ----something like Fischinger---and probably 3 of their children were born there 1875-1881. However, they all survived to settle in South Dakota so I know of no direct connections that died in Wisconsin. However, sometimes I have found things by looking at parallel lines--maybe this time also. The items that would help me the most would be Johann Zangl's marriage to Katherina, about 1874, and birth of children John Zangl in 1875, Robert Zangl in 1877, and Barbara Zangl in 1881.. Thanks for your interest. Neva

-----Original Message----- From: MARJORIE BEDNAREK <Marjorie-Jo@worldnet.att.net> >I don't have any Zangles' on my line, but do have Youngs from Sauk County. >There are some Engles connected to the Page Family who moved from Sauk Co. >to Spink County, SD and that is the closest I can come to Zangle. Margie...I am CC for Davison County, SD... South Dakota State has all birth records with birth dates over 100 years on-line. Try this site...good luck: Andie <bunnyden@sunrisenet.com> <http://www.state.sd.us/doh/vitalrec/birthrecords/index.cfm>

Thanks Margie, The Page's I'm researching came first from Vermont. Joy

Hi Joy, Just a note to say that I am researching the family of Salon and Lydia (Young) Page from NY to Sauk Co. to Spink Co., SD about 1880. Their children were: Hosea, Currier and Jane who married to a Gordon. At this point I can't connect to your page family, but one never knows when something may come up. Good luck with your search. Sincerely, Margie Bednarek, White Bear Lake, MN -----Original Message----- From: JoyCara@aol.com <JoyCara@aol.com> To: WISAUK-L@rootsweb.com <WISAUK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, June 18, 1999 9:18 PM Subject: [WISAUK-L] Re: Page >Hello, > >Searching James and Lestina (Wood) Page and their children, Washington, >Samantha, William, Lestina (my ggreat-grandmother), Elmira, Charles and Maria. > >Lestina and Elmira were twins. > >Know James and Lestina Page along with Charles, Maria and Lestina & her >husband John Hartmann moved to Kansas in abt 1871. If you have any info, >will share. > >Joy > >

I sent this once and it came back to me. Lord knows what I did! So don't feel bad about the mix up. Read the message below this one IF you get it and it does not come back to me, ha ha, Margie in Minnesota -----Original Message----- From: Bednareks' <marjorie-jo@worldnet.att.net> To: WISAUK-L@rootsweb.com <WISAUK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, June 18, 1999 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISAUK-L] Re: ????? confused >Thanks Jeanie, you had the name Fleichinger or something similar hooked on >your message as well. I know of someone with a name like that who is >searching for Pages and is a descendant of Lydia (Young) Page and her >husband Salon Page. The Engle married into that Page family. I believe it >was a Peter Engle. Later, Margie Bednarek, White Bear Lake, MN >-----Original Message----- >From: Jcollects@aol.com <Jcollects@aol.com> >To: WISAUK-L@rootsweb.com <WISAUK-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Friday, June 18, 1999 4:04 PM >Subject: Re: [WISAUK-L] Re: ????? confused > > >>And you know what? I'm confused, too. A lady sent a request for >information >>on her ZANGLE line, then when I answered I sent it to the rootsweb site - >>therein lies the confusion. Anyway, I like the idea that maybe the name >>could be Engles, as her family was in South Dakota and that's where she is >>lost in time. >> >>Thanks for the info. I'm forwarding it on to her. >> >>Jeanne Jessie >> >> >

Thanks Jeanie, you had the name Fleichinger or something similar hooked on your message as well. I know of someone with a name like that who is searching for Pages and is a descendant of Lydia (Young) Page and her husband Salon Page. The Engle married into that Page family. I believe it was a Peter Engle. Later, Margie Bednarek, White Bear Lake, MN -----Original Message----- From: Jcollects@aol.com <Jcollects@aol.com> To: WISAUK-L@rootsweb.com <WISAUK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, June 18, 1999 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISAUK-L] Re: ????? confused >And you know what? I'm confused, too. A lady sent a request for information >on her ZANGLE line, then when I answered I sent it to the rootsweb site - >therein lies the confusion. Anyway, I like the idea that maybe the name >could be Engles, as her family was in South Dakota and that's where she is >lost in time. > >Thanks for the info. I'm forwarding it on to her. > >Jeanne Jessie > >

Hello, Searching James and Lestina (Wood) Page and their children, Washington, Samantha, William, Lestina (my ggreat-grandmother), Elmira, Charles and Maria. Lestina and Elmira were twins. Know James and Lestina Page along with Charles, Maria and Lestina & her husband John Hartmann moved to Kansas in abt 1871. If you have any info, will share. Joy

And you know what? I'm confused, too. A lady sent a request for information on her ZANGLE line, then when I answered I sent it to the rootsweb site - therein lies the confusion. Anyway, I like the idea that maybe the name could be Engles, as her family was in South Dakota and that's where she is lost in time. Thanks for the info. I'm forwarding it on to her. Jeanne Jessie

