This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DFC.2ACE/2282 Message Board Post: Confusion once again... the 1999 obit for Dorothy Kisting lists her mother has Helen Groshek the 2002 obit for Ben P Golomski lists mother Helen also. The problem is one as Victor being the father the other as John being the father of both which one is Dorothy and Ben P.s dad? John or Victor Also, which John? the one that passed in 1953 or 1967?? Thanks for the unscramble Susan