This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DFC.2ACE/157.1 Message Board Post: I suspect there may be a relation to Philander Stephens (1785) who had a son Alvah. This family went to La Chute, and Chatham, Quebec. A jump to Michigan or new York is not unheard of for the families that moved into that area. Alvah and Philander are very recuring names in this family. DAnny