I don't have any Zangles' on my line, but do have Youngs from Sauk County. There are some Engles connected to the Page Family who moved from Sauk Co. to Spink County, SD and that is the closest I can come to Zangle. Thanks, Margie Bednarek, White Bear Lake, MN -----Original Message----- From: Jcollects@aol.com <Jcollects@aol.com> To: WISAUK-L@rootsweb.com <WISAUK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, June 17, 1999 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISAUK-L] QExpress for Sauk Co., Wisconsin ( ZANGL (ZANGLE)FISCHINGER (... >From the 1985 Cemetery Inscriptions of Sauk County, Wisconsin, Volume 6 book, >page 125. >Row 11 of St. John's Roman Catholic Cemetery, Section 12, T8N, R3E, Township >of spring Green, County of Sauk, State of Wisconsin. > >ZANGL: Katherine (Yonker) Nov. 16, 1847 - Mar. 27, 1910 - Wife of Michael - >(Dau. of George and Barbara Yonker) > >YONKER: Lena 1874 - 1953 - Dau. > >ZANGL: John (Mar. 1) 1884 - (Oct. 25) 1965 - Son (Son and Dau. of Michael > and Katharine Yonker Zangl) > Mary (Dec. 11) 1885 - (Aug. 12) 1971 - Dau. > >Hope this helps you. Jeanne Jessie, Norco, CA > >

Well thanks for this, but I don't have any Zangl families in my genealogy??? I have Young families from Sauk county though, and maybe that "Z" got in the way of something. I appreciate the thought. Sincerely, Margie Bednarek, White Bear Lake, MN -----Original Message----- From: Jcollects@aol.com <Jcollects@aol.com> To: WISAUK-L@rootsweb.com <WISAUK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, June 17, 1999 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISAUK-L] QExpress for Sauk Co., Wisconsin ( ZANGL (ZANGLE)FISCHINGER (... >From the 1985 Cemetery Inscriptions of Sauk County, Wisconsin, Volume 6 book, >page 125. >Row 11 of St. John's Roman Catholic Cemetery, Section 12, T8N, R3E, Township >of spring Green, County of Sauk, State of Wisconsin. > >ZANGL: Katherine (Yonker) Nov. 16, 1847 - Mar. 27, 1910 - Wife of Michael - >(Dau. of George and Barbara Yonker) > >YONKER: Lena 1874 - 1953 - Dau. > >ZANGL: John (Mar. 1) 1884 - (Oct. 25) 1965 - Son (Son and Dau. of Michael > and Katharine Yonker Zangl) > Mary (Dec. 11) 1885 - (Aug. 12) 1971 - Dau. > >Hope this helps you. Jeanne Jessie, Norco, CA > >

Surnames: ZANGL (ZANGLE) FISCHINGER (FISHINGER) Submitter: Neva Logan (nevaeva@c2on.net) Date: 17 Jun 1999 I see Zangl and Zangle all over Wisconsin but I get no response to my queries. My grandfather married my grandmother in Wisconsin, perhaps Sulk county, some of their children were born there. Grandfather was there for l0 years, then moved on to South Dakota where he settled. John (Johann) Zangl (Zangle) born February 16 1843 in Untergrafenried, Germany, came to the States about 1871, went to Wisconsin. Married Katherina Fischinger in Wisconsin. Children John, Robert and Barbara were probably born in Wisconsin. Probably settled in Sauk county, around Green Spring. They left for South Dakota in about 1881. I have ordered the 1880 census but it has not arrived yet. Any help from anyone? Thanks. Neva Jean Zangle Logan

>From the 1985 Cemetery Inscriptions of Sauk County, Wisconsin, Volume 6 book, page 125. Row 11 of St. John's Roman Catholic Cemetery, Section 12, T8N, R3E, Township of spring Green, County of Sauk, State of Wisconsin. ZANGL: Katherine (Yonker) Nov. 16, 1847 - Mar. 27, 1910 - Wife of Michael - (Dau. of George and Barbara Yonker) YONKER: Lena 1874 - 1953 - Dau. ZANGL: John (Mar. 1) 1884 - (Oct. 25) 1965 - Son (Son and Dau. of Michael and Katharine Yonker Zangl) Mary (Dec. 11) 1885 - (Aug. 12) 1971 - Dau. Hope this helps you. Jeanne Jessie, Norco, CA

