This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DFC.2ACE/1743 Message Board Post: Reply to [email protected] In the book Land and Lumber: A History of Portage County, there is only one reference to surname, pg 123 Herbert ORR: What of the families and friends of Harold RETZKE and Herbert ORR? They were both Marines on duty at the American embassy in Peking when the Japanese seized the city in Dec 1941. They were captured and spent the entire war in prison camps. They came home safely, but not until the fall of 1945. I am not related to nor have any additional information on these surnames. R/S MAK http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiportag ++++++++++++++ Could you please check your surname index for a William Manley Orr and/or Thomas Orr. Thank You. [email protected]