Hello fellow researchers and cousins, and genealogists, My cousin has written a book including 900 surnames dating back to c.1800 and the majority in Sauk Co. I thought I would post a few of the names here in case someone would like a copy. She is only charging for the printer's cost, and not her cost. There will be many photos, and I think well worth the price. The book will be back from the printer this month, and she will send them out postage paid at a price of $30.00. Following is just a few of the surnames included. Schaefer, Weyand, Mason, Sinda, Koeppel, Gordon, Hitchcock, Herrin, Anderson, Ahrens, Pate, Russel,Maggy, Shupe, Sherwood, Gamo, Antal, Williams, Brendle, Saeger, Maynes, Rozell, Wickman, Patten, Peterson, Gillum, Clinto, Sudderth, Larsen, Cahoon, Wizenick, Luebke, Hirschinger, Arndt, Denman, Carpenter, Schult, Petoski, Alberti, O'hearn, Wing, Fuchs, Fox, Drake, Meyer, Klagas, Diehl, Knuth, Gray, Rawson, Kleienert, Petzke, Lins, Esser, Ladd, Knuckles, Brewer, Baker, Garcia, Taylor, Merkel, Yurowski, Dickerson, Schumann, Scopp, Alt, Bethel, Lawler, Dietzman, Obright, Lindsay, Arendee, Summers, Botello, Hazard, Houston, Killian, Mckeoun, Best, Licht, Marazek, Kwiecinski, Haugen, Eiley, Ferron, Heller, McNamara, Austvolt, Howard, Geer, Chevier, King, Moe, Woolworth, Marble, Meyers, Groen, Bylsma, Baird, Gest, McDade, Schellel, Staffeld, Mathison, Severson, McDiarmid, Jackson, Polyak, Spent, Faiferlich, Parker, Wagner, Montieth, West, Claerbout, McDonnell, Krulish, Erickson, Drysdale, Burger, Anyone interested please contact me or her directly. Her Email is cschilder@juno.com or just mail your payment to her at: Catherine (Niemeyer) Schilder 1017 Pearl St. Box 8 Faulkton, SD 57438-0008 If she has many orders right away, it may change the price, as it is based on a certain number, but she has not figured her costs into it at all! It is a wonderful bargain, and should prove to be a great resource for many who are just beginning their research also. Some of the records in it include naturalization papers, German birth/death records, etc. Have a great day! Regards, Murray Looper descendant of Herman NIEMEYER and Agusta WIENKE

My cousin has written a book including 900 surnames dating back to c.1800 and the majority in Sauk Co. I thought I would post a few of the names here in case someone would like a copy. She is only charging for the printer's cost, and not her cost. There will be many photos, and I think well worth the price. The book will be back from the printer this month, and she will send them out postage paid at a price of $30.00. Anyone interested please contact me or her directly. Her Email is cschilder@juno.com or just mail your payment to her at: Catherine (Niemeyer) Schilder 1017 Pearl St. Box 8 Faulkton, SD 57438-0008 If she has many orders right away, it may change the price, as it is based on a certain number, but she has not figured her costs into it at all! It is a wonderful bargain, and should prove to be a great resource for many who are just beginning their research also. Some of the records in it include naturalization papers, German birth/death records, etc. Have a great day! Regards, Murray Looper descendant of Herman NIEMEYER and Agusta WIENKE LOOPER, LUPER, STAPLES, KEAN, PRATHER, VAN_NATTA, HOLMES, HOGE, HUME, WHITE, DE_ST_JULIEN, BULLOCK, LONG, MCKINNEY, PERSELL, PURCELL, VAN_DE_WETERING, DEN_EXTER, KROES, SMITS, VAN_DER_LOOS, STREEP, NIEMEYER, SCHWENKER, WIENKE, LEITZGIRD, FUCHS, MEYER, SCHMIDT, PATTERSON, VAN DORN, MCLEAN, FISCHER, JENNER, BAKER, GOSNEY, YELTON, GRIFFITH, SEXTON, BRAGG, HUTCHISON, SLAGLE, SULLINS, KOGER, PREVOE, PERRIN, KOTHE, MCFARLAND, VAUGHAN MILLER, BARKER, ROBEY, SMITH, LUEBKE,

Murray wrote: > Can someone please tell me if there is online access to the 1900 > (and maybe 1910?) census for Sauk Co and surrounding counties? Murray, You can obtain census film at most public libraries through interlibrary loan. There may or may not be fees-- contact your library to find out how it works for you. The genealogical resources of the Mormon church, including census film, are also available locally at their family history centers (FHC). Check your phonebook for the nearest Mormon church (LDS) to find out where a FHC is near you. They're great resources for all sorts of things. Hope this helps, Kathy Lenerz

Can someone please tell me if there is online access to the 1900 (and maybe 1910?) census for Sauk Co and surrounding counties? Even abstracts would be a start... Thank you, Murray in AZ

Hi Sue, It could be the abbreviation for "Royal Neighbors of America", which is a fraternal insurance company that was strong throughout the midwest. Good luck,.............Larry in Seattle Eireniko@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > > I'm stumped on this. In my Great Grandmother's obit it says "Member of > R.N.A." > > Does anyone know what these letters stand for? > > Thanks for any help. > > Sue > > ==== WISAUK Mailing List ==== > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wisauk